Rosen: Why There's A Shortage Of Quality Big Men

[Culburn369]

Learn to ing read, Spurfan. I never said Bynum=Superman. I said it would be Dwight and Bynum.

If Bynum stays healthy this year, Dwight & Bynum will be the two best Centers in the NBA.

You can quote me on that end of the year .

ha, ha, Allan just busted a Spurfan's bag!

[mountainballer]

If Bynum stays healthy this year, Dwight & Bynum will be the two best Centers in the NBA.

Oden will be universally recognized as one of the top 3 centers in the league by the end of this coming season. He only goes up from there.

so the two best will be DH and Bynum,
the three best will be DH, Bynum and Oden.
hey guys, we really need a Kings fan to tell us the four best centers will be DH, Bynum, Oden and Hawes.

[Chieflion]

so the two best will be DH and Bynum,
the three best will be DH, Bynum and Oden.
hey guys, we really need a Kings fan to tell us the four best centers will be DH, Bynum, Oden and Hawes.

I think you will need a Wizards fan to tell you about McGee. He is a beast too. Sooner or later, a Warriors fan would pass by telling you how Anthony Randolph will be masquerading as the center of their team.

[eisfeld]

Learn to ing read, Spurfan. I never said Bynum=Superman. I said it would be Dwight and Bynum.

If Bynum stays healthy this year, Dwight & Bynum will be the two best Centers in the NBA.

You can quote me on that end of the year .

I wouldn't count on that. Dwight is in his own league and there are still a couple of centers out there being able to challenge Bynum for second place.

[SenorSpur]

The Ghost of Jackie Butler sees this list and utters the imfamous phrase, "I could've been a contender".

[z0sa]

Why is there a shortage of quality sports writers, Rosen?

[Culburn369]

I wouldn't count on that. Dwight is in his own league and there are still a couple of centers out there being able to challenge Bynum for second place.

Even conversing in Bynum's name in relation to genuine quality centers is indicative of the puny nature of the current supply. Ugh.

[Allanon]

I wouldn't count on that. Dwight is in his own league and there are still a couple of centers out there being able to challenge Bynum for second place.

Nah, my position is quite solid...it's almost a sure bet if he's healthy. Even with his knee problems last year, Bynum's 14 pts, 8 rbds made him the #1 Center in bang for the buck. He was paid something like $250,000 per point average while guys like Dwight were costing something like $750,000 per point average.

If Bynum can average 14 points in an injury plagued year, let's see Bynum rack up the stats in a healthy year...I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the 17-20 point range with 10+ rebounds.

[wireonfire]

Brook Lopez is already better than Oden.

Not on defense. I still think Oden has bigger upside because he is more athletic and much more physical.

[wireonfire]

I think you will need a Wizards fan to tell you about McGee. He is a beast too. Sooner or later, a Warriors fan would pass by telling you how Anthony Randolph will be masquerading as the center of their team.

AR is really a joy to watch, but he ain't a center, not in a hundred years.

[Chieflion]

AR is really a joy to watch, but he ain't a center, not in a hundred years.

It is a joke about small ball and I heard that Anthony Randolph said something about a growth spurt and that he is 7 foot, 222 pounds.

[Dunc n Dave]

Nah, my position is quite solid...it's almost a sure bet if he's healthy. Even with his knee problems last year, Bynum's 14 pts, 8 rbds made him the #1 Center in bang for the buck. He was paid something like $250,000 per point average while guys like Dwight were costing something like $750,000 per point average.

If Bynum can average 14 points in an injury plagued year, let's see Bynum rack up the stats in a healthy year...I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the 17-20 point range with 10+ rebounds.

It you figure in all the games he missed (total pts on the season) it's not quite the "value" you make it out to be....

[Galileo]

* Darko Milicic (24) has all of the necessary tools to excel at this position, but waiting for him to realize his potential is like waiting for Godot.

HAHA!! THAT'S A KNEE SLAPPER!

[Allanon]

It you figure in all the games he missed (total pts on the season) it's not quite the "value" you make it out to be....

Even if you figure in his missed games, with his $3 million dollar salary, he delivered the most bang for the buck.

Any Center that scored 14+ points a game easily made double Bynum's salary. Guys like Shaq/Dwight/Yao all made 5 to 7 times more money for 5-6 more points.

Jermaine 'O Neal $23 million - 13 pts, 6 rbds
Shaq $20 million - 18 pts, 8 rbds
Yao $16 million - 20pts, 9 rbds
Dwight $15 million - 20 pts, 14 rbds
Tyson Chandler $12 million - 9 pts, 8 rbds
Nene $11 million - 14 pts, 8 rbds
Chris Kaman $10 million - 13 pts, 8 rbds
Erick Dampier $10 million - 6 pts, 7 rbds

Bynum $3 million - 14 pts, 8 rbds

That's quite a bargain right thar.

