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    Given the choice between A) one person who hasn't mentioned sucking the President's member and B) one person who's mentioned it twice, unprovoked...

    Hmmm who would I think is obsessed with that idea...
    this post is right on TARGET!

    wouldn't you agree, jacob?

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    I'll supply you with a link when you admit that you want to suck Obama's or have at least fantasized about it.
    You gave me a yes or no option; I answered "no" quite truthfully.

    I asked you about a matter of fact.

    You promptly lied and continued going on about Obama's penis.

    Since you lied about a simple point of fact so readily and talk about Obama's penis continually, we can only conclude that it is you who want said penis in your mouth, and any denial on your part would be a lie.

    So we won't bother asking -- we already know the answer.

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    You gave me a yes or no option; I answered "no" quite truthfully.

    I asked you about a matter of fact.

    You promptly lied and continued going on about Obama's penis.

    Since you lied about a simple point of fact so readily and talk about Obama's penis continually, we can only conclude that it is you who want said penis in your mouth, and any denial on your part would be a lie.

    So we won't bother asking -- we already know the answer.
    What's REALLY strange is that he DEMANDS you admit to some sexual fantasy of you and the President before he'll share the information. It's almost like he's hoping you'll provide it to him in telling detail.

    Ever see that South Park with Mel Gibson? "Oh no... PLEASE don't torture me! Don't twist my nipples!"

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    I understand that he has his fantasies, I just don't understand why he thought lying about some congressman yelling at Bush during on of his speeches like Wilson did was a good idea -- like he was really scoring some points that way.

    I suppose I can't really apply logic to the actions of one so obsessed though....

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    I thought this was about decorum in the House chamber.
    Found an article that backs Yoni up on the question of House decorum:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27184.html

    If Rep. Joe Wilson is finding parliamentary procedure to be a bit of a nuisance in the wake of his “you lie” attack on President Barack Obama, he has his Republican forbearers to thank.




    On June 26, 1985, Rep. Robert Walker – a Pennsylvania Republican who beat the drum for decorum throughout his 20 years in the House – took issue with Rep. James Traficant for saying that then-President Ronald Reagan had deceived the senior citizens of the United States.




    “Is it not a violation of the rules of the House to question the motives of the president and to refer to him as being someone who lies?” Walker asked on the floor.




    “The gentleman is correct,” agreed then-Speaker Tip O’Neill . “It is not proper.”




    O’Neill ordered that Traficant’s offending remarks be stricken from the record and directed the congressman – subsequently convicted on federal corruption charges – to “revise his remarks.”



    Traficant’s toupee wasn’t Walker’s only scalp.




    In 1986, Walker demanded that the words of Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) be “taken down” after Markey said that “hypocrisy had characterized” Reagan’s handling of arms control.




    Then, on Sept. 24, 1992, Walker went after Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon) after DeFazio attempted to defend then-Democratic nominee Bill Clinton against House Republican attacks over his memory of the Vietnam era by going after then-President George H.W. Bush’s memory of the Iran-Contra affair.




    “Well,” said DeFazio, “it turns out that the president’s recollection of affairs of state a mere six years ago when he was vice president of the United States are contradicted by Secretary [Caspar] Weinberger and Secretary [George] Shultz.”




    DeFazio proceeded to read from a Washington Post story:




    “New information emerging from court cases and congressional records since Bush last ran for president has cast fresh doubt on his assertion that he was ‘out of the loop’ generally involved in and largely unaware of the most controversial Iran-Contra operations.”
    Walker stepped in.




    “Mr. Speaker, I demand the gentleman’s words be taken,” he exclaimed. “I demand the gentleman’s words be taken down.”




    As Walker persisted, DeFazio stood his ground.




    “I am certainly not going to withdraw the printed quote,” he said, from whence a parliamentary inquiry was conducted.


    Ultimately, the speaker pro tempore, former Rep. Ron Mazzoli (D-Kentucky), rendered this judgment: “The chair has ruled that [DeFazio] was out of order on that part of his remarks…If [Walker] wishes to object to any of the other members who may want to read from printed material, the gentleman would be in order, subject to the will of the House.”




    The question whether a member could attack the president’s veracity via quoted material emerged again on Nov. 15, 1995, when Republican Rep. David Dreier used a David Broder line to launch an attack on Clinton.

    After going through a litany of Clinton statements about balancing the budget, Dreier said: “Looking at those statement that were made by the president, one could not help but think once again of what David Broder referred to in his very famous column back in 1993 as the ‘trust deficit.’”

    Dreier was admonished for his statements and told his defense – “I was quoting, Mr. Speaker” – did not make for a suitable excuse.




    The prohibition on attacking the president’s integrity dates back to Thomas Jefferson’s Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States, which he wrote in 1801. In 1909, the House made his proscriptions the explicit rules of decorum, and has put abridgements of his manual in a pamphlet led, “Cons ution, Jefferson's Manual, and Rules of the House of Representatives.”




    It stipulates that: “Personal abuse, innuendo, or ridicule of the president, is not permitted. Under this standard it is not in order to call the president, or a presumptive major-party nominee for president, a ‘liar’ or accuse him of ‘lying.’ Indeed, any suggestion of mendacity is out of order.”




    If Wilson has any doubts about the prohibition, he needs only goes back to June 6, 1996, when his current Republican colleague in the South Carolina delegation, Rep. Bob Inglis, was holding the gavel.



    “The chair admonishes members not to refer to the president in terms personally offensive,” Inglis told the House that day.




    Inglis has urged Wilson to apologize for his outburst.



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    So Wilson did break house decorum.

    Great.

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    You guys crack me up.

    So what should be Wilson's punishment for his outburst? Death by firing squad?

    If you failed to understand my sarcasm then I will explain it. When I mentioned Obama's , I was using it as an example of how much Obama lovers orgasm over the man because they like and/or love him so much. They are so blinded by their loyalty and ideology that Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I just wish Obama lovers could admit that the man is not perfect and makes mistakes.

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    So what should be Wilson's punishment for his outburst? Death by firing squad?
    Not suggested in the thread. Do you think this is a good idea?

    If you failed to understand my sarcasm then I will explain it.
    I think everybody understood. But it wasn't funny. It was just kind of creepy.
    IWhen I mentioned Obama's , I was using it as an example of how much Obama lovers orgasm over the man
    Speaks for itself, really.

    because they like and/or love him so much. They are so blinded by their loyalty and ideology that Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I just wish Obama lovers could admit that the man is not perfect and makes mistakes.
    You don't pay much attention to what people actually say, do you?

    Name two people in this forum who resemble your slavering, erotically tinged impersonation of an "Obama lover". Give citation if you can.

    I'll bet you can't.

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    Obama is not perfect and makes mistakes.

    Now why did you lie?

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    I didn't lie. I do think it's funny how you're trying to make it seem like Obama has been bashed and criticized way more than Bush ever was as president.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree but I'll give you the last word.

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    Are you French too?

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    why is this still being bumped

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    You guys crack me up.

    So what should be Wilson's punishment for his outburst? Death by firing squad?

    If you failed to understand my sarcasm then I will explain it. When I mentioned Obama's , I was using it as an example of how much Obama lovers orgasm over the man because they like and/or love him so much. They are so blinded by their loyalty and ideology that Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I just wish Obama lovers could admit that the man is not perfect and makes mistakes.
    Yup, we're the obsessed ones alright.

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    fling that poo, monkeymen!

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    He's too stupid / ignorant to see that he's simply the other side of the spectrum to what he just described. Both anti Obama zombies and pro Obama zombies are full of and should be ridiculed.

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