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    first you say Gasol in this list is a good pick, yet now you agree that Gasol played C for 7 years this decade...

    the list is Top 10 Power Forwards Of The Last Decade

    how old are you?
    Gasol did play Center because he was called upon to do so. Duncan played Power Forward early in his career for the same reason. Gasol is a Power Forward/Center hybrid, who can play either position. On the Lakers, he alternates between roles when Bynum is on and off the court. It's quite simple.

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    Acting like a bunch of whining es will, as allways solve an issue. Who gives a flying what some mediocre sportswriter says....

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    I love how we Spurs fans get so angry about where Duncan is listed LOL..

    Timmy is past the point of top 10 lists for his position..he's in arguments for the overall greatest 10 players in NBA history..this position by decade is irrelevant when it comes to a legend like Duncan..

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    Acting like a bunch of whining es will, as allways solve an issue. Who gives a flying what some mediocre sportswriter says....
    Hey, no giving compliments to Kelly in this thread.

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    I love how we Spurs fans get so angry about where Duncan is listed LOL..

    Timmy is past the point of top 10 lists for his position..he's in arguments for the overall greatest 10 players in NBA history..this position by decade is irrelevant when it comes to a legend like Duncan..

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    I love how we Spurs fans get so angry about where Duncan is listed LOL..

    Timmy is past the point of top 10 lists for his position..he's in arguments for the overall greatest 10 players in NBA history..this position by decade is irrelevant when it comes to a legend like Duncan..
    Spurs fans have to cling on that "Greatest Power Forward of All Time" label, just like they cling on the "Team of the Decade" label.

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    Gasol did play Center because he was called upon to do so. Duncan played Power Forward early in his career for the same reason. Gasol is a Power Forward/Center hybrid, who can play either position. On the Lakers, he alternates between roles when Bynum is on and off the court. It's quite simple.
    well Gasol was called upon to do so for 7 years which means he played C for most of this decade, which means he cannot be named in the top PF of this decade.

    thanks for clearing that up

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    He occassionally plays a Center on the Lakers, but is more of a Power Forward/Center hybrid. Timmy D. is a Center and has played Center for years. Yes, Gasol did play Center in Memphis, but he's a natural Power Forward.
    Gasol played the entire 2007-08 season with the Lakers at center, and more than half of the 2008-09 season. And you admit before that, he played center in Memphis. I know you're trying to get under Spurs fan skin, but your argument is a fail.

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    Gasol played the entire 2007-08 season with the Lakers at center, and more than half of the 2008-09 season. And you admit before that, he played center in Memphis. I know you're trying to get under Spurs fan skin, but your argument is a fail.
    I'm not trying to get under anybody's skin. I'm still baffled by these Spurs fans' hostility towards Duncan being called a Center. They take it as an insult.

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    The thing is you would at least think they'd spend a line explaining why they left TD off the list at the position he has played a decade of all star games at.

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    I'm not trying to get under anybody's skin. I'm still baffled by these Spurs fans' hostility towards Duncan being called a Center. They take it as an insult.
    It's not an insult, it's just wrong. People will let you know when your wrong around here.

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    I'm not trying to get under anybody's skin. I'm still baffled by these Spurs fans' hostility towards Duncan being called a Center. They take it as an insult.
    yup. you are not getting into anyone's skin. and noone here is pissed at what some dumb reporter thinks.

    It's just that the writer's logic, as well as yours is flawed. and we are just pointing that out. carry on.

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    WGAF. Tim is one of the greatest ever regardless of position.

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    reasons to be "angry" at that list...
    It was just to deny Tim his rightful #1 PF status, puts KG at #1, Kelly D. trying to be provocative and failing, TD will be listed behind Shaq (and with the way these lists look prolly plenty of other C.'s) on the Center list, It's a recently popular sentiment putting TD @ C, Gasol places as a PF so it negates the list being comprehensive of the entire last decade, cause he/she had to make a rude baseless comment to a Spurstalker to defend his/her idiotic list... Lots of reasons to all over this list. S'kinda redundant though, like ting on someone else's still steaming . Kelly, don't quit yer day job... oh wait...

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    well Gasol was called upon to do so for 7 years which means he played C for most of this decade, which means he cannot be named in the top PF of this decade.

    thanks for clearing that up
    In another sport, something similar happened, albeit, to a far more significant player.

    ARod was going to do down as the greatest shortstop to ever play. That wasn't in doubt. Now it may not happen because he's been playing 3rd base since he joined the Yankees. He may have been brought up as a shortstop, but he's a 3rd baseman by trade. Therefore he cannot be considered the best shortstop.

    Pau played center, whether you like it or not. He was listed as a center and played the position. Can't be on a top 10 PF list as a center.

    Duncan on the other hand played PF. Guarded Webber, Sheed and KG for most of the decade, all PFs. Duncan is a PF as he is listed.

    About the only claim you can have at this point is that Duncan guarded Gasol and he was a center, but the problem is, if Duncan is a center, Gasol is a center.

    Kind of defeats your argument.

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    This dude has lost his mind, from the chat:

    3:33
    KDonhoops: Shaq's not a center.

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    LOL @ Spurs fans clinging onto "greatest PF" and "team of the decade"..

    what do Hornets fans have to cling onto?.."..."..I can't even think of a joke, that's how bad it is..

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    This dude has lost his mind, from the chat:
    saw that. Also in the same chat he said "Who is Timmy?"


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    I'm not trying to get under anybody's skin. I'm still baffled by these Spurs fans' hostility towards Duncan being called a Center. They take it as an insult.
    I could care less what he's called. PF or C, WGAF. That's not restricted to Duncan. But you can't put Gasol on that list by that logic, no way to rationalize that.

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    Spurs fans have to cling on that "Greatest Power Forward of All Time" label, just like they cling on the "Team of the Decade" label.
    Deron Williams at 100% is the best PG in the game.

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    This dude has lost his mind, from the chat:
    Shaq's a CENTER according to him. Does that mean that Wilt's a CENTER?

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    3:36
    [Comment From Art]
    Point is, Duncan is a PF whether you want to admit it or not. 3:36
    KDonhoops: You molest collies, whether you want to admit it, or not.

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    And even if Dwyer thinks Duncan isn't a Power Forward, why so butthurt? He's obviously going to be on the Center list, and nobody's actually belittling his accomplishments.
    Well nobody's belittling his accomplishments, but looking at the lists so far I guess Duncan will be behind Shaq, Yao and Jerome James on the top 10 centers list (because, you know, Jerome grabbed 12 rebounds once in a playoff games and that was enough for Kelly to get a lifetime crush on him).

    From a rational point of view if I had to make the same top 10 lists I'd start with center, realize there are only 3 guys in that top 10, and add Duncan to make it at least 4.

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    His defense of using Marion:
    Marion does the same things a PF typically does. When was the last time you saw Marion break down a defense with a dribble, or run a 1/3 screen and roll?

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    Point is, Duncan is a PF whether you want to admit it or not. 3:36
    KDonhoops: You molest collies, whether you want to admit it, or not.
    I was about to nail him on that one before he quit his chat. I was going to basically call him a hack who can objectively defend his position, so he has to resort to insults. In a debate, failure to argue a point is a major concession to the opponent and basically admits defeat.

    But the comments section of the column basically argues my point for me. He's absolutely getting killed about his "list".

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