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Manu, cause he has blood in his vains
Over the last decade, who is according to you the most accomplished international player?
Pau résumé:
1 NBA le (09, Lakers)
1 ABC Liga le (01, Barcelona)
1 Gold medal at the FIBA World Championship (06)
1 Silver medal at the 08 Olympic Games
1 Gold medal at the FIBA Euro (09)
2 Silver medal at the FIBA Euro (03, 07)
1 Bronze medal at the FIBA Euro (01)
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2 times NBA Allstar (06, 09)
NBA Rookie of the year (02)
MVP of the FIBA World Championship (06)
MVP of the FIBA Euro (09)
Manu résumé:
3 NBA les (03,05,07, Spurs)
1 Euroleague le (01, Bologna)
1 Serie A le (01, Bologna)
1 Gold medal at the 04 Olympic Games
1 Bronze medal at the 08 Olympic Games
1 Silver medal at the World Championship (02)
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1 time NBA Allstar (05)
MVP of the 04 Olympic Games
MVP of the Euroleague (01)
NBA 6th man of the year (08)
Last edited by romain.star; 09-24-2009 at 08:24 AM.
Manu, cause he has blood in his vains
If we're going solely on les, I think you missed quite some on both sides...
Copa del Re? Italian Cup? Under 19 World Championship?
The list would have been too long so I've just listed the main ones
Pau was very impressive at the european champion European Championship.Manu, cause he has blood in his vains
I think Manu is a very good player and I prefer to see Manu on a ground but actually Pau is more efficient. It will be very difficult to beat the Lakers if Pau keep on playing like that
Manu, he singlehandedly carried Argentina to gold medal at the olympic(named MVP of the olympic games), spain has never beat USA while Manu beat USA twice.
As Long As Manu Is Healthy And playing At The Top of his Game, He Is Almost As Good as anyone. He Even Outplays Kobe AT TIMES During Games.
Sorry but 2002, 04 Team USA <<< 2008 Team USA
04 Team USA defeat Spain in the olympics and Argentina defeat that team.
But Spain did defeat USA in 2002 fiba World Championship
What would be interesting is if you prefer manu or pau in the spurs.
I think a combo Gasol Duncan would be awsome
both winners. But come back when Pau carries his team through at least an entire playoff series on way to the championship.
but they are very close. Pau is smarter than even Manu. Dude is sharp. Could easily be a GM in the future.
If we're talking accomplishments then Manu hands down, right now Pau.
Pau or Manu? Both combined are not equivalent to what Dirk's achieved through last decade. The MVP trophy doesn't seem to be something that will come to either Manu or Pau, while Dirk can easily coattail a ring if he wants just like Gary Payton did in 06.
Dirk is the best all-round big man since Larry Bird retired, btw.
in 02 WC argentina got robbed of the gold.
in 06 WC Spain was lucky a nocioni three went in and out at the end.
Argentina doesnt take the FIBA americas tourney as serious as spain does the euro. It just isnt as prestigious a tournament and a lot of Gasol's les come from there. I cant even remember the last time manu played the FIBA america (03?)
also, I'd argue Spain is deeper than Argentina.
head to head, gasol will always have the 7ft advantage. a player that size with those skills will almost always be more valuable than a 6'6 guard.
The thread has nothing to do with Dirk.
this thread sucks
Manu.
More accomplished player would be Manu, and I think convincingly.
The better player right now is a tougher question to answer.
Right now? to me, it's a no brainer !
Right now, Pau is the 2nd best player of the NBA champ, he is Euro Champ and Euro MVP
plus the last time I saw the REAL Manu on the floor, Garnett was still ringless
but we don't know for sure. If he starts playing like October-December 2007 (last time he was 100%), then he's still better.
agree. it's not a "nobrainer" cause we don't know how manu is gonna come back
I would agree that Pau Gasol is a better player than an injured Manu Ginobili.
My comment that it's a tough question to answer as to which is the better player now was predicated on Manu being healthy. And, even then, I didn't say it wouldn't be Gasol. I said it would be tough to answer.
The "most accomplished" intl player as you put it, is Manu. There's really nothing to debate here. Its a fact.
But the best int'l player (although it pains me to admit it) is probably Nowitzki.
My bad then... it would be tough to answer indeed
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