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    What, Israel is going to fly over Iraq to get to Iran?

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    What, Israel is going to fly over Iraq to get to Iran?
    What do you think?

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    I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

    Is Israel going to fly over Iraq?

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    I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

    Is Israel going to fly over Iraq?
    What do you think though, you have to have some sort of inclination of what you think they might do.

    I think they have the balls to do it and would the US shoot them down?

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    I think they have the balls to do it and would the US shoot them down?
    Shoot them down? They'd likely get permission from the U.S.

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    Shoot them down? They'd likely get permission from the U.S.
    Do you really think this administration would give them the green light to do that?

    Lets hope this guy isnt doing any advising.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133515

    Zbigniew Brzezinski, who enthusiastically campaigned for U.S. President Barack Obama, has called on the president to shoot down Israeli planes if they attack Iran. “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?” said the former national security advisor to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter in an interview with the Daily Beast. Brzezinski, who served in the Carter administration from 1977 to 1981, is currently a professor of American foreign policy at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in Maryland.

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    What do you think though, you have to have some sort of inclination of what you think they might do.
    That's why I have trouble seeing its happening.

    Maybe some of you geopolitical military experts can tell me how this would work.

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    That's why I have trouble seeing its happening.

    Maybe some of you geopolitical military experts can tell me how this would work.
    I would be willing to bet they would do it. I think they see it as not having much choice if they think the US/UK/France/etc aren't going to do anything militarily to Iran. Lose/lose for them either way. If they do it they'll be condemned by the UN (not really a big deal) but I think other allies might be a bit more aggressive on Israel by doing sanctions/etc. Not to mention possible terrorist attacks on civilians in Israel by Hezzie/etc.

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    so israel should dictate what the US, France and UK should do?

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    so israel should dictate what the US, France and UK should do?
    Why would Israel dictate to what they should do? UK/US/etc arent facing the possible use of a nuke on their soil, they have to take whatever action they think necessary.

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    We've known about Iran's secret 2nd site for years, this has more to do with new assessments that Iran is getting closer to the possibility of having enough enriched uranium to build a bomb and the technological capabilities of doing so....this talk of Iran having the possibility of putting a bomb on a missile is bull - it takes years to modify a nuclear weapon to make it missile capable...

    ....If Iran wanted to destroy Israel it could have done so years ago with biological/chemical weapons.....so the real threat isn't Iran attacking Israel, although that's what you'll hear in the M$M and wing-nut news...

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    this is one of the dumbest arguments of modern times.

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    Chump,

    I believe Saudi Arabia will probably look the other way while the Israelis fly over their air space en route to Iran.

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    Any attack would be the most counterproductive action you could possibly take and would ensure that you will not stop an Iranian nuclear program. As it is you're likely not going to stop it because of the way its viewed in that country (EVERYONE wants it) but if Israel is stupid enough to attempt this (is it even within their flight range? I would doubt it) then they'd be ing the US fairly badly. Although, they've ed us repeatedly in the past and we still do whatever they want, so who knows if that even matters.

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    Of course Israel will take action...they've been testing Iranian radar capabilities in the occupied regions and they finally think they have it right.....so, they've only got a certain period of 'go-time' until Iran makes the argument moot....

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    Also, the political atmosphere in Israel makes it very likely that the Prime Minister, although not a Lukid, will need to take action out of 'political neccessity'

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    The head of Iran's nuclear program said he was "shocked" by the West's angry reaction to news that his country is opening a second uranium enrichment facility, which he said was disclosed a year earlier than required by the U.N. nuclear watchdog, state television reported Saturday....

    New Iran uranium enrichment site raises concerns

    ...

    The Iranians claim to have withdrawn from an agreement with the IAEA requiring them to notify the agency about their intent to build any new nuclear facilities and to be subject only to a six-month notification requirement. Ahmadinejad said Friday the plant was 18 months from being operational.

    But the IAEA says Tehran cannot unilaterally withdraw from that bilateral agreement.

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    Yahoo

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    Chump,

    I believe Saudi Arabia will probably look the other way while the Israelis fly over their air space en route to Iran.
    I see that's what happened when they bombed the Iraqi reactor back in 1981. I don't know the range of today's Israeli jets loaded with whatever bunker busters would be needed for the job; it seems like quite a long flight even to Bushehr, to say nothing of the inland sites like Qom.

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    Pretty sure Israel has the range to strike targets. Their deep strike F-15s range at ~1100 nautical miles with ordnance and they are capable of refuel from aircraft that have 2000-4000+ nautical mile range. Fighters would take off with low fuel and refuel a few hundred miles out to full. They make it easy. I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to that news.

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    time to bomb in 3, 2, 1

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    fuuuuuuuuuuu here comes $10 gas

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    Shoot them down? They'd likely get permission from the U.S.
    Are you joking? They wouldn't need permission, they'd just do it. We wouldn't shoot them down. Politicians would denounce them, but the military would smile and say "wish our CiC had the balls to let us do that."

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    so israel should dictate what the US, France and UK should do?
    Israel has stepped up and attacked when it comes to attacking nations with enrichment technology, that also endorse terrorism. I would be surprised if they don't attack. I think they'll just wait and let as much money and resources go in as they can, waiting until just before it's operational.

    I also predict they won't ask our permission. They'll just tell us their flight plan so we aren't surprised. When their birds are on the radar, our people will say, "It's no problem. It's just the Israeli's on a training exercise."

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    Why would Israel dictate to what they should do? UK/US/etc arent facing the possible use of a nuke on their soil, they have to take whatever action they think necessary.
    Absolutely.

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    this talk of Iran having the possibility of putting a bomb on a missile is bull - it takes years to modify a nuclear weapon to make it missile capable...

    ....If Iran wanted to destroy Israel it could have done so years ago with biological/chemical weapons.....so the real threat isn't Iran attacking Israel, although that's what you'll hear in the M$M and wing-nut news...
    Would you please stop talking out your ass. It really stinks.

    It doesn't take to put a nuke on a rocket.

    Weaponizing chemical and biological agents is harder. Israel's citizenry is also prepared with protective gear.

    Iran probably wouldn't use the nuke themselves, but likely find a Jihadist to carry it in and set it off in a large city.

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