Top 10 Shooting Guards All-Time

[dirk4mvp]

If people are going to start throwing names like TMac out there, then you have to consider Ginobili. He's definitely been hampered by injuries late in his career, but if you go by accomplishments, he rivals anybody on this list (especially considering his international career). Three NBA championships in seven years, plus an Olympic Gold (more stunning due to upset of US), Italian League MVP, and Euroleague Finals MVP.

When he's healthy and on the court, he is probably as effective as any other guard in the league sans Bryant, and he's nipping at his heels.

I don't think hes near the top of a Top 10 list, but I think he could deservedly nab one of the last spots.

T-Mac is a much better player than ginobili.

[Culburn369]

T-Mac is a much better player than ginobili.

Yer out of yer f'in mind.

[hater]

T-Mac is a much better player than ginobili.

when he's 100% healthy which is .5% of the time

[Dex]

T-Mac is a much better player than ginobili.

Statistically speaking, yes. But talk to me when T-Mac channels all that talent into being able to get out of the first round (Riding the bench doesn't count).

Hypothetical: You're on the blacktop picking teams for basketball. Would you rather have the guy who has more talent, or the guy who always wins ball games?

Subjectivity is going to make this list impossible. Are we going primarily on stats, or accomplishments, or what?

(I will admit, however, that TMac has never quite had a Parker and Duncan at his side)

[Culburn369]

lol....One must admit that me playing the looney tunes has sobered this Forum up considerably.

tee, hee.

[tlongII]

Now we have to make sure to include just SG and not PG or SF. I honestly don't know who the top 10 are. I am asking you guys to weigh in. I am curious to how you all see it. I do have a top 4, but after that, I am not sure......

1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. George Gervin

After this, I know some other guys deserve to be in the top 10.....Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller, Pete Maravich, Dave Bing

Now guys like Ro Blackman, Alex English, Bernard King, John Havlicek, David Thompson.....I am not sure if they were SG or SF.

I would put Brandon Roy at #3. Just ahead of Kobe.

[Chieflion]

I would put Brandon Roy at #3. Just ahead of Kobe.

Please just stop.

[Culburn369]

I would put Brandon Roy at #3. Just ahead of Kobe.

tee, hee.

[manufan10]

Jerry West was a PG, not a SG. In that era, they called him a guard anyway but people consider him a PG.

1. Michael Jordan (No point spinning it the other way.)
2. Kobe Bryant (Hey, he is that good, well no one else could match his longevity in basketball as a SG.)
3. Allen Iverson (1st SG MVP since Michael Jordan, led the 76ers to the finals with only him as the offense.)
4. George Gervin (Super scorer and homer vote)
5. Dwyane Wade (Rounds up my top 5 for his 2006 Finals MVP and arguably greatest Finals series debut and performance of all time after being down 0-2.)
6. Clyde Drexler (Lets just say he was overshadowed by a certain SG his entire career.)
7. Joe Dumars (Is the top 10 SG list this thin? Well, he was 1989 Finals MVP after all.)
8. Reggie Miller (8 points in 8 seconds, 1st master of the 3 point shot. Incredibly clutch, too bad he didn't win one.
9. Tracy McGrady ( , what is going on? Well, T-Mac was phenomenal when he was putting up 32 points a game. The youngest to put up such numbers in the NBA. His prime puts him at 5. His considerable decline and lack of win drops him down to 9 though.)
10. Vince Carter (We have Mr Dunk the Ball highlight reel Vince Carter who could destroy you on any given night. Too bad he was just too lazy to do so.)

Honorable mention: Ray Allen

Well, I am not that familiar with the NBA before the 3 point line much, so here is my list.

This is about right to me.

tee,hee

[Chieflion]

Fill in the blank.

You are a perfect example of ____________________

I already apologised for my mistake. What is the matter with you Laker bags?

[Culburn369]

This is about right to me.

tee,hee

How dare you, sir!

[sook]

If people are going to start throwing names like TMac out there, then you have to consider Ginobili. He's definitely been hampered by injuries late in his career, but if you go by accomplishments, he rivals anybody on this list (especially considering his international career). Three NBA championships in seven years, plus an Olympic Gold (more stunning due to upset of US), Italian League MVP, and Euroleague Finals MVP.

When he's healthy and on the court, he is probably as effective as any other guard in the league sans Bryant, and he's nipping at his heels.

I don't think hes near the top of a Top 10 list, but I think he could deservedly nab one of the last spots.

not trying to sound rude at all when i say ginobili was just an excellent role player, still probably still one of the best ever though. But all those guys people are putting on their list have been 1st option

[Chieflion]

Are you from Europe?

Singapore practices British English.

[Dex]

not trying to sound rude at all when i say ginobili was just an excellent role player, still probably still one of the best ever though. But all those guys people are putting on their list have been 1st option

Manu was the head honcho in most of his international career, but has always had talent around him. But I definitely agree to your point; Manu has never had to carry an NBA team.

Then again, neither Jordan nor Bryant were ever able to win a le without getting SOME help at their side. No matter how great the player, this will always be a team game.

[dirk4mvp]

Manu gets to play with Tim Duncan and Parker. T-Mac gets to play with a center who breaks his foot every year.