[Lars]

Simplification of statistics, doesn't measure defensive impact and drawing double teams. If two guys average identical numbers but one is consistantly double teamed, is it the same value?

Also to the guy who said Oden is better defensively, I disagree wholeheartedly. Oden can barely stay on the floor he fouls so much.

[Allanon]

We can get complicated if you like, I like it easy cuz I'm lazy.

So what complicated statistics could you make that would justify Jermaine O' Neals $23 million to Bynum's $3 million?

[Lars]

Are you seriously trying to argue you point based on a rookie contract? Bynum is scheduled to make 12 million next year and 16 million in 2012-13.

[Culburn369]

He stopped Howard. Just cuz it's not popular to cite Bynum cuz Media says it ain't doesn't preclude me from doing so. 4 games in and Howard exclaimed: "no mas." & Bynum made him utter it. Can one put a price on that? Sure, knock yerself out.

[Chieflion]

Simplification of statistics, doesn't measure defensive impact and drawing double teams. If two guys average identical numbers but one is consistantly double teamed, is it the same value?

Also to the guy who said Oden is better defensively, I disagree wholeheartedly. Oden can barely stay on the floor he fouls so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6j8JCajoMA (A Blazer fan complaint, this is the kind of bull the refs are pulling on Oden. Why would they even call this?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wxUaMiiaQ&feature=fvw (Even as a Spurs fan, Kurt Thomas initiated the contact and wrapped his arm around Oden's arm, causing Oden 4th foul.)

[Lars]

I have no sympathy for the first one, Oden and Pryzbilla hung on Yao the whole series, could of been a makeup call. Second one I dunno, ref angle maybe?

[Dunc n Dave]

Even if you figure in his missed games, with his $3 million dollar salary, he delivered the most bang for the buck.

Any Center that scored 14+ points a game easily made double Bynum's salary. Guys like Shaq/Dwight/Yao all made 5 to 7 times more money for 5-6 more points.

Jermaine 'O Neal $23 million - 13 pts, 6 rbds
Shaq $20 million - 18 pts, 8 rbds
Yao $16 million - 20pts, 9 rbds
Dwight $15 million - 20 pts, 14 rbds
Tyson Chandler $12 million - 9 pts, 8 rbds
Nene $11 million - 14 pts, 8 rbds
Chris Kaman $10 million - 13 pts, 8 rbds
Erick Dampier $10 million - 6 pts, 7 rbds

Bynum $3 million - 14 pts, 8 rbds

That's quite a bargain right thar.

Brook Lopez made only $2 million last year, averaged 13pts, 8 rebs, and 1.8 blks and played all 82 games in his rookie season. I'd say he's a better "value for your buck" than Andrew Bynum who missed 32 games last year while only AVERAGING 1 more point than Lopez in his 3rd season. And don't try to argue that Lopez isn't a center; he's a legit 7 footer...

Compare their point totals on the entire season and divide their salary by those numbers and Lopez was CLEARLY a better value per point, rebound, block, you name it...

[mogrovejo]

Why did the writer ignore the BIGGEST reason?

Defensive and Offensive 3 second rules. No handchecking, no arm stiffs anymore

The rules have changed to allow more scoring, specifically for the perimeter players by forcing the Centers to leave the lanes.

Exactly. The change or rules if by far the biggest reason. The game is now much easier for perimeter players.

[Culburn369]

Exactly. The change or rules if by far the biggest reason. The game is now much easier for perimeter players.

Blame goes to Daddy for beating Mutombo within an inch of his life in the Philly Finals in front of everybody. Blame goes to Colangelo---he convened a blue ribbon panel that offseason and changed the rules.

[jdev82]

I'm as big a Bynum fan as there is.

But if he does happen to have 3 years in a row of serious knee problems, that's too much to be a coincidence. Just being realistic.

However, I do think his injuries were a fluke and nothing more... he'll be fully healthy this year, and then it's just good times.

when are you morons going to wake up and smell the ? bynum straight up doesnt have the talent to be competing on an nba level. hes far too awkward. not to mention injury prone. bynum sucks. plain and simple. he sucks.

[exstatic]

Bynum $3 million - 14 pts, 8 rbds

Uh, that is over. It's put up or shut up time for Baby Drew.

Bynum 2009 - $12,526,998

How on earth do you see his scoring going up? There's only one ball, and he plays with Kobe and Krazy Ron.