Excellent point. If Chris Paul can make the list based solely on his work over the last 4 years of the decade certainly Gary Payton deserves consideration for his work over the first 4 years.
All this unwarranted Nash love is what led to MVPs that can never be taken back.
Never forget.
Excellent point. If Chris Paul can make the list based solely on his work over the last 4 years of the decade certainly Gary Payton deserves consideration for his work over the first 4 years.
Why on Earth are Paul and Arenas so high? Paul hasn't done anything yet, and Arenas hasn't been that great most of this decade.I think the top 3 should be Kidd, Parker, and Billups.
Kidd has been consistent at being the best(not anymore) and I would put him at #1
Billups has had the complete package offense/defense/leadership/etc for a long time, I would put him at #2
Nash was great eventhough I dont think he deserved 2 MVPs he was incredible for about 4 years, so I would put him at #3
Parker at #4, yet he is still so young![]()
Jesus, you guys are some crazy homers.
Tony Parker is the third best player on his team and you want to talk about all of HIS accomplishments. Freaking morons.
When you think/talk about point guards from this decade, obviously its all about Kidd, Nash and everyone else.
It's Kidd, Nash and Billups. And nobody put Parker at #1 or #2 so do us a favor and read through the entire thread before posting will ya?
That doesn't preclude the fact that Tony is a top 5 PG. Yeah, that's how good Timmy and Manu are. Go ahead, make a similar list for wings and bigs and you'll see.
I'd also have to put in a plug for Gary Payton before Baron Davis, Andre Miller or Gilbert Arenas.
Sympathy pains from Nash's ankles being broken so much by Parker?
Aside from the main topic, I honestly think Steve nash would dream to have the same carreer as TP and have 3 rings, a finals MVP trophy and be a 3 times all star at age 27.
As much as I like Steve Nash, when he was 27, he was still putting 15.6 pts and 7.3 assists compared to the 22 and 6.9 TP had last year.
We all know Steve Nash' numbers exploded under D'antoni's run and gun system.
And you would dream to support a winning team like the spurs![]()
I agree Nash numbers were inflated by the run and gun. But Nash was also the perfect player for this system and he changed the face of that team.
Despite all his defensive shortcomings there is no doubt Nash is with Kidd a top 2 PG of the last decade.
IMO billups is 3rd and TP is 4th
Its true that with or without parker the spurs could still win games etc...
but with parker vs top10pg list, he actually outplays them h2h on most nights...
even though parker aint the franchise player or used to take on the responsibility of leading this team, but his also an important cog to the team..whether its 2nd or 3rd option.
sounds reasonable to me
Looking forward to this season and my hopes and predictions for TP:
- continue to mature and make smart decisions running the team
- more offensive options in RJ, healthy Manu, Mason at 2 guard, McDyess with his steady mid-range jumper..so maybe he might average 8 APGs
- maintain current scoring average.
- focus more on defense.. should have more energy sharing PG with Hill
- improve his 3-point accuracy
- keep improving that FT%.. PGs should be the best FT shooters on the team as the ball is in their hands most of the time and they will get fouled
Sounds good. TP and CP have the brightest futures in that list.
I don't think we'll ever see somebody average 8 assists in our system..if it happens, it means we're relying on somebody too much(see: Tony post-Duncan/Manu injuries)..too many playmakers on the perimeter + great ball movement..(Avery got close a few times, but the only 2 stars on the team were both post players/finishers inside, so a lot of pounding it in for dimes)..
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