[JamStone]

If you take into consideration his international career, Ginobili could easily be argued as in or at least near the top 10 of shooting guards. Hard to know the OP's intent, but one could assume he meant only based on NBA careers. If that's the case, I think it's harder to argue Ginobili being close to the top 10. It's just one of those things. It depends on what the parameters of the list and discussion are. Based on his NBA career, at best, he'll be remember more along the lines of a McHale or Worthy. He could likely be viewed eventually as a HOF type talent, but he'll always be viewed as that sidekick type of HOF rather than one of the no. 1 guys. But if you ask Ginobili, I think he'll take that if the alternative would have been being a T-Mac or Vince Carter type of career where he dominated individually but had very little team success.

[Culburn369]

But I definitely agree to your point; Manu has never had to carry an NBA team.

Only to the decisive end. Many times when Duncan reached out his hand it was Manu who knew to hold it.

[kamikazi_player]

Sorry but T-mac is much better than Gino when healthy especially if we're comparing primes.

[Galileo]

Now we have to make sure to include just SG and not PG or SF. I honestly don't know who the top 10 are. I am asking you guys to weigh in. I am curious to how you all see it. I do have a top 4, but after that, I am not sure......

1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. George Gervin

After this, I know some other guys deserve to be in the top 10.....Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller, Pete Maravich, Dave Bing

Now guys like Ro Blackman, Alex English, Bernard King, John Havlicek, David Thompson.....I am not sure if they were SG or SF.

Jerry West > Jordan

for multiple reasons.

[da_suns_fan]

1) MJ
2) Kobe
3) Drexler
4) Reggie Miller
5) Dwayne Wade

[da_suns_fan]

Jerry West > Jordan

for multiple reasons.

I dont like when anyone brings up anyone from the old era of basketball when talking about the "best ever". Anyone before the merger of the NBA and ABA was playing in a vastly different league than the one today.

Besides, Jordan wouldve averaged 50 ppg in West's era.

[Galileo]

I dont like when anyone brings up anyone from the old era of basketball when talking about the "best ever". Anyone before the merger of the NBA and ABA was playing in a vastly different league than the one today.

Besides, Jordan wouldve averaged 50 ppg in West's era.

That's bull !

West didn't have the three-point shot. West was still a 1st team all-NBA player in 1974 when he was an old man and past his prime.

He had the longest shooting range of anyone in history.

He lead his team to a 33 game winning streak.

He played in 9 NBA finals.

He was the greatest clutch palyer ever, hence he is known as Mr. Clutch.

He had more 40 point games in the NBA finals than anyone in history.

Shortest player ever in college to get 2000 points and 1000 rebounds.

Drafted higher than Jordan, # 2 vs # 3.

Better on D than Jordan, was still 1st team all-NBA defense in 1970-1973, they didn't give the award before then.

Better passer than Jordan, with more assists.

Captain of greatest Olympic team ever, 1960 gold medal winners.

Named MVP of 1959 NCAA finals, despite being from a small school.

Only NBA Finals MVP from a losing team in 1969.

Coolest nickname ever; Zeke from Cabin Creek.

Jerry West IS the NBA logo.

Ultimate Player - Jerry West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FCoifWtapc

Highest scoring average ever in NBA playoff series; 46.3 points per game.

Jerry West - Mr. Clutch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8oGUyREHcQ

THE LEGEND - Jerry West MIX by MISIEK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETnpo4Fs33M

NBA at 50: Jerry West (biography)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4JjXsT6McI

Jerry West - West Virginia University Mountaineers - Greatest Basketball Players
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/226536...tball_players/

jerry west
http://www.indavideo.hu/video/jerry_...0e5e24c527c619

[Amaso]

That's bull !

West didn't have the three-point shot. West was still a 1st team all-NBA player in 1974 when he was an old man and past his prime.

He had the longest shooting range of anyone in history.

He lead his team to a 33 game winning streak.

He played in 9 NBA finals.

He was the greatest clutch palyer ever, hence he is known as Mr. Clutch.

He had more 40 point games in the NBA finals than anyone in history.

Shortest player ever in college to get 2000 points and 1000 rebounds.

Drafted higher than Jordan, # 2 vs # 3.

Better on D than Jordan, was still 1st team all-NBA defense in 1970-1973, they didn't give the award before then.

Better passer than Jordan, with more assists.

Captain of greatest Olympic team ever, 1960 gold medal winners.

Named MVP of 1959 NCAA finals, despite being from a small school.

Only NBA Finals MVP from a losing team in 1969.

Coolest nickname ever; Zeke from Cabin Creek.

Jerry West IS the NBA logo.

Ultimate Player - Jerry West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FCoifWtapc

Highest scoring average ever in NBA playoff series; 46.3 points per game.

Jerry West - Mr. Clutch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8oGUyREHcQ

THE LEGEND - Jerry West MIX by MISIEK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETnpo4Fs33M

NBA at 50: Jerry West (biography)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4JjXsT6McI

Jerry West - West Virginia University Mountaineers - Greatest Basketball Players
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/226536...tball_players/

jerry west
http://www.indavideo.hu/video/jerry_...0e5e24c527c619

lol

[manufan10]

How dare you, sir!

Did it upset you?

tee, hee

[Culburn369]

Did it upset you?

tee, hee

I was taken a back, yes.