The Top 10 Power Forwards Of The Last Decade, No Mention Of Duncan

[nkdlunch]

duncan is a center. he has played it for the last 6 yrs

so you agree Gasol is a C also and should not be on the list, correct?

[Nathan Explosion]

duncan is a center. he has played it for the last 6 yrs

Funny thing is, in the court of popular opinion, one opinion doesn't matter.

No matter what all the naysayers think, Tim Duncan will go down as the greatest PF to ever play the game.

Here's a good idea of what position people think Duncan plays.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...e&start=0&sa=N

[mardigan]

He says he is a power forward, the team says he is a power forward, what do I care if some laker fans want to argue that he is a center?

[xellos88330]

wow... talk about a dumb list. no tim. glad the writer was getting hounded in the chat because of it.

[hater]

lakerfan, just because Kobe Bryant also plays the position of Rapist does not take him off the list of Best SG Ever

[rjv]

this hack has a job? even if you grant him the extremely lenient and lame excuse that he regards tim a center how the does he list shawn marion and antwan jamison above karl malone ?

hopefully this guy finds his niche as a writer because sports is not for him.

[redzero]

+1,000,000 respect points for Dwyer.

Duncan isn't a Power Forward. Gasol is a Power Forward who is occassionally asked to play Center.

[hater]

+1,000,000 respect points for Dwyer.

Duncan isn't a Power Forward. Gasol is a Power Forward who is occassionally asked to play Center.

check NBA info Pages...
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pau_gasol/


Duncan listed as Forward

Gasol listed as Forward - Center

not to mention Gasol played mostly center for 7 years of this decade in Memphis

FAIL

[Nathan Explosion]

+1,000,000 respect points for Dwyer.

Duncan isn't a Power Forward. Gasol is a Power Forward who is occassionally asked to play Center.

Occasionally, or was asked to play center for his entire stay with the Grizz?

The list is lame and the guy knew it. He had to defend an egregious error and caught for it. He wanted the chat to be about the list, said so in the beginning, and got hounded about it the whole time.

The fact that he had to resort to insults shows he knew that he was defeated.

[DJB]

No Duncan? Oh, and Marion is a SF not a PF. This list is bogus. I've seen trolls on this forum that make up better lists than this ruh .

[hater]

Give him a break, he has a pf that plays like a sg on his team, he doesn't know any better.

so true. David West softest "PF" ever. Hornet fans should not even be allowed to post on the subject

[redzero]

check NBA info Pages...
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pau_gasol/


Duncan listed as Forward

Gasol listed as Forward - Center

not to mention Gasol played mostly center for 7 years of this decade in Memphis

FAIL

And? Duncan still plays Center. Oh, I forgot--Matt Bonner was the Center for the Spurs last year. Him and Oberto.

[Nathan Explosion]

And? Duncan still plays Center. Oh, I forgot--Matt Bonner was the Center for the Spurs last year. Him and Oberto.

Still can't combat the issue that Gasol made a PF list even though he's played center most of his career (is even listed as one) while Duncan has been listed as a PF his whole career.

[hater]

And? Duncan still plays Center. Oh, I forgot--Matt Bonner was the Center for the Spurs last year. Him and Oberto.

and? dumbass. how did you come up with Gasol "occasionally" playing Center when it's a fact he mostly did for 7 years.

[BlackSwordsMan]

''So in what decade would Tim Duncan be considered a top 10 power forward....considering his is the greatest power forward of all time and has played the majority of his career in this decade...''

[2muchDuncan]

Author is getting bashed!!!! I love it!!!

[rjv]

he is getting slammed.

the best point is that david was with tim for 4 seasons and then nazr and rasho were at the center position for the next 3 combined.

[coyotes_geek]

duncan is a center. he has played it for the last 6 yrs

3 years, debateable. 6 years, definitely not. Rasho sure as wasn't a power forward.

[Pero]

duncan is a center. he has played it for the last 6 yrs

There was Rasho/Nazr till 2006. And Oberto is IMO more of a center as well. So 6 years is wrong for sure.

[BlackSwordsMan]

I just read all the comments, lol

[redzero]

and? dumbass. how did you come up with Gasol "occasionally" playing Center when it's a fact he mostly did for 7 years.

He occassionally plays a Center on the Lakers, but is more of a Power Forward/Center hybrid. Timmy D. is a Center and has played Center for years. Yes, Gasol did play Center in Memphis, but he's a natural Power Forward.

[polandprzem]

I can read intresting things in this thread like that Dave was a guard

[hater]

He occassionally plays a Center on the Lakers, but is more of a Power Forward/Center hybrid. Timmy D. is a Center and has played Center for years. Yes, Gasol did play Center in Memphis, but he's a natural Power Forward.

first you say Gasol in this list is a good pick, yet now you agree that Gasol played C for 7 years this decade...

the list is Top 10 Power Forwards Of The Last Decade

how old are you?

[redzero]

And even if Dwyer thinks Duncan isn't a Power Forward, why so butthurt? He's obviously going to be on the Center list, and nobody's actually belittling his accomplishments.

[galvatron3000]

The top 10 power forwards of the last decade

By Kelly Dwyer



OK, we know the first decade of the 21st century doesn't really end until 2011. We think. But we also know there have been 10 full NBA seasons played since the phrase "Y2K" was on all of our lips (1999-2000), and here at Ball Don't Lie we've decided to use this as an offseason excuse to rank some of the best and not-so-brightest of the 10 campaigns in question. The result? Why, top 10 lists!

Bob Pet more or less created this one.

Big forwards can be rebounding specialists. They can be shot-blockers. They can, and have, been role players. But if you have a starting power forward plugged in to just sop up minutes and get out of the way, then your team is in trouble.

