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    I like "Yellow Ledbetter" but don't give Pearl Jam too much credit for the song since they didn't really write the song. They basically slightly changed the music and added lyrics to a great Kenny Wayne Shepherd song called "While We Cry."

    considering Pearl Jam wrote Yellow Ledbetter during the original Ten sessions back in early 1990, I think Mike McCready wrote it well before Kenny Wayne. Mike has even said that the riff to YLB was written during his days in Love Chile, and he would play it on occasion just messing around during the Ten sessions. The song was all that one riff and that is why there are no official lyrics to it, because it was just Mike ing around and Ed just made up lyrics while mike was playing

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    Off He Goes is my favorite

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    Kenny Wayne Shepherd's song "While We Cry" is on his album "LEDBETTER Heights." He wrote the song and performed it long before the album. Ledbetter Heights is a neighborhood in Shreveport, Louisiana where Kenny grew up. Those things are not coincidence. Kenny wrote that riff long before "Yellow Ledbetter."

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    Kenny Wayne Shepherd's song "While We Cry" is on his album "LEDBETTER Heights." He wrote the song and performed it long before the album. Ledbetter Heights is a neighborhood in Shreveport, Louisiana where Kenny grew up. Those things are not coincidence. Kenny wrote that riff long before "Yellow Ledbetter."
    so you are telling me that a song that was played and record back around 1990 was stolen from a song that was recorded in 1995? It was stolen from someone who was not even famous outside of his own scene halfway across the country? That's about the biggest reach I have seen.

    And the Ledbetter is named after on of their friends in Chicago

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    oh and Kenny Wayne Shepherd was 17 in 1995, so he would have been 13 when Yellow Ledbetter was recorded...hardley long enough for him to preform it enough to get noticed to have a band steal it

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    If you weren't sure, Kenny Wayne was a musical prodigy who was performing very young. Yes, he was performing at the age of 13 already. And when you're that young and performing live with other blues and jazz professionals, you do get noticed.

    How many blues riffs did Michael McCready write? Why is the song called "Yellow Ledbetter?"

    Hey, I don't know for sure. I'll admit that much. But, too much coincidence for something not to be up.

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    I did some other research reading as well, and I guess I'm wrong based on what I've read. So I apologize. It appears that Kenny Wayne said in some interview that it in fact is coincidence that the two songs sound the same. Further, I guess both actually wrote the riffs in honor of Jimi Hendrix' song "Little Wing" and at least Kenny also was influenced by SRV's "Lenny." All this time, I thought Pearl Jam was actually paying respects to Kenny Wayne. How weird of a coincidence though that they named the song "Yellow LEDBETTER" and Kenny's first album was "Ledbetter Heights." I thought that was the give-away that Pearl Jam was kind of saluting him with the le.

    I was wrong. I apologize to Pearl Jam and to Thunder Dan.

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    If you weren't sure, Kenny Wayne was a musical prodigy who was performing very young. Yes, he was performing at the age of 13 already. And when you're that young and performing live with other blues and jazz professionals, you do get noticed.

    How many blues riffs did Michael McCready write? Why is the song called "Yellow Ledbetter?"

    Hey, I don't know for sure. I'll admit that much. But, too much coincidence for something not to be up.
    but you are saying that they stole the name of the song from an album that was recorded 5 years after they already recorded and named the song


    1989
    Kenny Wayne writes the song and preforms is at the age of 12 (or possibly before this) writes the riff, preforms it enough to get noticed by a newly formed band in Seattle (K.W.S. resides in Louisiana as a 12 year old)

    1991
    Pearl Jam steals the song written by a 12 year old in Louisiana and names it after that kid's first album which won't come out for another 5 years. At no time during the song to the words "Yellow" or "Ledbetter" appear so this is just a case of Pearl Jam really being unlucky

    1992
    The stolen song reachs #21 on the Billboard charts as an unreleased song off the Jeremy single and KWS, now a 15 year old, does not even claim to have his song stolen


    actually, now that I think about it, Kenny Wayne stole it from pearl Jam as the song sounds similar, and Kenny's album is named after the song.....that makes alot more sense if you ask me

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    I did some other research reading as well, and I guess I'm wrong based on what I've read. So I apologize. It appears that Kenny Wayne said in some interview that it in fact is coincidence that the two songs sound the same. Further, I guess both actually wrote the riffs in honor of Jimi Hendrix' song "Little Wing" and at least Kenny also was influenced by SRV's "Lenny." All this time, I thought Pearl Jam was actually paying respects to Kenny Wayne. How weird of a coincidence though that they named the song "Yellow LEDBETTER" and Kenny's first album was "Ledbetter Heights." I thought that was the give-away that Pearl Jam was kind of saluting him with the le.

    I was wrong. I apologize to Pearl Jam and to Thunder Dan.
    it's cool, I just like busting balls

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    LOL dan he said he was sorry

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    LOL dan he said he was sorry
    I already typed all that out and wasnt letting it go to waste. I'm not a big Yellow Ledbetter man myself so I would be all for finding out it was stolen

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    To be honest, I didn't know all the dates of the recordings and releases of the two songs. But I did know Kenny was a child musical prodigy performing very young and had a reason to be linked with the word Ledbetter. It was plenty of assumptions on my part, but that's what I did figure, for like the past 12 years or so. Never did research on it until today. Just figured that was what it was. So stupid me for those assumptions. I just listened to SRV's "Lenny" and yeah that has to be as big an influence as "Little Wing."

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    To be honest, I didn't know all the dates of the recordings and releases of the two songs. But I did know Kenny was a child musical prodigy performing very young and had a reason to be linked with the word Ledbetter. It was plenty of assumptions on my part, but that's what I did figure, for like the past 12 years or so. Never did research on it until today. Just figured that was what it was. So stupid me for those assumptions. I just listened to SRV's "Lenny" and yeah that has to be as big an influence as "Little Wing."
    no big deal. I didn't know charlie sheen and emilio estevez were brothers until a couple months ago

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