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Funny to me that you seem to think that's not possible...
5 million eh?
Funny to me that you seem to think that's not possible...
Maybe this match goes to decision and it impresses Dana enough to finally have respect for Kimbo as an MMA fighter? Nelson is a of a chunk to chew on in Kimbo's first fight for credibility, so maybe they will spin it as a victory even if he loses.
He'll start to gain respect for Kimbo if the needle moves the way I expect it to.
Less than an hour away.
Oh. I believe you were looking for gay porn. I'm sure you were hoping it was starring Fedor.Funny to me that you seem to think that's not possible...
Big Country wins by TKO over Kimbo.
Terrible fight. Still a great show though...
Kimbo did a good job. But from my point he is not learning fast. He got some hints tips but a learnng process is looooooooooooong when it comes to Kimbo. And still he is weak in many mma aspects.
Good episode, decent fight but hardly the battle we hoped for.
Considering Kimbo is the only person to lose by means other than decision...I don't think it'd be fair to put him back in the ring if Marcus goes out like hinted in the previews for next week. But Dana wants the ratings, and people will at least tune in one more time to see Kimbo.
Also, wtffbbq Dana talking bull about Nelson? I'd like to see Dana fight a smart fight against Kimbo...a win is a win unless you kick the guy in the balls or poke his eye without the ref seeing it.
Roy said he'd put him in a crucifix and hit him until they stopped it, and that's exactly what he did. He was playing with Kimbo. He had full mount, barely went for a sub, barely threw a punch, gave up full mount (who does that unless you're hopping over to lock in an arm triangle or ???), and then put him in a crucifix. 2nd round same thing...all he cared to do was get him into a crucifix. He wanted to show how much better he was on the ground by predicting exactly how he'd end it. Somewhat impressive in that regard, but the punches were weak. The avg joe watching that fight isn't going to get it...or understand why it was stopped. Kimbo was stuck and doing nothing though...so it had to stop. Herb almost stopped it in the first...
Dana even called out Roy's punches. little girl punches.. lol. Someone get that man a cheeseburger.
Someone like Roy Nelson being a good MMA fighter is bad for the sport, i'm sorry it just is. People see this fat SOB with a gut so big he looks like all he does is drink beer and eat Whoppers all day and then see him fight well, and they think that MMA is easy. How could it be hard when someone that fat is any good at it?? Most people who don't know the sport will think that..
That said the fight was okay, Kimbo looked good when he let his hands go, he could have KO'd Roy but the dude just has no ground at all.
Even loss can’t stop Kimbo hype machine
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
No one ever said Dana White and his Ultimate Fighting Championship didn’t know how to market itself, its sport and its fighters.
There may be no greater proof than the job they’ve done with Kimbo Slice, the famed YouTube street fighter who crashed and burned under the weight of ridiculous hype that his last promotion and CBS television put on him. One year ago this week, it took 14 seconds to prove he wasn’t really the comparable figure to Tiger Woods that they laughably claimed.
Kimbo lost again Wednesday on e TV’s “The Ultimate Fighter” reality show. In a match taped in June, he was smothered by Roy Nelson, a round mound of fighting experience who twice exploited Slice’s inexperience, laid him out in a crucifix position and dropped dozens of light but unanswered punches.
Referee Herb Dean, who allowed Kimbo to be saved by the bell at the end of the first round, called it early in the second.
Kimbo got beat, although not beat up. And within a minute of his loss, White, the UFC president, was on the program dropping unsubtle hints that Slice would soon enough return to active compe ion on the show. He’ll likely replace fellow compe or Marcus Jones, who in scenes from next week appears to come down ill.
The return of a promising fighter that had lost isn’t unusual. In past seasons of the show, fighters have left due to injury, behavioral trouble and simple homesickness.
What’s most amazing isn’t that Kimbo will return. It’s that the show – either through the magic of reality television or by brilliantly showing what was legitimately real – has turned Kimbo into a likeable, humble and easy-to-root-for guy.
Dana White had changed the expectations game.
Suddenly Kimbo was being hailed for putting up a decent fight against Nelson, a former International Fight League heavyweight champion with far more experience.
White and coaches Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Rashad Evans all hailed his effort.
In truth, Kimbo landed just a couple significant punches, one knee and used solid takedown defense to stop Nelson another time. Other than that, it really wasn’t much of a performance. Nelson got him down twice and then just swallowed Kimbo up.
At no point did Nelson look to be in any trouble, although the few times Slice’s fists connected, it couldn’t have felt all that good.
“Can I get a Double Whopper with cheese?” Nelson shouted to White after the victory.
Yet for losing, Kimbo was the big winner.
