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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    I see this being brought up a lot on RealGM and it's annoying. People argue a lot over who is the best Euro or whatever and it always happens. Someone says Manu, then someone else disagrees and says that he is from Argentina therefore not a Euro but someone else will say Ginobili is Italian and he has dual citizenship...etc.

    So, what do you guys think?

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    parkers better and hes a real euro

    doesnt really matter though, i generally group all non-americans together

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    Tony Parker is no Manu Ginobili, but Manu is from Argentina

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    dont really want to turn this into tony v manu but tony is better, that is a fact

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    Me either, considering Ginobili is clearly the better player

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    hes better at losing playoff series for us

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    yeah parker was amazing in the 2004 playoffs against the Lakers.

    I love Parker, I just think this thread is already doomed.

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    Tony Parker NOW is obviously better than Ginobili, at this point in their respective careers. However, that is not the point, so let's not hijack this thread.

    yeah parker was amazing in the 2004 playoffs against the Lakers.
    He was in the first two games. But come on, he was like barely 21 years old. Give the dude some credit. They clogged the paint and forced the Spurs hit outside shots and no one did. You can blame Hedo a lot more than Tony.

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    manu had a better PER before inury

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    Damn shouldn't have even came in here.

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    Tony Parker NOW is obviously better than Ginobili, at this point in their respective careers. However, that is not the point, so let's not hijack this thread.



    He was in the first two games. But come on, he was like barely 21 years old. Give the dude some credit. They clogged the paint and forced the Spurs hit outside shots and no one did. You can blame Hedo a lot more than Tony.
    Good Point.

    And this also pushed Tony to be a more consistent jump shooter now.

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    Guys, I'm just talking smack cuz this is where the thread was going. It's silly to mention Manu losing a series for us, when he's won us more series than Parker has.

    Either way, I got no beef with Tony at all, I'm just goofin

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    its silly to mention the 2009 and 2008 nba playoffs?


    not to mention 2006...

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    Where's Ducks btw?

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    no he's not a euro but if he was he'd be the best euro on the spurs team

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    Where's Ducks btw?
    sucking

    manu>>>>>>>>>>>>>gayker

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    Manu is not a Euro.

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    when people say manu is better, they have to be totally basing that on his gold medal and international career, thats the only logical reason why anyone would ever consider manu being better

    if you cheer for gold medals, awesome more power to you, but this the nba, the BIG LEAGUES, the show, when you say basketball, its the only thing that ing matters, period.

    christian lattener is polishing his gold medal right now

    parker is better and in the years 2008 and on its not even close, yes manus skin color is like yours, he speaks spanish, he has long hair, he plays with "heart" take the bull emotion out of it

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    sucking

    manu>>>>>>>>>>>>>gayker
    If you really don't like Tony, then you shouldn't bother being a Spur fan anymore. It must suck to have a player you hate on a team you love.

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    Manu wouldn't be considered the best Euro anyway. I think Dirk is, and in fact he might be the best international player.

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    No and as far as international players go in the NBA there are several players before him including TP. As far as overall international player accomplishments Manu would be near the top.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    If you really don't like Tony, then you shouldn't bother being a Spur fan anymore. It must suck to have a player you hate on a team you love.
    This.

    I don't see how so many people can hate certain players on the team. Sure, there are more players I like than others but I couldn't hate a player on our team.

    Except for Beno. Beno.

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    I see this being brought up a lot on RealGM and it's annoying. People argue a lot over who is the best Euro or whatever and it always happens. Someone says Manu, then someone else disagrees and says that he is from Argentina therefore not a Euro but someone else will say Ginobili is Italian and he has dual citizenship...etc.

    So, what do you guys think?
    that dual citizenship argument is BS --he had Italian passport only b/c he played in an Italian team. Playing for an European team shouldn't make you European! End of story :P

    Was Manu the best sixth player in the NBA? Is he American? NO!

    At the moment he is an NBA player, before he played in the Europe. That makes him one of best NBA players that come from Europe. Was he born there, NO. What difference does that make?

    I don't think the problem is the answer (Manu being one the best European players in the NBA) the problem is with the question!

    for example;

    Who is the best NBA player born in the virgin islands? Timmy of course!

    you guys need to be more specific and try to clarify what's the question you are trying to answer. Are you talking about European born players or players that played in Europe previously (i.e. made a name in Europe first and then came to the NBA).

    But for Christ sake, Manu is NOT Italian. He is Argentinian! Also he modeled pats of his game on the great Dejan Dodironga, one of the best European player to never play in the NBA in my opinion. Maybe better than Manu himself. That make him "European" in my eyes.

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    no but his game is.

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    This.

    I don't see how so many people can hate certain players on the team. Sure, there are more players I like than others but I couldn't hate a player on our team.

    Except for Beno. Beno.


    well lucky for us, Pop hated Beno to.

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