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    I will used it for burning movies off my hdd camcorder and converting files to dvd from torrents. I will not be playing games on it...I may try one here and there but for the most part it's not a gaming laptop.


    Mobile Technology: Centrino
    Product Type: Notebook
    Processor & Chipset
    Processor Manufacturer: Intel
    Processor Type: Core 2 Duo
    Processor Model: T6500
    Processor Speed: 2.1GHz
    Processor Core: Dual-core
    Processor Technology: Enhanced SpeedStep Technology
    Virtualization Technology
    EM64T
    Bus Speed: 800MHz
    L2 Cache: 2MB
    Chipset Manufacturer: Intel
    Chipset Model: PM45 Express
    Memory
    Standard Memory: 4GB
    Maximum Memory: 8GB
    Memory Technology: DDR2 SDRAM
    Memory Standard: DDR2-800/PC2-6400
    Number of Total Memory Slots: 2
    Memory Card Reader: Yes
    Memory Card Support: Secure Digital (SD) Card
    Memory Stick PRO Duo
    Memory Stick PRO
    Storage
    Hard Drive Capacity: 320GB
    Hard Drive Interface: Serial ATA
    Hard Drive RPM: 7200
    Solid State Drive Capacity: Not Included
    Solid State Drive Interface: Not Applicable
    Optical Drive Type: BD-Reader/DVD-Writer
    Optical Media Support: BD-ROM/DVD-RAM/±R/±RW
    Dual-Layer Media Support: Yes
    Display & Graphics
    Screen Size: 16.4"
    Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
    Display Screen Technology: XBRITE-ECO
    Widescreen: Yes
    Display Resolution: 1600 x 900
    Graphics Controller Manufacturer: ATi
    Graphics Controller Model: Mobility Radeon HD 4650
    Graphics Memory Capacity: 1GB
    Graphics Memory Accessibility: Semi-shared
    Network & Communication
    Network Technology: Wi-Fi
    Gigabit Ethernet
    Bluetooth
    Network Standard: IEEE 802.11n
    IEEE 802.3ab
    Bluetooth 2.1
    Wi-Fi Manufacturer: Intel
    Wi-Fi Model: WiFi Link 5100AGN
    Modem: Yes
    I/O Expansions
    Expansion Slot Type: ExpressCard/34
    Input Devices
    Keyboard Size: Standard Size
    Pointing Device Type: TouchPad
    Interfaces/Ports
    Interfaces/Ports: 3 x 4-pin Type A USB 2.0 - USB
    1 x HDMI Digital Audio/Video
    1 x RJ-11 Modem
    1 x DC Power Input
    1 x 4-pin IEEE 1394 - i.Link
    1 x Mini-phone Headphone
    1 x 15-pin HD-15 VGA
    1 x Mini-phone Microphone
    1 x RJ-45 Network
    Built-in Devices
    Camera: Yes

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    These are the spec for the laptop I'm currently using

    Processor and Memory
    Processor Brand: Intel
    Processor Class: Core 2 Duo T5450
    Processor Speed: 1.67 GHz
    Installed Memory: 3 GB
    Memory Technology: DDR2 SDRAM
    System Memory Configuration: 1 x 1 GB + 1 x 2 GB
    Cache Size: 2 MB
    Processor: Core 2 Duo
    Processor Number: T5450
    Storage
    Hard Drive Capacity: 250 GB
    Included Drives: DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM
    Hard Drive Type: Portable
    Card Reader Type: 5 in 1 card reader
    Supported Flash Memory Cards: SD Memory Card, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMediaCard, XD-Picture Card
    CD Write Speed: 24 X
    CD Rewrite Speed: 16 X
    CD Read Speed: 24 X
    DVD Write Speed: 8x (DVD±R), 2x (DVD-R DL), 2.4x (DVD+R DL)
    Display and Graphics
    Display Size: 15.4 in.
    Display Type: TFT active matrix
    Graphics Processor: Intel GMA X3100
    Resolution: 1280 x 800 pixels
    Display Resolution Standard: WXGA
    Battery
    Battery Type: Lithium ion
    Communications and Networking
    Modem Speed: 56 Kbps
    Software
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
    Connectors
    Interface Provided: VGA, Phone line, Ethernet, Headphone

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    I honestly don't know how much of a difference you'll see between the two laptops.

    You're probably better off just upgrading the ram you have in the current.

    Gaming is expensive, especially in laptop form. So you either need a powerful laptop for gaming, or it's better not even to go that route. The newer one will be excellent in that regard, but that's by far the biggest difference you'll see in terms of real world application.

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    The CPU is too slow, anything that involves video is CPU intensive, getting a better CPU will make converting videos a lot faster.

    Also the hard drive could be bigger.

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    The CPU is too slow, anything that involves video is CPU intensive, getting a better CPU will make converting videos a lot faster.

    Also the hard drive could be bigger.
    In that regard would a quad core automatically mean better?

    I'm getting a new laptop because my girlfriend wants a laptop for school, So I get a new laptop and she gets the current one. I know her home pc is less than a year old and I look at it real fast the other day and saw it was a quad core but I don't remember the speed or model number.