And it all has to do with expectations. If he had lost this way a year ago at the final card for his old promotion, EliteXC, he would have been mercilessly ripped by fans. (That night, he lost even more decisively, a near-instant TKO at the hands of man who weighed 30 pounds less.) If anyone had made an excuse that his opponent was too good, they would have been heckled.
White would’ve been the first one doing the mocking.
Back then, though, Kimbo was being hailed as some mixed martial arts legend, when even he now admits he had virtually no skills. There is no comparison to winning backyard fights for a couple hundred bucks and taking on trained professionals inside a cage.
Now, close enough is good enough because the UFC is smartly selling Slice as a boots-straps up-and-comer, someone willing to admit he has a ton to learn, a family man (six kids) who just took the opportunity given to him.
It’s the same fighter, just better promoters.
White isn’t above hyperbole. He also knows that honesty sells. In this case, he isn’t selling an inaccurate image – he’s showing a real human. The guy who used to beat people up at barbeques now seems like a guy you wouldn’t mind having over to your house for one.
Slice has helped deliver record ratings for the 10th season of the show. White himself was predicting six million people would watch Wednesday’s fight – and with the promise of Kimbo returning next week, the ratings won’t drop far.
White has said Kimbo will stay with the company – whether he wins this season or not. Slice will fight in December, presumably at either the undercard of the TUF 10 finale on Dec. 5 or at UFC 107, a pay-per-view event in Memphis.
It stands to reason that many fans will be rooting for him, more now than ever.
He’s become a person on this show, not held up as some scouring force of terror. The beard and gold teeth are still there, but TUF has shown him training relentlessly, begging for additional coaching and getting along with fellow contestants who initially mocked and cursed his presence.
More than anything, special attention has been paid to showing (if you can believe it) Kimbo’s emotional vulnerability, particularly considering the built-up-and-torn-down-year he just went through.
“He’s just a good person,” said Jones, who played seven years for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “The things put in front of him would probably crush the mental state of any other man.”
Slice was seen praying, talking about how he realized “the enemy is the inner me” and making a series of hysterical malapropisms (upon realizing he’s been losing weight, he noted, “I haven’t developed a good eating r&eactue;sumé.”)
The guy is Yogi Berra with knockout power.
Or does he really have knockout power? We’ll see. He didn’t show it against Nelson, and the pressure will be on to display more in his next fight, be it on TUF or in December. As with all contestants, Kimbo will stick around and train until filming is done, a time where he can improve dramatically.
He is currently working with American Top Team in South Florida, home to a number of top fighters. They have a reputation as a no-nonsense operation that gets fighters in top shape. It is home to MMA stars such as WEC champion Mike Brown and UFC welterweight contender Thiago Alves.
He’s supposedly serious about it – even if various movie roles keep pulling him away for a couple days here and there. It’s worth noting, though, that when Slice was in EliteXC, we heard he was training hard under legendary former UFC champion Bas Rutten, only to later find out it wasn’t nearly so intense.
Time will tell whether at 35 he can develop into a viable fighter. Better won’t work forever. Still, his performance thus far on TUF has given him a second, and perhaps third, opportunity with the UFC. It’s rebranded him from street thug into modern day Rocky.
It’s found a way to make a loss where he mounted minimal offense into a victory that’s reviving his career.
All hail the marketing power of the UFC. No one ever said Dana White wasn’t good at his job.
Is Kimbo spelled with a K-I, or is it a K-1? -- see what I did there?--
Dude still has absolutely no ground game, and he looked hesitant to be too aggressive because of it. I'm not sure the result would have been much different had he had the confidence to go out there and try and to blast Roy, but I've got to believe that would've been his best shot to pull an upset; and yes, it would have been an upset.
You can tell he's lost a lot of his swagger after the EliteXC flop, and understandably so, but he better find it and really dedicate himself to takedown defense, a couple of sweeps, and one or two submissions that can help him from the bottom. He'll never be touted for his ground game with getting such a late start to the world off MMA and his lack of a wrestling background only adds to the uphill climb, but if he can master a move or two and regain some of that swagger with his standup.. He should be able to put on a pretty good show while making the UFC some cash in the process.
Damn good piece by Wetzel, by the way.
I couldn't help but laugh as his team started counting the
unanswered 'punches' to end the fight.
The dude looks like a sloppy fatass, but you've got to give him props on basically calling his shot.
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Good Stuff..Is Kimbo spelled with a K-I, or is it a K-1? -- see what I did there?
Dude still has absolutely no ground game, and he looked hesitant to be too aggressive because of it. I'm not sure the result would have been much different had he had the confidence to go out there and try and to blast Roy, but I've got to believe that would've been his best shot to pull an upset; and yes, it would have been an upset.
