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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Has Obama had a real job before this one? Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending. "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."
    In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often in the 90s Palin's tenure is noted for her independence from big oil companies, while still promoting resource development. Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska. Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded thirty-five appointments made by Murkowski in the last hour of his administration, including the appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff Jim Clark to the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority. Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans $100-a-month energy debit cards. She also proposed providing grants to electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates. She subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas taxPalin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples.
    Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples.
    Shortly after becoming governor, Palin canceled a contract for the construction on an 11-mile (18-kilometer) gravel road outside of Juneau to a mine
    In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history.At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.

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    but she quit before her term ended.. do you support quitters?

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    but she quit before her term ended.. do you support quitters?
    After all the slander have been dispelled, that's all you have.

    Well guess what. I think she made the right decision for two very good reasons. I have stated these in the past, but you are either too stupid or too partisan to care.

    Do I need to repeat myself?

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    but she quit before her term ended.. do you support quitters?
    But she did the job when she had the job. Can you say that about Obama in the Senate? Did he really represent the people of Illinois while campaigning. How many times did he miss a vote or vote present? How many times was he there to hammer out and debate bills?

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    After all the slander have been dispelled, that's all you have.

    Well guess what. I think she made the right decision for two very good reasons. I have stated these in the past, but you are either too stupid or too partisan to care.

    Do I need to repeat myself?
    So someone is either stupid or partisan if they disagree with your justification of a quitter's motives?

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    So someone is either stupid or partisan if they disagree with your justification of a quitter's motives?
    So you remember my motives. What were they?

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    So you remember my motives. What were they?
    Your motives for defending a quitter?

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    Your motives for defending a quitter?
    If that's what you wish to call them.

    Stop stalling. Do you know why I support her resignation or not?

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    If that's what you wish to call them.
    I think you need to re-read my original post.

    Stop stalling. Do you know why I support her resignation or not?
    Sure I do. I disagree. Does that make me stupid or partisan or just both?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    But she did the job when she had the job. Can you say that about Obama in the Senate? Did he really represent the people of Illinois while campaigning. How many times did he miss a vote or vote present? How many times was he there to hammer out and debate bills?
    ok so he's not a quitter and she is..good luck with that in 2012..

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    "she did the job when she had the job"

    other than sticking the energy co's for higher royalties, which just happened to enrich her family $20K+/year, what jobs did she do?

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    I think you need to re-read my original post.
    Because someone who can't handle an interview with Katie Couric would do well in pressure situations. I love the thinking on that. Oh and then when another pressure situation arose she just up and quit. I don't understand how people think Palin would be even serviceable as President. It baffles me.
    I disagree with her not handling an interview that was edited. Did you watch the unedited video I linked at least twice in the past now? As for my reasons, I don't believe you remember. If you did, you could say you didn't believe me, but I have credible reasons. If you honestly disagree that my reasons for supporting her resignation, then how can you claim it's out of partisanship? I would apply the same standards to a liberal if they resigned under the same cir stances.

    I think you're lying. You don't remember why I supported her resignation. Humor me. Tell me why I supported it.

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    After all the slander have been dispelled, that's all you have.

    Well guess what. I think she made the right decision for two very good reasons. I have stated these in the past, but you are either too stupid or too partisan to care.

    Do I need to repeat myself?
    oh i remember it was tough on her family and she got out before things got real hot... fine leader!

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    oh i remember it was tough on her family and she got out before things got real hot... fine leader!
    That wasn't my two reasons for accepting it. Try again. The family is a third reason to consider.

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    That wasn't my two reasons for accepting it. Try again. The family is a third reason to consider.
    it was the partian with hunts and she didn't want to waste AK resources to defend herself... if she's afraid of AK dems what would the bad guys do to her?

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    So someone is either stupid or partisan if they disagree with your justification of a quitter's motives?
    This one. The original post you just responded to.

    I disagree with her not handling an interview that was edited. Did you watch the unedited video I linked at least twice in the past now? As for my reasons, I don't believe you remember. If you did, you could say you didn't believe me, but I have credible reasons. If you honestly disagree that my reasons for supporting her resignation, then how can you claim it's out of partisanship?
    She quit because she couldn't handle the job. How is this refutable?
    I would apply the same standards to a liberal if they resigned under the same cir stances.
    Funny.

    I think you're lying. You don't remember why I supported her resignation. Humor me. Tell me why I supported it.
    LAWSUITS!!! AGGHHHHH!!! Too many. Can't. Go. On. Must. Resign.

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    it was the partian with hunts and she didn't want to waste AK resources to defend herself... if she's afraid of AK dems what would the bad guys do to her?
    At least you're close.

    Yes on the waste of Alaska resources.

    My second reason was it was preferable to already have her choice of an in bent in place before the next election.

    Shasta's reasons following yours are really hyped. At least you are being honest. Thanks.

    As for those attacking her, I made a clear distinction why it wouldn't be the same distraction as president. Remember why by chance?

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    My second reason was it was preferable to already have her choice of an in bent in place before the next election.
    Then I guess all politicians who don't plan on seeking a second term should just quit half-way through. Make it all working people. Hey, I don't plan on working at my job into May of next year. I might as well just quit now right?

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    Well, at least she is finding some use for herself. She's famous enough to at least bring some attention to the Fed, but I find it curious she wouldnt state these beliefs while in office.

    Thats conviction...you betcha.

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    palin supporters-willing to subs ute government subordination for corporate subordination.

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    "the government policies at the root of the problems"

    The govt gave the financial sector the policies the financial sector wanted (kill Glass-Steagal, forbidding regulation of derivatives, non-enforcement of federal loan regulations, non-policing of predatory lenders, etc).

    Why doesn't she go after the real culprits?
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    When a government is so permeable to special interests, you ought to go after the government. The alternative would be to exterminate the human race.

    (I don't completely agree with Ron Paul et all stance that the Fed is the root of all evil, btw - they seem to forget there were bubbles and financial crisis before the FED or even the existence of fiduciary money.)

    By the way, how exactly would Glass-Steagal (which was repeealed by Bill Clinton) would have prevented the crisis? Regulations are always great to prevent the causes of the last crisis, but they generally don't work on preventing the next one.
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    When a government is so permeable to special interests, you ought to go after the government. The alternative would be to exterminate the human race.
    sounds like a movie poster theme.

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    "the central bank is primarily to blame"

    No, it isn't. Fed inflated the housing/commodity bubble with low rates, but it was the banksters who pumped up the derivatives/CDS/CDO market into the 10s of fake $Ts.
    Because there was too much liquidity in the market caused by the Fed's monetary policies.

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    Because there was too much liquidity in the market caused by the Fed's monetary policies.
    exactly. It's like giving a 2 year old a cookie and expecting them not to eat it after you told them they could eat it, or in our govt's case, told them they should eat it.

    When money is too cheap, after all the safe investments are gone, people have to go to the risky ones to get the same level of return. That is why cheap money leads to malinvestment.

    Though I guess BD is right in the sense that since the banks themselves make up the FED they're giving themselves the cookie.

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