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    His 3 pointers aren't what may help Spurs though, since Spurs have already got a full hand of shooters in Mason, Bonner, etc... But seriously, you can't find anyone except Manu and Tony on Spurs current squad that has the ability, or the willingness to attack the rim inside instead of danging it from the arc.
    but i think he should play Mason minutes, he good 3 point shooter like Mason but unlike Mason he also play defense.

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    I don't think they would be trading Fin, unfortunately it would probably be Mason and a Big (either Mahinmi or Bonner) for a Center (my guess is Diop). Sad, I already like the rotation and i don't see a reason to add Bogans unless another trade is in the works, he's good but Hairston and Williams will be better.

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    We can all say what we want, but the bottom line is that something is brewing in the Spurs FO. They kinda talked down the Defensive Specialist situation with "RJ will take on the Oppositions best wing". Out of nowhere they get Bogans a Defensive Specialist. They haven't said to much about The problem in Middle, as in were obviously to short to Deal with the Lakers/Cavs. I smell a trade coming for a shotblocking 7-0 footer. Just keep in mind that they were trying to work a deal for RJ and happened 6months later. Which means they were trying to do it in the middle of the 2008-09 season. Also remember at the deadline they were trying to get Marcus Camby, Who knows what they might pull before the start of the season when it comes to the Center/Tall PF situation.

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    maybe Bogans can become the next Bowen for the Spurs, both came to the Spurs as 29 years old with little recognition and both the same type of player.

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    If we can get camby without trading the big 4 or half of the roster then the lakers should give us the rings now.

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    We can all say what we want, but the bottom line is that something is brewing in the Spurs FO. They kinda talked down the Defensive Specialist situation with "RJ will take on the Oppositions best wing". Out of nowhere they get Bogans a Defensive Specialist. They haven't said to much about The problem in Middle, as in were obviously to short to Deal with the Lakers/Cavs. I smell a trade coming for a shotblocking 7-0 footer. Just keep in mind that they were trying to work a deal for RJ and happened 6months later. Which means they were trying to do it in the middle of the 2008-09 season. Also remember at the deadline they were trying to get Marcus Camby, Who knows what they might pull before the start of the season when it comes to the Center/Tall PF situation.
    I agree, but I don't think it would be for Camby, he would cost a lot of players for us to make the trade work most would be Mason/Fin/Bonner/Mahinmi. It's likely that they are targeting Mid Level Centers like Diop, Pryzbilla, Marc Gasol (Griz have Thabeet now), Brook Lopez (ha! that would be insanely awesome! [wishful thinking]), or J. Noah (pls no!)

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    Bulls don't have a TE big enough to take Finley.
    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...exceptions.jsp

    And Bulls are also just below the luxury tax ($1M). Even if they had a TE big enough for Finley, they wouldn't do it because it would put them above the tax.
    ok, thought the TE from the Sefolosha trade is big enough, but seems as if there isn't a 125%+100K rule.

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    ok, thought the TE from the Sefolosha trade is big enough, but seems as if there isn't a 125%+100K rule.
    When calculating the value of TE's that's correct. It's 100%+$100k.

    Another thought on TE's and possible Finley moves. I'd think that even amongst the teams who have TE's big enough to take on Finley that you'd have to further narrow that list down to just teams that have TE's that will expire before the season ends. If you've got a $2.5+ mil TE (big enough for Finley) that doesn't expire until sometime during the 2010 offseason you've got a pretty good chance at being able to turn that TE into a decent player, courtesy of some team looking to clear cap room to get in on the 2010 free agent signings. That would be a much better return than just using your TE to take on Finley plus some cash.
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    I don't think they would be trading Fin, unfortunately it would probably be Mason and a Big (either Mahinmi or Bonner) for a Center (my guess is Diop). Sad, I already like the rotation and i don't see a reason to add Bogans unless another trade is in the works, he's good but Hairston and Williams will be better.
    The bobcats would accept it in a heartbeat once offered Findog/Mahinmi or Bonner/Mason for Rectum Diop. Diop only plays well when facing Spurs, precisely only when facing Tim Duncan can he seems a little bit worth his 6m yearly salary. And dude's instentine-long contract would be a nightmare to the Spurs skimp frontoffice, if he somehow joined the Spurs in exchange for those decent players.