You can tell he's lost a lot of his swagger after the EliteXC flop, and understandably so, but he better find it and really dedicate himself to takedown defense, a couple of sweeps, and one or two submissions that can help him from the bottom. He'll never be touted for his ground game with getting such a late start to the world off MMA and his lack of a wrestling background only adds to the uphill climb, but if he can master a move or two and regain some of that swagger with his standup.. He should be able to put on a pretty good show while making the UFC some cash in the process.
Damn good piece by Wetzel, by the way.
And at age 35 starting where he is, Kimbo obviously needs to work on his JJ but mainly that dude just needs wrestling. Takedown defense, takedown defense, takedown defense. That's his best shot at winning some fights in the UFC. He needs to bust his ass working with top level wrestlers on nothing but takedown defense and banging on his feet.. Without question based on what i saw in that fight, if it had stayed up, he'd have KO'd Roy. Roy got hit with a few shots in that 2nd RD and he was begging for that takedown.. When Kimbo lets his hands go he is dangerous, but he needs better wrestling, he's got to plug those holes..
That fight sucked balls. I can't believe I was looking forward to it.
Way more exciting than the last fight
Agree.Good Stuff..
And at age 35 starting where he is, Kimbo obviously needs to work on his JJ but mainly that dude just needs wrestling. Takedown defense, takedown defense, takedown defense. That's his best shot at winning some fights in the UFC. He needs to bust his ass working with top level wrestlers on nothing but takedown defense and banging on his feet.. Without question based on what i saw in that fight, if it had stayed up, he'd have KO'd Roy. Roy got hit with a few shots in that 2nd RD and he was begging for that takedown.. When Kimbo lets his hands go he is dangerous, but he needs better wrestling, he's got to plug those holes..
He actually looked like he got a little giddy when he landed those shots and it had him throw an ill-advised knee, while in retreat, that gave Roy the takedown.
It looks like he might get another shot on the show, so hopefully he learns a little from this and, more importantly, fights someone not known for their ground game.
I really just want to see Kimbo go up against another standup-type fighter to see how good his hands really are.
He looks the part of a KO-artist and his technique is pretty sound, but I've yet to see him exhibit that ability going up against trained professionals..
He is way too tentative now............probably because of that KO he received a year ago. Still Kimbo beat Tank Abbot and that dude with the ed up nasty ear by being super aggressive. I think Kimbo needs to go back to that, but have better defensive skills, so he will not absorb a punch out of nowhere. I also think Kimbo lost too much weight. At 260 he is a beast, at 230, he is strong but light in the ass.
I'm thinking that Roy is a little pissed off that...
1. He has to go thru TUF to get into the UFC while others at his level (or below) have not.
2. He wasn't the "big announcement"
3. He wasn't picked first.
Prediction: He'll win the show, but in doing so he won't be liked by Dana and he won't last long in the UFC. They'll put him up against a couple badasses and get him out of there. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if he won every fight like he did last night, just to prove a point about how much more skilled he is on the ground than the rest of the guys in the house...
Who has Kimbo KO'd?? His KO power is a myth IMO. And his chin is very questionable...
Roy Nelson is on TUF because of his physique and no other reason.
Like I've said before...I'm not a Roy Nelson fan. He's always annoyed me with the belly rubbing bit...the goofy kicks after a win...and his comments last night were dumb. But, he's a good fighter. At best, middle of the pack in the UFC HW divsion...
IMO, Kimbo is too slow as a heavyweight. In MMA, big muscles need big oxygen, which mean guys that are huge like him tend to gas easily, especially on the ground. He needs to get to 205 to be effective for his (lack of) height....Personally, I had high hopes for Marcus Jones in this show. He has an excellent ground game; he fights with Rob Kahn out of Gracie Tampa. Either the show's producers are really ging him out on the show, or he's a hugely overrated wuss. We'll find out next week, I guess.
Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesner and Shane Carwin much????
Such a disapointment. So far, the show in general has been a disapointment this season.
He's talked about cutting to 205 lbs...would make sense...eliminate the 265+ lbs guys pinning him on his back at least...IMO, Kimbo is too slow as a heavyweight. In MMA, big muscles need big oxygen, which mean guys that are huge like him tend to gas easily, especially on the ground. He needs to get to 205 to be effective for his (lack of) height....Personally, I had high hopes for Marcus Jones in this show. He has an excellent ground game; he fights with Rob Kahn out of Gracie Tampa. Either the show's producers are really ging him out on the show, or he's a hugely overrated wuss. We'll find out next week, I guess.
I still don't understand how he's only 230 lbs. He's definitely not 6'2" but even if he's 6' 230 lbs doesn't make sense to me...
Yea the fight was boring as I suspected. Dana was right about Big Country's punches in the first round, they almost didn't look like they hurt.
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