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Log carrying might be tiresome, but not as bad as the system in place for log carriers to log their hours.
The people ragging on Bynum are foolish. If he is healthy, he has already shown the ability. I would question his heart before his talent.
Log carrying might be tiresome, but not as bad as the system in place for log carriers to log their hours.
He could very well figure the answer to that question when his contract with the lakers is over though.
What I was trying to say, but worded much better. Thanks.
The second one being the most flukish:::Kobe driving to the rim? First time in like 2 seasons (he'd categorically refused in the '08 Finals) and Bynum has to be standing there. I still can't believe it. Either could Bynum.
Didn't his injury in '08 result from bumping into Odom? Dude needs to stay out of the way of his own teammates.
He came down on Odom's foot.
In the time period Bynum was actually playing he never really struggled with little various injuries that most "injury prone" players deal with it. Which why it's way too early to write his career off like many people around here do daily.
I wouldn't really question Bynum's heart. Yeah, maybe he's got a self-en lement issue most straight out high school players have, but you can't deny the improvements he's made since entering the NBA. His rookie year he shot 30% from the line, and now he's a consistent 70% free throw shooter. That doesn't just happen naturally.
I don't agree with 21 on a whole lot of things, but it's undeniable that Bynum looked like he had completely busted onto the scene right before his injury this year. It'd be impossible to say otherwise.
i wouldnt call him injured prone..its not like he was runing by himself and his knee broke.
bad luck maybe. lol
Yes, I agree, but, part of the process is overcoming manufactured obstacles. His talent is tangible. That is the over-riding savior here. The Lakers thankfully don't have to wait for Bynum in order to prevail. That's good for the Lakers, but, bad for Bynum. In order for him to flourish, he needs not only to be whole, but, to be granted a path to flourish. He's already a little bushy-tailed not having some importance attached to his game, a dedicated portion of the Lakers strategy just for him. It's a dicey situation.
I agree completely it's a dicey situation, as it always is when a front line contender has to balance out how much patience they'll have with a developing player and how many wins it will cost to get him the touches he needs.
Getting a healthy Bynum touches won't be costing the Lakers any wins. They were winning just fine pre-Gasol trade as they sat at top of the West at one point.
Last season the Lakers were looking unbeatable when Bynum was posting 25/14/3 the couple weeks before he was injured.
Really, Bynum just needs to stay on the floor. Which starts with his health, then his foul rate and defense. That's what he'll need to flourish on this Lakers team.
His mental state is what concerns me, 21. He's already a might lit over the treatment he's received. I genuinely believe we're not privy to all of his "outbursts"...that they've been able to keep some in-house. We're content to win the ring with him on the edges. He does not share our contentments. He signed that large contract and now wants the payoff. Not only the money, but, the prestigious position within the team hierarchy the contract assures. I don't think he's really keen on Gasol's presence stealing his light. He wants to be Gasol and let Gasol be him. He did not sign on for this. And he ain't gonna take it sitting down, or, in silence. As even a keel as last season played out for the Lakers Bynum still managed to make his dissatisfaction a major issue. Sooner or later we'll have to confront these issues with him.
There has been not even a rumor of an outburst from him. Problems with his agent and some family? Yes. But not from Bynum at all.
How did Bynum make himself an issue last year?
Cleva, please. Jackson admonished him on the court. Kobe had to admonish him on the court during the Finals for Christ sake.
His play not being up to par, especially coming back from injury, and having guys try to push him is not the same as him pouting about his role.
Now, Bynum did talk early on in the 1st round about him not getting enough minutes but he swallowed his pride and by the WCF was talking and doing whatever for the team - including sacrificing his own fouls and PT to protect the basket. Even his teammates were giving him props (I recall Fisher and Kobe) of how he was giving himself up for the team.
I worry about Bynum having bad luck and a dumbass agent, not his at ude.
Bynum has potential.. way too early to write him off.. keep from getting injured, and getting consistent are really his two biggest problems.. I see him solving those this year. He can be a solid center for the lakers imo.
Also, Phil is going to limit Gasol's minutes in the first half of the season especially to compensate for him playing national ball the past 2 summers. Bynum will have plenty of opportunity to do his thing.
Who is that guy wearing #17 for the Lakers?
Did Rick Fox take steroids ?
2Cleva could be onto something here. I've seen Bynum's face when he's playing well. The kid loves being good at basketball too much to make me believe he has a bad at ude. It's different than Oden who even when playing well seems like he could care less. His problems could have a lot to do with who he surrounds himself with, as well as his pre NBA career. A money grubbing agent who could give two s about how his client's career turns out, having a high school coach who never said no to him and did a horrible job teaching him how to be a complete basketball player, and a family that wanted money so they told him to skip college even though a 17 year old kid with little to no skill or polish would benefit greatly from 1-2 years of college.
But, a player's agent is an extension of themselves. In Bynum's eyes this agent has done him solid returns. He's Bynum's agent, he ain't there to serve the Lakers. It's not a cozy friendship twixt team\player\agent. No. It's adversarial in nature. That is how the model was struck decades ago and "we" can't pick & choose when "we" want to go [cozy] versus the status quo. Bynum is not looking at his agent with a jaundiced eye. No, Bynum is looking at the Lakers with a perhaps dangerous amount of derision. His expectations in the backwash of that contract have not been delivered. Money is not a motivator past about 10 seconds. He wants his place in the sun now. Him taking those 7 shots (1st quarter) in that Finals game (I forget which one) was a broadside to the organization. Bynum was declarin' his line.
Cubby, why is it you don't have a problem with Farmar ing about his role and demanding to be the starter, but you somehow have a problem with Bynum when he really hasn't done a lot of public whining at all.
I don't really have a problem with Bynum and his "cause". I'm just casting some light upon the event. Bynum has legit points of view, he's just caught in bad timing. It's fascinating to me the ying & yang of this particular Laker's situation. I look forward to seeing how they solve it. They're not going to be able to short stroke Bynum as they did Odom (hiring Artest). Bynum wants the dais that Kobe and the rest stand up on. He wants up there.
This is all baseless speculation.
To the point though, in your theory Bynum wouldn't have signed a contract with the Lakers if he was worried about Gasol's presence. The trade happened before contract negotiations were even in motion.
It was never a major issue.
Sure, I'm reading twixt the lines, 21. I've seen enough of this behavior though to form an opinion of import.
I have hunch that in the near end Bynum will be playing for another team. They're currently making their efforts to bring him back onto the reservation, get him to soldier in cadence. They'll pull the trigger quick with him though if they feel he's not salvageable.
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