    Findog is probably the oldest dog alive in the world currently, but he can still be a decent role in rotation and plays some sparkling minutes once in a while. Bonner has a pair of excellent hands for someone with his size, it's easy to forecast that his on-court influences will be doubled if his defense work gets improved a little bit. Mahinmi is a damn good rebounder and plays as good defensively as Diop does, while only earning salary. Roger "big shot" Mason is obviously even better than Mahinmi and dog combined.

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    Not certain yet if he signed a guaranteed contract.

    Not sure yet also if he'll make the team.

    He's definitely of the same mold as Malik Hairston, so it's either one or the other.

    We'll see who comes out the winner after the pre-season.

    My prediction: Hairston wins out, but gets sent to D-league!

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    According to reports it is not immediately clear whether Bogans’ contract is fully guaranteed or if it is a make-good deal for camp. Malik, Marcus, and Bogans will fight for the last 2 remaining spots at the wing.

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    Not certain yet if he signed a guaranteed contract.

    Not sure yet also if he'll make the team.

    He's definitely of the same mold as Malik Hairston, so it's either one or the other.

    We'll see who comes out the winner after the pre-season.

    My prediction: Hairston wins out, but gets sent to D-league!
    Said he will sign a guaranteed contract. Williams or Hairiston are gone, or a 2 for 1 is gonna go down.

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    When calculating the value of TE's that's correct. It's 100%+$100k.

    Another thought on TE's and possible Finley moves. I'd think that even amongst the teams who have TE's big enough to take on Finley that you'd have to further narrow that list down to just teams that have TE's that will expire before the season ends. If you've got a $2.5+ mil TE (big enough for Finley) that doesn't expire until sometime during the 2010 offseason you've got a pretty good chance at being able to turn that TE into a decent player, courtesy of some team looking to clear cap room to get in on the 2010 free agent signings. That would be a much better return than just using your TE to take on Finley plus some cash.
    yeah, that makes a lot of sense. TE's that are valid after post season 2010 might be worth pure gold, when the free agency race 2010 starts.
    maybe the whole TE trade idea wasn't that good at all. let's keep it simple and look who might take Fin+?(Matt, Ian, MW, RM)
    one thing for sure: Spurs have at least one odd man out at the wings, same in the frontcourt. as much as I like the Bogans signing, I really would hate it when it causes the cut of either Malik or MW.

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    According to reports it is not immediately clear whether Bogans’ contract is fully guaranteed or if it is a make-good deal for camp. Malik, Marcus, and Bogans will fight for the last 2 remaining spots at the wing.
    Anything is possible, but 1.03M for one season seems like too specific a number to not be clear.

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    There's nothing wrong with Camby. There's plenty wrong with your notion that the Clippers are going to want to trade him to us for Finley, Bonner and Mason.
    Actually, there are things wrong with Camby.

    He's not a very disciplined defender. He's not great defending on the ball. His mid-range shot isn't very good, but he shoots volume there anyways. And he's got a of an injury history.

    Now, he'd definitely be a nice fit next to Duncan. But some need to tone down their erection for him. Compared to Dyess, he's an upgrade as a starter, but not a huge one.

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    Actually, there are things wrong with Camby.

    He's not a very disciplined defender. He's not great defending on the ball. His mid-range shot isn't very good, but he shoots volume there anyways. And he's got a of an injury history.

    Now, he'd definitely be a nice fit next to Duncan. But some need to tone down their erection for him. Compared to Dyess, he's an upgrade as a starter, but not a huge one.
    Most importantly why would the Clippers want to trade his expiring contract for more?? Makes no sense...

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    Anything is possible, but 1.03M for one season seems like too specific a number to not be clear.
    That's the number for a 6 yr vet minimum contract. It may be guaranteed in all, in part, or not at all.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q11

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    Most importantly why would the Clippers want to trade his expiring contract for more?? Makes no sense...
    Because they are the Clippers

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    Bonner + Fin and maybe somebody else for Noce

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    "No, I'm afraid that I just blue myself".

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    So, no time at the 2 for George Hill. hmmm.

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    That's the number for a 6 yr vet minimum contract. It may be guaranteed in all, in part, or not at all.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q11

    Gotcha -- thanks for setting me straight.

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    "No, I'm afraid that I just blue myself".
    So, no time at the 2 for George Hill. hmmm.
    stop posting

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    Not a fan of Arrested Development or of George Hill getting time at his natural position?
    Explain yourself...
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