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  1. #76
    at the time, I seriously would rather have eaten a pound of fresh dog than see Peyton win that ring. Looking back now, I've got more respect for Peyton and the Colts than any other Pats rival, so I'm happy he got his ring.
    I know the feeling. I just didn't want to see Rex Grossman with a ring.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    It would have sucked to see Rex win a ring. He could be an analyst on ESPN like Trent Dilfer 10 years from now and talk about what it takes to be a Super Bowl champion QB

  3. #78
    I never root for any team I hate. I wanted Elway to end his career with none.
    I used to "hate" the Colts but I don't anymore. It is probably because Manning is my second favorite QB behind Brady. I hate all our divisional rivals, the Broncos for the years they owned us, and the Steelers. That is for the AFC.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Peyton > Brady

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    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    Stick 'em in the mouth!

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    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    I never root for any team I hate. I wanted Elway to end his career with none.
    Wouldn't you have been like three years old when Elway won his Super Bowls?

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    I was 8 and 9 when he won them. I already learned to hate the Chiefs and Broncos by then.

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    He isn't the greatest QB but he is a great one.

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    Pop took his brain back. xellos88330's Avatar
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    Joe Montana

  10. #85
    I only saw Joe play at the end of his career. But Peyton is clearly the best I have ever seen play.

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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    at the time, I seriously would rather have eaten a pound of fresh dog than see Peyton win that ring. Looking back now, I've got more respect for Peyton and the Colts than any other Pats rival, so I'm happy he got his ring.
    This.

    But honestly, I've also got more respect since he finally gutted out a win in the playoffs. I don't hate him or disrespect him... as much.

  12. #87
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    I'm not sure if I "hate" the Colts. I mean, I don't want to see them beat us, and I hate losing to them. But I don't want them to go, say, 4-12, like I do the Dolphins or Jets.

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    Great as Peyton is, there's still no denying that the guy is a world-class choker. The only clutch performance I can think of is the last Championship Game against the Patriots. He sucked ass in the Super Bowl but lucky for him, Rex Grossman sucked more ass.
    He's had his bad moments, but he's also had his great clutch moments. Did you expect him to throw 400 yards and 4 tds against the Bears in the SB? If the Saints would've made it he would have.

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    What is even funnier is his "great route running" and "best hands of all time" didn't do for him in the playoffs. I think people most definitely could make an argument that Marvin Harrison is amongst the most overrated players of all time, and there isn't a doubt in my mind that guys like Derrick Mason, Hines Ward, or others could put up the same kinds of numbers. , Reggie Wayne is doing it right now. Randy Moss and T.O. would have been hauling in 20+ TDs every other year.

    Harrison = overrated.

    Ward


    Wayne is up there with Harrison, but he's never caught 140 balls while having another legit #1 reciever on his other side.

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    Wayne is up there with Harrison, but he's never caught 140 balls while having another legit #1 reciever on his other side.
    Wayne > Harrison

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    BOlieve manufan10's Avatar
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    Stats aside, what makes him the best QB ever is his ability to read a defense before the snap and command his offense. I have never seen a QB pretty much be the OC on the field and nail almost any pass imaginable. He has a great football IQ, great arm and is more mobile that he is given credit for. He will have a couple more rings before he retires and there will be no argument.
    This.

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    The fact that Manninng could arguably be the greatest QB ever, makes me think that the NFL needs its Michael Jordan.

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    The fact that Manninng could arguably be the greatest QB ever, makes me think that the NFL needs its Michael Jordan.
    They do. His name is Jamarcus Russell.

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    The fact that Manninng could arguably be the greatest QB ever, makes me think that the NFL needs its Michael Jordan.
    Only the NBA and NHL can have those figures. (And both do. Jordan and Gretzky.)

    Baseball and football rely too much on teamwork for their to be one player who obviously dominates above all. (That's why Babe Ruth is considered the 'best' player... he was one of the greatest hitters of all time, and a great pitcher for awhile too.)

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    Only the NBA and NHL can have those figures. (And both do. Jordan and Gretzky.)

    Baseball and football rely too much on teamwork for their to be one player who obviously dominates above all. (That's why Babe Ruth is considered the 'best' player... he was one of the greatest hitters of all time, and a great pitcher for awhile too.)
    I can't think of any other sport (well maybe baseball with the pitcher but I don't really follow baseball that much) where a team relies so much in only one player. You can have the best players in an NFL team but if your QB sucks, chances are that 90% of the time your team isn't going to win.

  21. #96
    Brett Favre is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Or should I say, Michael Jordan in the Brett Favre of the NBA.

  22. #97
    ^Michael Jordan would never have a 29 interception season.

  23. #98
    Greatest QB of all time. He's just unreal.
    Nope.

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    No one has run the full package of the Single Wing. When they start really implementing the passing portions, it will bloom. To defend the run section, you need gap discipline, MAJOR gap discipline. That means if you master the passing part, there is no team in the league that can run the dime DB package on you. If they do, you run 10-15 yard chunks on them. Then, when they finally start honoring the line of scrimmage, you pass into a sparse 4 man DB backfield. It's one formation where you can run ANY kind of play: a dive, a pitch, a short pass, a long bomb. There's no tip off, and you're not committed to the called play. How do you set up a defense when the formation is the same on every play? The Single Wing FEEDS upon over aggressive defenses, and that's what's in vogue today. It forces you to play a very vanilla, plain conventional defense.
    Last edited by exstatic; 09-23-2009 at 09:01 PM.

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