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    If said judge hadn't already agreed to it.
    If the judge has the discretion to change his mind before sentencing, so be it. Sounds like such an action could be appealed.

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    By the way, this 13 year old girl

    she had already had sex 2 times before Polanski came along
    and she had been drunk several times
    and she had taken qualudes before.

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    By the way, this 13 year old girl

    she had already had sex 2 times before Polanski came along
    and she had been drunk several times
    and she had taken qualudes before.
    Had she been drugged against her will and anally raped before?

    By the way, Polanski pleaded guilty.

    If he wasn't guilty he shouldn't have pleaded guilty.

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    In her testimony, she said she took the qualude herself. Polanski took one, and then she took half a pill with her champagne. Wasn't against her will. And she also testified that she didn't protest when he put his penis in her anus.

    and Polanski pleaded guilty to having sex with a minor. Not drugging her against her will or whatever

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    So he pleaded guilty.

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    He pled guilty to unlawful sex with a minor. He didn't concede drugging her against her will or any of that

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    "I said, 'No, no. I don't want to go in there. No, I don't want to do this. No!', and then I didn't know what else to do."

    Yeah, she really wanted to have sex with him.

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    By the way, this 13 year old girl

    she had already had sex 2 times before Polanski came along
    and she had been drunk several times
    and she had taken qualudes before.
    OH. Then....

    never mind.

    So, basically I can anyone I want as long as they've;

    A: been ed before
    B: been drunk before
    C: taken drugs before

    This pretty much means I own your ass.

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    It is a sad world when what to do with a child rapist is even a matter of debate.

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    There is no debate. He's already arrested and is going to be sentenced to prison

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    Most of those young kids ask for it! walking around with their diaper half off.. ing tease!!

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    Having sex with 13 year old females has been happening for 99% of human history.

    In fact, even today in 2009, in many parts of Europe, Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East, when a girl has her first menstrual cycle, which is usually around 13-15, she gets married. She is considered ready at that point.

    Biologically, she is ready to have a child.

    In fact, that is what puberty is all about. The stage when a human is now biologically ready to begin mating. In girls, this means that at puberty, she now begins to become more attractive and SOMETIMES older men will be attracted to an 13-17 year old girl.

    It happens, and if you look at it BIOLOGICALLY, it is completely NORMAL. Biologically speaking, the human body WANTS to attract a mate. It is not sick.

    It's mainly in the USA that we put a huge stigma on this. As if it's somehow inhuman and 'sick' as you call it, to be aroused. It's just evolution hasn't caught up to our ideas of society.
    Just because a woman has reached menarche does not mean that she is ready to bear a child. Most women start their periods BEFORE ages 13-15 in this country, and if you think about the body of an 11 year old girl carrying a fetus to term, it just isn't practical on any level. The hips haven't widened enough, there hasn't been exposure to enough estrogen to make all parts stretchy that need to be stretchy. So no, just because a woman has a period does NOT mean that she is ready to have a child, it means that she CAN.

    But at any rate, it shouldn't matter what biology says in this case - Polanski had sex with a 13yo girl, and as long as she was below the age of consent, it is automatically rape. It does not matter what she said, or if she "seduced" him, or if she'd had sex before (which, legally, were previous rapes), what Polanski did was illegal and affected a child, and I have no problem with his crimes catching up to him.

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    It does not matter what she said
    She said "no" repeatedly. It's true it doesn't matter if she said "yes" but her saying "no" so many times is significant.

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    She said "no" repeatedly. It's true it doesn't matter if she said "yes" but her saying "no" so many times is significant.
    It's still the same charge, but I know what you mean. I'm sure it would affect sentencing.

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    It's still the same charge, but I know what you mean. I'm sure it would affect sentencing.
    Right, and if the penalties haven't changed, the very most he would have spent in prison would have been four years for the charge to which he pleaded guilty. Considering the original plea agreement, chances are it would have been much less.

    Dude was getting off easy.

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    Right, and if the penalties haven't changed, the very most he would have spent in prison would have been four years for the charge to which he pleaded guilty. Considering the original plea agreement, chances are it would have been much less.

