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  1. #226
    Dirk Administers THE SHOCKER LEONARD's Avatar
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    I made a mistake. Point LEONARD. Want to make out now?

    I don't have time to search for the picture of yourself that you posted.. Just repost it.
    In 2006 when I posted pictures from Pride in LV I was 6' 215 lbs...which is the same that I am now only a little leaner. Such a fatass indeed.

    I agree Page ed up, but wouldn't you rather see Kimbo fight someone of caliber? If he wins, it's dramatic, if he loses, then we know he didn't really belong there..
    Roy Nelson is exactly who I'd want to see him fight as a fan...

    My point was that Rampage f'd up once again and is making terrible decisions for his team...

    I never pretended to know anything about him. I said he looks out of shape, and that knowing nothing else about him or his background, he looks like a guy i wouldnt be that affraid of

    See the trend here?....sure ALL of them (ok accept maybe the big tie black guy) could probably kick my ass...but i wouldnt know that until i was on the ground regreting my decision.
    You said...

    I know im probably wrong, and he probably has (or had?) some great skills at some point, but wow...he just looks like an out of shape, beer drinking NASCAR fan.
    so I pointed out the mistake you were making by assuming, based on his looks, that he showed up on the show any different than he always looks when he fights. You questioned that maybe he had skills previously and had lost them...which isn't the case.

    I'm also laughing that you said Butterbean could "probably" kick your ass...

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    Smell The Wallet Soul_Patch's Avatar
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    I'm also laughing that you said Butterbean could "probably" kick your ass...

    Why, when you have no idea who i actually am, or how well i can actually fight? Assumptions work both ways eh?


    But you are right, my ass is so out of shape right now, im pretty sure anyone could kick it...but id probably fight butterbean, just to say i did it. Being he is like 5'10" 415lbs...id say i had a good chance he would have a heartattack before he could catch my ass to hit me...

  3. #228
    Dirk Administers THE SHOCKER LEONARD's Avatar
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    He hasn't had a heart attack in any of his dozens of boxing or MMA fights yet...so you can probably rule that out...but rule in Butterbean by KO...

    True, I don't know you...but it doesn't matter. Unless we have a pro fighter posting here??

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    Butterbean professional boxing record is 77 wins with 58 knockouts, 7 losses and 4 draws.

    No matter how you slice it. The guy can fight

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    It is amazing to me that someone who is under 6 ft tall and over 400lbs can move, much less fight...freak of nature.

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    I stood next to him in Vegas and could not believe how solid the dude was...his neck was ridiculous. Yea, he's a fat bas ...but he's also strong as an ox and can take a good punch. I'll have to run his BMI later and see if he's IN SHAPE or not...

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    ^^ lol...you don' let it go!


    Hey BMI is an indicator for almost all things "in shape" according to the real world. Military - BMI, Life Insurance - BMI, Sports - BMI, etc...you get the point?

    whether that is right or not, ill let you be the judge, as im on my way to Austin.

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    ^^ lol...you don' let it go!


    Hey BMI is an indicator for almost all things "in shape" according to the real world. Military - BMI, Life Insurance - BMI, Sports - BMI, etc...you get the point?

    whether that is right or not, ill let you be the judge, as im on my way to Austin.
    LOL, BMI doesn't differentiate between body fat and lean muscle mass.. So that means, according to BMI Schwarzenegger, in his prime 6'2 about 240 pds, was out of shape because it doesn't calculate muscle mass..

    The 7 time Mr Olympia according to BMI is out of shape..

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    And his cardio was bad.
    Once again - muscles [cells] needs more oxygen then fat [cells].

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    Episode 2 fight was a ing joke.

    And btw Roy can fight. His cardio is better than most of the guys on the show, despite his size.

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    Seeking the quiet mind desflood's Avatar
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    I finally saw Ep. 2 tonight. I could easily see how the Brit won the fight. Shivers' entire first round score rested upon a solitary takedown, but McSweeney actually landed most of his strikes. The second round could have been even, but McSweeney pushed forward, was the aggressor. Wes did nothing but try to catch his breath the entire round.

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    LOL, BMI doesn't differentiate between body fat and lean muscle mass.. So that means, according to BMI Schwarzenegger, in his prime 6'2 about 240 pds, was out of shape because it doesn't calculate muscle mass..

    The 7 time Mr Olympia according to BMI is out of shape..
    I agree its pretty useless...but strangely enough, it is what is used to judge for a lot of things.

