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he should have ed her in japan then.
i'm glad this pos is going to pay the price. better late than never.
Age of consent in Japan is 13 years old. Spain, Korea also 13 years old. The median age of consent in the world is 16. Even in the USA, there are several states where the age of consent for sexual activities is 16.
There are many countries like this. They don't make a big deal about sex as we do here in the USA.
You do understand that, biologically speaking, there is nothing sick about being attracted to a teenager? Polanski comes from Europe. They see things differently than we do here.
However, it is imperative to ALWAYS RESPECT THE LAWS of the country you live in.
he should have ed her in japan then.
i'm glad this pos is going to pay the price. better late than never.
this is not about biological definitions. it is about the law. statutory rape laws were constructed to place limitations on adults seeking to influence their power over youth as well as to protect less experienced and more emotionally vulnerable individuals from certain age groups from others in older age groups. child molesters do not seek out adults for a reason. adults are far less vulnerable. in fact, individuals under the age of 18 are the most sexually exploited age group not just in the US but also in the world. and offenders are impisoned throughout the world so spare me the 18th century nihilism of le marquis de sade or the antiquated deconstructionalism of puritan ethics.
the psychological impact of a younger individual used for sexual profit in any context can be life long. there are more than merely the moral principles of pious sects involved in the impetus for statutory laws.
not that there is anything wrong with societies using ethics and morality for the basis of its laws.
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If Plaxico Burress got 2 yrs for accidentally shooting himself with his own gun imagine what they would have done to him if he did this to a poor little white girl!
I think 13 is too young for normal sexual attraction. Most females aren't developed quite enough for that by 13. More like 15 to 16 is when they hit that stage. Still, just because you're physically attracted to a 13 to 16 yr old doesn't make it right to follow through. What are we, apes?
You do know a judge is not "bound" to honor a "plea deal" between the DA and the defendant, don't you? If the judge thinks the plea deal doesn't dispense justice for the crime committed, he can tell the DA and the defendant to go to . At that time the defendant can withdraw his guilty plea, and have a trial, if he so wishes.
LOL plaxico would have been hung by his toes over a fire. lmao
Yeah, I said that too. It's CRITICAL that everyone follow the laws of the country they are in.
Once Polanski goes back to spain or europe or whatever, then he can go do it cause it's legal there. but not here.
It's true what you say, that the judge is within his/her legal right to overrule the plea bargain. However, It is a violation of ethics code. The State attorney's office thought it sufficient to offer that plea bargain. There must have been a reason they offered that plea bargain. The Judge should not have interfered.
It is not a violation of the ethics code. The deal is between the attorneys. Before the sentence is handed down, the Judge has the right o determine if the deal meets the standards of justice.
I've heard from the current DA that in 1977, the standard plea for a crime like this was 16 months to 3 years IN PRISON. Not 42 days in jail. It seems the lawyers negotiating the deal were far more star-struck than the judge who recognized the woefully inadequate sentence to the deal and attempted to remedy as best he could within the context of the plea deal.
Instead of 42 days in jail, Polanski was to be sentenced to 90 days in prison.
Still inadequate, but hardly a sentence to flea the country for. Sure, he could have withdrawn a guilty plea and gone to trial to contest the extended woefully inadequate sentence, but he probably would have lost and been sent to prison for a far greater period of time.
I've discussed the actions of this judge with my father, a one-time Arizona Prosecutor Of The Year. He said the judge had every right to do what he did. According to the standards of the day, Polanski was hardly even getting a slap on the wrist. The judge obviously, for whatever reasons, knew the inadequacy of the sentence and acted WELL WITHIN his rights.
Well Im from Europe too and its not normal here. First, I dont get and dont understand how you can be attracted to a 13 year old when you are 40 years old, that's sick. Second, to actually be attracted to such a young girl and also even have sex with her, that's even more sick and wrong.
So, what you are saying is, if you do it in USA its not normal, but if you do it in Japan its different? The act stays the same, no matter where you do it, its wrong. Its not about the respecting of laws, its about something which is just not done, not good, not appropriate.
If anyone violated any "ethics codes" in this case, it was the prosecuting attorney and the DA's office. They are in place to get justice for the victim, not make deals with someone who is famous. Judges job is to make sure that happens, while not violating any defendants rights.
I was alive and grown when this happened, and at that time I doubt you could have found 10 people in this country that didn't think he should have done at least 50 years in prison. Even the people in Lala land. But now, so many make "excuses" for him. My, how times have changed.
You're completely ignoring the issue of consent. Drugging someone in order to have sex and/or taking advantage of someone who is already inebriated makes consent problematic, even without taking anyone's age into account.
That being said, I'm a firm believer in victim's rights. If she wants to the whole thing dropped so that she doesn't have to keep reliving it, I think it should be.
He is sick.
She took the qualude herself. He didn't drug her.
However, I think a case could be made that, since he is the adult and provided the pills, that he could be technically the one who 'drugged her'
I don't know how the legal system would define that, really.
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 09-30-2009 at 11:08 AM.
This thread hits to close to home.
You do not have to sentence someone within the boundaries of the statute. Just because the law says that this crime carries a 12 month to 3 year prison sentence, does not mean that you go to prison for at least 12 months. The court can sentence you to 30 days in jail if they want to. It is up to the discretion of the prosecutor and Judge.
How do you know the prosecutor was star struck? Where did you get this information?
Just so you know, back in 1977, the crime he was charged with was "unlawful sex with a minor" and that was not nearly as serious as it is today.
The problem there, is that it isn't up to her. Once she made the complaint, he was arrested and charged and plead guilty, and then fled, it was really out of her hands. Now he is a fugitive of the courts, and that is entirely different from the original charge. He should have just done what little time they were going to give him, and got on with it. He could have spent his time in prison working on another film that would have made him a few million more.
And we wouldn't even be talking about it 40 years later.
Name one.
I already did.
have you had sex with a 13 year old?
lol @ miamiheat. jesus, just how many 7th graders have you ed man? you should overly defensive and guilty.
I have only had sex with 1 woman my whole life, my wife. and we were both over 18, so no.
so if you would have had the chance to have sex with a 13 year old. would you have done it?
Is that what he was "charged" with, or was that what he plead guilty to? Those can well be two different things.
When I lived in San Berdo, in 1973, I was "charged" with DWI. I plead guilty to reckless driving. 50 bucks for the lawyer and 50 bucks for the fine. You see, a plea bargain always favors the defendant, never the victim.
Spain.
and then there are many who have the age of consent at 14.
Germany
Cyprus
Croatia
Bulgaria
Bosnia and Hezgevonia
Austria
Albania
Hungary
Italy
Kosovo
Portugal
Why are you making this about me?
Ad hominem. Stay on topic. My personal views or experiences have no bearing with my argument.
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