    Dude was getting off easy.
    Yeah. Well, he'll be getting it long and hard in jail now.

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    The man still needs to own up to what he did. He has never done that. He pussied out on his plea agreement and left America. He should get whatever he was originally going to get and then probably some extra years for fleeing America in order to avoid jail time for his rape charge.

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    Having sex with 13 year old females has been happening for 99% of human history.

    In fact, even today in 2009, in many parts of Europe, Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East, when a girl has her first menstrual cycle, which is usually around 13-15, she gets married. She is considered ready at that point.

    Biologically, she is ready to have a child.

    In fact, that is what puberty is all about. The stage when a human is now biologically ready to begin mating. In girls, this means that at puberty, she now begins to become more attractive and SOMETIMES older men will be attracted to an 13-17 year old girl.

    It happens, and if you look at it BIOLOGICALLY, it is completely NORMAL. Biologically speaking, the human body WANTS to attract a mate. It is not sick.

    It's mainly in the USA that we put a huge stigma on this. As if it's somehow inhuman and 'sick' as you call it, to be aroused. It's just evolution hasn't caught up to our ideas of society.
    It is..... so you think its ok for a 40 year old to have sex with a 13 year old? WTF?!

    And dont come with the argument that historically it has happened, thats no argument. The crusade did also happen, killing people for nothing also happened, does that makes it right?

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    The man still needs to own up to what he did. He has never done that. He pussied out on his plea agreement and left America. He should get whatever he was originally going to get and then probably some extra years for fleeing America in order to avoid jail time for his rape charge.
    He owned up and pled guilty. His plea agreement was agreed to by judge and prosecutor to prevent it from going to trial and sparing the girl. He settled with her. The judge, either under pressure or for the sake of celebrity, on the agreement, made a mockery of the court (according to both the prosecuter and the defense attorney) and homeboy jetted. As Chump pointed out, the judge had a right to change his mind, but Roman knew he was about to get it and jumped. He was originally going to get 90 days in jail. But yeah, I'm sure he's going to get something tacked on. The display of support from Hollywood is ing disgusting though.

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    after reading this thread i can only come to one conclusion: i sure hope miami heat never has any children (or ever works with them).

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    That's the consequence of trying to teach sheeple. They immediately judge you and put their fingers in their ears.
    Last edited by MiamiHeat; 09-30-2009 at 09:33 AM.

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    That's the consequence of trying to teach sheeple. They immediately judge you and put their fingers in their ears.
    and the consequence of internet sarcasm is that some posters get a bit too sensitive to it.

    although i must admit that my sarcasm was driven to an extent by some of your rather unorthodox posts.

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    That's the consequence of trying to teach sheeple. They immediately judge you and put their fingers in their ears.
    I just dont agree with you, I took your argument down and I just told you that I think its sick. And still, I have none of my fingers in one of my ears

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    It's scientific fact.

    Why do you think the pornography industry rakes in billions of dollars through the 'teen' venue? "18 and legal" or whatever, "Barely 18" etc... whatever.

    Those are adult dollars buying that. Women who look young and healthy, innocent and clean, are the most successful pornography businesses. Look it up.

    It's a biological fact that many women reach a peak around 15-21 years of age. That is when their body is at it's sexual peak to attract a male. It is not uncommon for women to marry at 15, even today.

    There is nothing "sick" about it when you think of it in BIOLOGICAL and EVOLUTIONARY terms.

    However, it's illegal in the USA to act upon an attraction, and that is what Polanski screwed up on. I am only saying that the attraction itself is normal.

    And also, teenagers are not children. Children, technically, is considered to be 0-12 years old. A child is someone who has not reached sexual maturity yet, also known as puberty. However, the United States legal system defines a child as anyone under 18 years old, which again, is a product of the USA.
    Last edited by MiamiHeat; 09-30-2009 at 09:48 AM.

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    I just dont agree with you, I took your argument down and I just told you that I think its sick. And still, I have none of my fingers in one of my ears
    I was talking about rjjv, he said something about me.

    that post wasn't referring to you ;p There was nothing wrong with your response to me, I thought it was good. I was getting ready to reply to you.

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