    I was considering joining the ANG in January for a change of pace, and sort of an incintive to get in shape and do something. They wanted me to drop weight to around 185 to 215. I told the recruiter, even when i was in my best shape, playing college baseball, i was 230lb. I dont think i was under 220 since about 9th grade. No way thats going to happen. He said, "sorry "

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    Dirk Administers THE SHOCKER LEONARD's Avatar
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    The lowest I've been in 10 yrs is high 190's earlier this year after cutting for a few months. I'm 215-218 now...probably going to push it up to 230 or so this winter, assuming I keep lifting like I have been. Then cut back down in the spring to around 215 again. That's the plan anyway...

    I would look like death if I was to be in the normal range according to the BMI charts...

    I think the only use for BMI is for somebody that wants to be skinny with little muscle mass...if you pack on any significant muscle at all, you'll be up into the overweight range...

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    I was 245 or so in April and i'm almost 6'2"
    now i came down to 220 and I think 10 to 15 lbs would be nice till the end of a year but winter is coming and it will be more dificult to do it.

    But i need to get rid of some fat. i can't stand my physicque

  17. #242
    I finally saw Ep. 2 tonight. I could easily see how the Brit won the fight. Shivers' entire first round score rested upon a solitary takedown, but McSweeney actually landed most of his strikes. The second round could have been even, but McSweeney pushed forward, was the aggressor. Wes did nothing but try to catch his breath the entire round.
    Really?

    I just can't see how McSweeney won the first. McSweeney got taken down and every time there was an exchange, if that's what they'd like to call it, Shivers' power was enough to deter him and get the better of him.-- They weren't the most clean of shots, but that's why he was so hesitant to keep coming in despite Shivers being even more gassed than him. --

    The second round was more of the same in my eyes, a game of pinball where Shivers would hit the dude, try to catch his breath, and then proceed to do the same for the majority of the round. But then McSweeney started with the leg-kicks and the sub attempt to finish, that won him the round.

    I get that McSweeney was 'technically' the one pushing the fight and moving forward -- I hope I never have to cite this fight as an example of someone pushing the fight.. what an abortion -- but all the effective strikes and damage were absorbed by McSweeney. Shivers apparently got docked points for being gassed and looking like anything but a well-conditioned athlete.

    Poor judging or not, it was a pretty pathetic display for TUF standards and I definitely expected more from McSweeney.

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    McSweeney is a punk...
    http://www. e.com/blog/war-of-words/87193

    I'm pullin' for ties...hope he does well after the BS he's taken...

  19. #244
    McSweeney is a punk...
    http://www. e.com/blog/war-of-words/87193

    I'm pullin' for ties...hope he does well after the BS he's taken...
    For someone who looked like total ass in his fight, gassed out and was handed a close decision, Mcsweeney sure has a big mouth. He's a heavyweight, from what i saw, he'd get slapped by almost every contender at Light Heavyweight

    What a clown..

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    BTW it never ceases to amaze me how the Brits talk. I can't understand a word they say, it's like they speak in chinese..

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    For someone who looked like total ass in his fight, gassed out and was handed a close decision, Mcsweeney sure has a big mouth.
    Exactly what I was thinking...

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    BTW it never ceases to amaze me how the Brits talk. I can't understand a word they say, it's like they speak in chinese..

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    Poor judging or not, it was a pretty pathetic display for TUF standards and I definitely expected more from McSweeney.

    Agreed, this is probably the worst TUF fight I've seen.

  24. #249
    McSweeney is a punk...
    http://www. e.com/blog/war-of-words/87193

    I'm pullin' for ties...hope he does well after the BS he's taken...
    For someone who looked like total ass in his fight, gassed out and was handed a close decision, Mcsweeney sure has a big mouth. He's a heavyweight, from what i saw, he'd get slapped by almost every contender at Light Heavyweight

    What a clown..
    I'm unable to view the video but judging by the comments and the tease that had him talking mess to 'Page in defense of Rashad for next week's episode, this dude needs to check himself.

    I had the same reaction dbreiden had after viewing his antics in light of such a piss-poor first outing.

    I'm hoping to see him Bisping'd.

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    Motivation for me... Stringer_Bell's Avatar
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    BTW it never ceases to amaze me how the Brits talk. I can't understand a word they say, it's like they speak in chinese..
    Yes, because it's totally kosher to talk trash about one group of people at the expensive of another group

    I'm all for fighters sticking up for the rights of little defenseless birds, but , man, no need to start nuthin' with a dude that doesn't look like he'll make it through the first round. I didn't think McSweeney was pulling until he was like "oh, I'll knock you out" when it's been proven the only thing he does is gas out. POOR FORM!

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