Because this is the position that needs to score. We'd like to see the position player in question do it all — score, rebound, defend, pass — but scoring is of paramount importance, especially while that 7-foot lunkhead you line up with every night is struggling to run and chew gum at the same time.

So, for your consideration, the 10 finest power forwards of the last decade.

10. Karl Malone

Malone only played until 2004, but the (arguable, if Bob Pet 's in the room) greatest power forward ever was pretty damn potent when he did suit up. Averaged in the low 20s per game, about eight and a half boards, four assists, and provided a staunch, ornery, defensive effort.

The Mailman could have easily played on after 2003-04, when he registered a 17.8 PER at age 40 while working in a new offense with the Lakers for the first time in nearly 20 years. But after a campaign that saw him miss 40 games (after missing 10, mostly by suspension, combined games in the 18 seasons previous), a frustrated Malone moved on. To shooting things.

9. Chris Bosh(notes)

This spindly scorer was an immediate hit in Toronto, showcasing a veteran's knack for putting the ball in the hole almost right away. Though Vince Carter(notes) complained that the Raptors could have used a 2003 lottery pick in a trade to secure veteran talent, Raptor fans knew what they had.

19.6 points and nine rebounds a game so far, and he just turned 25 last March.

8. Chris Webber(notes)

Remember, this list isn't a ranking of all-time power forwards, just the ones that played from 1999-00 until last season. And as great as Webber was at his peak, early in the decade, he was more or less done by late 2005-06; he missed most of 2003-04, and was one of the league's worst defenders from 2004 until his final sprint with the Warriors in 2007-08.

At that peak, though, he was masterful. An all-around terror who worked the low and high post to perfection, setting screens, finding cutters, scoring with the hook or jumper ... he was fantastic.

7. Rasheed Wallace(notes)

Wallace looked like a washout last season, and he hasn't really ventured into the post since the first George W. Bush administration, but his sound shooting and defensive ap ude made him a stalwart contributor on several great Trail Blazer and Pistons teams.

He also put those teams in peril with selfish play (under the guise of acting selfless), repeated technical fouls, and a churlish at ude that left him at odds with teammate after teammate in Portland. But you can't deny his on-court accomplishments. Unfortunately.

6. Antawn Jamison(notes)

Jamison gets a lot of stick for the things he doesn't do — move bodies in the paint, grab ferocious rebounds, dominate defensively — but he's so damn good at what he does do that you can't deny him a significant placement on this list.

He can score. About 20 a night. Eight rebounds, rarely turns it over. Very rarely — 1.7 turnovers per game on his career, in almost 37 minutes a contest. And he works defensively, while trying to find the open man. There's a reason the similarly-scoring Zach Randolph(notes) didn't make the top 10, while Jamison is all the way up at number six, and it has to do with the lack of team-killing ideals in areas outside of putting the ball in the hole.

And unlike Wallace and Malone, Jamison is still going strong. And unlike Bosh, he put in a few years of going strong before Chris even made it to the NBA.

5. Elton Brand(notes)

We're fully aware that Brand has missed nearly two full seasons recently, and that he may never return to the form that saw him mentioned as an MVP candidate in 2005-06, but his peaks were just so good that we couldn't drop him any lower.

Even in the face of constant double-teaming while stuck on lousy Bulls or Clippers teams, Brand has still averaged 20 and 10 on his career, with a combined three blocks/steals, and 2.6 assists. And yet, he's unfairly maligned as if it were his fault he tore his Achilles, hired Tim Floyd, or drafted Michael Olowokandi(notes).

4. Shawn Marion(notes)

It's an oft-repeated cliché, but it remains the truth — Shawn Marion rarely, very rarely, has a play called for him.

And yet, in a career that started the season this list began, he's averaged almost 18 points per game. It doesn't end there, as he's grabbed about 10 rebounds, averaged a combined 3.1 blocks/steals, dished two assists, and turned the ball over a miniscule 1.6 times a contest. Alongside fantastic defense, and an ability to spread the floor that helps a team and doesn't always show up in newspaper box scores.

3. Pau Gasol(notes)

This isn't a case of someone just coming into his own, Gasol's per-minute, pace-adjusted stats from last season were about what he was coming through with back in 2004-05. Sure, his defense has markedly improved, to the point of being nearly dominant in the playoffs last spring, but this man has been a beast for years. Great to see the rest of the world catch up.

18.8 points, 8.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 2.2 combined blocks/steals, in 35.7 minutes per game. And he's only 28. The guy's presence in your high or low post makes your offense much, much better, even if he isn't scoring or registering an assist. That counts.

2. Dirk Nowitzki(notes)

It would be a pity if Nowitzki ended his career as undervalued, overall, because it's hard to find a greater decade of power forward work in the annals of NBA history.

23.6 points on about 48 percent shooting on the decade, with 8.9 rebounds, a steal, a block, and a shockingly low amount of turnovers. Only about eight and a half percent of the possessions that Nowitzki has used up over the course of the decade have ended in turnovers, a sterling number.

1. Kevin Garnett(notes)

Somehow, Dirk is topped. By a player who still doesn't seem to get the credit he deserves.

Despite the hype, the yelling, the commercials, the fawning on-air tributes from Bill Russell, and (a second time, just to be sure) all the yelling. I still don't think people appreciate how great Kevin Garnett has been, over these years, especially defensively.

That's OK, though. Because, despite all the yelling (have you heard the yelling?), I don't think KG cares much. I don't think he gives a toss where he's ranked, even if he is ranked as the greatest power forward of the last decade.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,193073

Glad I didn't read this, laughable