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Which Centers are better than Bynum?
My point is Bynum was the most bang for the buck Center last year. I'm not talking about this year.
There was no rookie contract or veteran pro that put up Bynum's kind of numbers at such a cheap price.
Which Centers are better than Bynum?
If you think Brook Lopez is better than Bynum, I suppose that's your opinion.
I think Bynum had like 8 shots per game last year for his 14 pts. I think it's reasonable that he gets 2-3 shots more this year.
Subtract Ariza, who played his role. Add loose cannon Ron Ron, who never met a shot he didn't like. I think 2-3 more shots, every game, may be out of reach. At the 3 end of that scale, that's 246 shots over the course of a full season. Ron ain't gonna let him have that many, let alone Kobe.
Last edited by exstatic; 09-20-2009 at 06:58 PM.
those highlights are mostly .. nothing but dunks, there was a nice one at 3:34, but the rest are crap. where's the footwork, versatility, the craftiness? He only gets the easy dunks cuz of Kobe, which is great for him, but a beast?.. no way!
Bynum's developing a short shot but I'd rather he dunk everytime he has a chance. In the video you can see he has great hands and can pretty much catch anything if it's close to him. Pretty amazing hops and mobility for a 280 pound guy too.
That spin move he did at the end shows off the footwork. I don't know of any 7 foot Center in the NBA right now that has that kind of footwork.
Bynum, when healthy, probably has the best footwork of the young Centers.
It's true that he's been a bit awkward/clumsy since he came back from injury in April but I think he'll get back into form this year.
But if you watch games like where he played the Great Mr. Tim Duncan to a virtual tie, you know he's got some serious talent...at age 21.
Last edited by Allanon; 09-20-2009 at 07:20 PM.
Oden > Bynum
That's not what I'm saying. You keep saying Bynum was the most "bang for your buck" center last year. I just showed you he wasn't.
Brook Lopez was. He made $1 million less than Bynum last year, played all 82 games (not 50-55 games like Bynum), and had nearly IDENTICAL averages as Bynum. Even his minutes per game were the same, so you can't argue that Lopez got more PT to get his numbers.
The difference is Brook Lopez will still be a great value next year while Bynum will join the ranks of the overpaid at $12 million per.
Not only that, but Brook Lopez has an efficiency rating of +17.39 while Bynum's efficiency rating is only +7.22
I'm just sayin...
Where did you purchase your crystal ball? If Bynum gets his 14-10-2 he will be well worth his 12 mil to the Lakers.
Idk where this thread has gone and I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but the reason why there are no quality big men in the NBA is cause an entire generation of big men skipped college.
That does make some sense. Most of the legendary big men worked things out in college and then came to the NBA when they were 22 or so. Lots of young Big men "made it" to the NBA out of high school/1st year college and decided they were already good enough. And on college teams, they'd get alot more PT than they would in their early years in the NBA.
Unlike guards and forwards, Centers can get away with much less skill/polish due to their size so most of them don't work as hard on their game.
Best Center right now is Dwight who was just outta high school when he came in and it took him several years to get up to speed.
this is true. nba big men are too heavily sought after. like what everyone says, coaches can't teach height, frame, and length. as a result, teams start hoarding 7 footers or anyone athletic big man over 6'10. big men are drafted at a young age because every team wants that "potential" shaq or duncan locked up on their teams. they lose a year or two in college and completely miss out on establishing fundamentals.
and brook lopez will be the best all around big man in the next five years.
It is my understanding that most Laker fans believe Duncan to be too old, and too injured to be playing basketball. I do not think that a Laker fans claiming a virtual tie against Duncan is something too brag about since Duncan isn't much of a factor anymore according to their views. I am not implying that this means you directly Allanon, just using it as an example.
"the best" is always a pretty strong claim. why not wait what Blake Griffin can do in some years. his skill set would predestine him to become an even better all around player than Lopez.
personal I think people should keep an eye on the development of Greg Monroe, IMO he will make a big jump this year and (at least) become a top 5 pick 2010. talking about all around game, his skill set is as good as any big man in college.
btw. quite a lot can happen in 5 years from now. it will take two or three more years till a guy named Perry Jones will enter the league. maybe not in 5 years, but in 7 years from now he might be the big man, who gets the label "best all around game".
and never forget: this kid is from Duncanville, Texas. nuff said?
Not at all...at this point in the food chain Duncan is welcome. He's damn near inert.
40% of immigrants living in US currently are residing in California, naturally most of them are seating their asses on Lakers bandwagon. That's said a lot already...
Not to mention the locations of California and the Pacific.
What diff does it make, c@t, they could seat their ass on any bandwagon, ain't gonna make that layup by Lee go in. He flubbed his dub, we lodged #15, you took it up the crapper via the Mavs.40% of immigrants living in US currently are residing in California, naturally most of them are seating their asses on Lakers bandwagon. That's said a lot already...
ADDENDUM: Oops, sorry c@t, I thought you were a Spurs compatriot. Above just subs ute "Mavs" to "Heat" and carry on oh wayward son, they'll be peace when you are done. Lay to rest your weary head, and hey, don't you cry no more.
So does that mean that Bynum is equally as inert as Duncan since they both played each other to a statistical tie then?
More or less yer asking me if I had my druthers whether I'd pick Duncan OR Bynum at this point in time. That's a toughy, x. I'm a short term kinda a fellow though. I worry about tomorrow---tomorrow. So, admittedly I'd pick Duncan, as an inert as he is...and hope against hope that Bynum doesn't blow up.
Lol!!!
This is a tough choice but I try to look ahead so I would take Bynum right now. Tim Duncan has rapidly declined. Some say it was injuries but it's wear and tear over the years as well. The Tim Duncan of last season, specifically in the playoffs, has lost 2 steps.
Bynum is young and has many years ahead in this league. I would take Bynum and hope that he blows up.
I have a very healthy respect for Tim Duncan...I personally believe he still dominates. Late last year, he had injury issues due to carrying the load all season long while TP & Manu were out. A healthy Duncan is still an elite force to be reckoned with.
Of course, I don't speak for all Laker fans, that's just my point of view.
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