    We will be getting a place together soon so I could do video on there also.

    All the video converting I been doing on this laptop works fine now, it may take a bit long sometimes but it works. I'm just using this as a excuse to get a new laptop.

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    That laptops specs you mentioned are fine for your intended purposes. I have a Imac with duo core slightly faster and its an editing monster. Just max out the ram and disable and bull processes running and it will be a good little rig. But it would be much cheaper to build a semi barebones pc with more powerful processor if thats what you want to use it for.

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    whats the price?
    try one of these if you spending 1k+

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218092150636

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220576

    looks nice man what you guys get in usa, while in aussie we are stuck with , nothing beats buying in bulk and importing it to aussie....i just missed out on a group buy, but this looks powerful...if you dont need a quad, change the cpu to the highest T9600 2.8ghz series cpu and you be fine with a Duo core...

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    These are the spec for the laptop I'm currently using
    Processor Speed: 1.67 GHz

    Processor Speed: 2.1GHz

    Do the math.

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    Just switch with her then.

    There's nothing wrong with the system you currently have, it's just that everything you want to do would take longer than it would with the newer system, and if you're going to upgrade anyway you might as well get the most bang for your buck, and it's usually a lot cheaper to upgrade a system when you are buying it rather than afterwards.

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    As I'm sure you know Rat, there's a lot more to it than that.

    The BUS speed on the newer system is faster, the memory speed is faster, the hard drive on the original system is probably a 5400 RPM while the newer system is 7200 RPM, among many other differences (Blu-Ray/HDMI/Bigger Hard Drive ETC).


    400MHZ is faster, but the difference between 1.7 and 2.4 is a much bigger, more noticeable difference.

    Also, it's hard to want to upgrade from a system like the one you have, I spent a lot of time looking at laptops and wanting to get one but never getting one because the specs weren't that much better.

    I finally got something similar to what you're getting but only because the price was right (500.00) and my out of pocket cost wasn't much at all, and my son wound up getting my old system which was similar to your old one.

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    Sorry 2.9 GHZ kicks 1.2 GHZ's ass every time. You want to trade me your CPU for my 1200 MHZ's CPU?

    All that RAM and fancy 500 million GB harddrive talk is meaningless and can be added later.

    And why would someone with only 1.67 ghz processor need 3 Gbs of RAM?

    is this guy playing Medal of Honor 10 while converting Destination 4 to DVD?

    A 1.67 GHZ processor can't handle that work load unless you want to wait 6 hours for your DVD to be ready and even then the words may be off sync.

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    Sorry 2.9 GHZ kicks 1.2 GHZ's ass every time. You want to trade me your CPU for my 1200 MHZ's CPU?

    All that RAM and fancy 500 million GB harddrive talk is meaningless and can be added later.

    And why would someone with only 1.67 ghz processor need 3 Gbs of RAM?

    is this guy playing Medal of Honor 10 while converting Destination 4 to DVD?

    A 1.67 GHZ processor can't handle that work load unless you want to wait 6 hours for your DVD to be ready and even then the words may be off sync.
    You obviously don't know what you are talking about so off.

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    You obviously don't know what you are talking about so off.
    My butt hurt fella you need to let others have a say your not a moderator and last I checked none of your bull theories have held up. Don't be hatin just because you get owned on a daily basis. learn to control your 9th grade mouth.

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    You obviously don't know what you are talking about so off.
    Hey asshat you want to put your money where your immature mouth is?

    Bring 500 dollars and your peice of 1.6 ghz laptop to my place and we will both play Medal of Honor while converting a RAR file to DVD and lets see who has more success since your such a hot shot talking computer GOD you claim to be.

    I will have BigZax bring his camcorder we can host the results on youtube.

    Ps: bring cash no checks accepted.

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    Finally some excitement around here! PM5K take that 1.67 ghz laptop and kick mouse's 2.9 ghz piece of laptop's ass! I know you can do it!

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    I think there's some misunderstanding here, I never said his original laptop would be faster than the new one.

    What I did say is that the newer is faster in a lot of other ways, not just the CPU.

    Again, the BUS speed is faster, the memory is faster, the hard drive is faster, etc.

    To say 2.1 is faster than 1.67 is an over simplification of things, if he upgraded his current laptop to a 2.1 GHZ CPU it still wouldn't be as fast as the one he's looking at.

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    PM5K you are right!! it's when you tell someone to shut the up that it makes you look bad.

    So is this challenge now off?

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    PM5K you are right!! it's when you tell someone to shut the up that it makes you look bad.

    So is this challenge now off?
    When it's really bad advice I think a good "shut the up" is totally appropriate.

    So for example:

    All that RAM and fancy 500 million GB harddrive talk is meaningless and can be added later.
    When you are working with video a big hard drive is an absolute necessity. Not only that but his current drive is probably 5400RPM, writing and reading videos will be a lot faster on a 7200 RPM drive than on a 5400 RPM drive.

    Also, just running Vista or Windows 7 eats up a lot of RAM, add video editing software and 3-4 GB RAM is again an absolute necessity.

    Adding RAM and a hard drive afterwards will cost more than buying upgrades when you build the machine, and who the wants to build a new computer and then turnaround and upgrade it?

    And why would someone with only 1.67 ghz processor need 3 Gbs of RAM?

    is this guy playing Medal of Honor 10 while converting Destination 4 to DVD?
    Again, an OS + video editing software eats RAM, you can never have too much, and RAM is a lot cheaper to get when it's new rather than later when it's outdated and out of production.

    A 1.67 GHZ processor can't handle that work load unless you want to wait 6 hours for your DVD to be ready and even then the words may be off sync.
    Nothing will be out of sync, it will just take longer.

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    Finally some excitement around here! PM5K take that 1.67 ghz laptop and kick mouse's 2.9 ghz piece of laptop's ass! I know you can do it!
    mouse 2.9ghz is a fkn duo core

    urs 1.67ghz duo core..do the math ot, theres a huge difference in speed when doing benchmarks, unless urs a quad...

    then again in benchmarks a quad would beat a duo when encoding clips, but the difference isnt noticeable since the quad is below 2ghz...i still prefer the 2.9ghz duo core, since most applications today will fully utilize the 2 cores, while 4 cores applications unless you running multiple in the background.

    500gb hdd dont mean , cause you can always get an external down the road if you need more .....

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    God you guys need to learn how to ing read.

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    When you are working with video a big hard drive is an absolute necessity. Not only that but his current drive is probably 5400RPM, writing and reading videos will be a lot faster on a 7200 RPM drive than on a 5400 RPM drive.

    Adding RAM and a hard drive afterwards will cost more than buying upgrades when you build the machine, and who the wants to build a new computer and then turnaround and upgrade it?
    you can always get the SSD cost a fair bit.....
    hence you can always pull out the laptops cpu, and upgrade it....

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    Why the would someone upgrade a laptop they just bought?

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    Wow....lol, did not see all that coming when I click the thread to see what was posted.

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    Sorry 2.9 GHZ kicks 1.2 GHZ's ass every time. You want to trade me your CPU for my 1200 MHZ's CPU?
    Who mentioned 1.2 Ghz? All I see is 1.7 vs. 2.1, which is what the OP asked. Someone else came forward and mentioned a quad-core, but for a laptop that's a much more expensive solution.

    All that RAM and fancy 500 million GB harddrive talk is meaningless and can be added later.
    It's a of a lot more expensive to buy everything separate later than to just buy it now and be done with it.

    And why would someone with only 1.67 ghz processor need 3 Gbs of RAM?
    I'm puzzled at your phrasing of the relationship between RAM and processing speed. They are separate and do not depend upon one another. A 1.67 Ghz processor will still see a large performance improvement if it runs on 3 GB of RAM vs. 1 GB.

    is this guy playing Medal of Honor 10 while converting Destination 4 to DVD?
    "A computer will never need more than 640k of RAM." - Bill Gates

    First of all, any video editing will absolutely chew through RAM. Even if the OP won't use all 3 gigs (which he probably will, I know I've maxed my desktop out at times), it's still a good idea to be future proofed. It wasn't so long in the past that I recall reading a review for a desktop with 40 GB of hard drive, and the reviewer almost docked it because it had "too much space."

    A 1.67 GHZ processor can't handle that work load unless you want to wait 6 hours for your DVD to be ready and even then the words may be off sync.
    Once more, I don't know about the correlation you are drawing here. More RAM does not place additional strain on the processor. More RAM will never, ever make a DVD "off-sync". I really have to question your knowledge of RAM and processing speed in modern computers. They are not interrelated and will not negatively affect one another. Yes, a higher clock speed will mean a computer run faster, but you could have a 1.67 Ghz dual-core processor with 8 Gigs of RAM without experiencing any negative effects. RAM is essentially a separate type of storage that the system can use for faster access. It is akin to a second extremely fast hard-drive that allows the computer to multi-task more efficiently.

    Again, aside from slightly bottlenecking the system, you will see no ill effects from having more RAM with a specific processor, unless that RAM is incompatible with the mobo, in which case the system will not boot at all.

    Please do not insinuate further that someone with bottlenecks will cause a system to malfunction. This is entirely false. More RAM does not place an additional strain on the processor, in fact it nearly always offers a performance boost, since the more RAM a system has, the less it has to rely on writing data to the paging file of a hard drive.

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    you can always get the SSD cost a fair bit.....
    hence you can always pull out the laptops cpu, and upgrade it....
    A SSD might actually be slower for his purposes.

    SSD are insanely fast at reading data, which is why you see boot/startup times that are out of this world (sub 30 seconds vs. 1:20+ with conventional HDDs), and it can retrieve data at much higher speeds.

    However, SSD is still notoriously slow while writing to the disk (Sly: Think, anytime you save something to the drive, it's "writing"), in many cases it is even slower than a Hard Disk Drive (HDD). The best all-around performance (to my knowledge) still comes from a 10,000+ RPM HDD. SSD is just too slow for projects requiring a lot of data creation/writing at the present time, if that's what you intend to use it for. Also, SSDs are still very new technology (in the consumer base) and are extremely varied on performance based upon the SSD controller being used. A bad controller can be severely detrimental to performance.
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