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    WOAI recently interviewed Coach Pop, and decided to ask him about politics. Popovich, who I've always liked a lot, responded by completely pissing me off. I make a point of not knowing the political views of celebrities and sports figures because I want to continue liking those who I like. So I didn't like the fact that they slipped it into the interview before I had a chance to turn it off.

    Popovich said something about "the fear that's being perpetrated out there around a public option is just shameful". No Pop... it's not shameful at all. It's pretty damned reasonable for people to have fear about the government seizing the healthcare industry, when it WILL lead to rationing (no way to add 30 mill people with FEWER doctors - as many will retire if a public option happens - and not have rationing). Not to mention the fact that all of the existing major government en lements are on a fast track to bankruptcy.

    Pop, stick to basketball. Don't insult many of your fans by calling our point of view "sickening".

    Greg Popovich: "If you're going to have any compe ion at all, you've got to have a public option. How can you not have a public option?! I mean, just the fright and the intimidation that's trying to be perpetrated on everybody is just sickening."
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    You hate basketball and politics mixing so to counter that you mix basketball and politics?

    Wow.

    Kent in Atlanta. A little secret... no one gives a what you think.

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    Pop was agreeing with you. He was saying the government is wrong for making people fearful.

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    You hate basketball and politics mixing so to counter that you mix basketball and politics?

    Wow.

    Kent in Atlanta. A little secret... no one gives a what you think.
    Then then why the are you posting in his thread? If you don't care, then you don't comment. Who's being contradictory?

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    everybody is en led to their opinion..politics is something that is easy to disagree on..you have your beliefs, Pop has his..no reason to on somebody for their beliefs..

    according to DPG, he was agreeing with you LOL..so it's pointless now too..

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    Pop was agreeing with you. He was saying the government is wrong for making people fearful.
    Nope... he was supportive of a public option, and said that fear being spread about the idea of a public option was "sickening".
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    Pop was agreeing with you. He was saying the government is wrong for making people fearful.
    No, not really.

    He was asked questions and he answered truthfully lol.

    He finally had enough after a while, but I thought it was fun.

    I disagree with him on the health care obviously, agreed with he banks and the auto companies and there is such a thing as clean coal pop google it.

    That being said, I could care less, he still seems like a class act and he is still a damn good coach.
    Thats all that matters.

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    everybody is en led to their opinion..politics is something that is easy to disagree on..you have your beliefs, Pop has his..no reason to on somebody for their beliefs..

    according to DPG, he was agreeing with you LOL..so it's pointless now too..

    No I understand kent's POV and Pop and him do not agree 1 i ota.

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    I thought he said that economics should prevail and that if big companies are going to fail, let them. I also thought he was saying that the government was using fear against the people and that he thought that was shameful.

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    No, not really.

    He was asked questions and he answered truthfully lol.

    He finally had enough after a while, but I thought it was fun.

    I disagree with him on the health care obviously, agreed with he banks and the auto companies and there is such a thing as clean coal pop google it.

    That being said, I could care less, he still seems like a class act and he is still a damn good coach.
    Thats all that matters.
    Yeah, I guess... he was asked a question, and he answered it honestly. I'm probably overreacting. But I am a person who thinks that FEAR is sometimes healthy and perfectly appropriate, and I do have fear about the government taking over healthcare... and I have explained my point of view to others. So I guess I would fall in his "sickening" category. That's what kind of pissed me off about what he said.
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    I thought he said that economics should prevail and that if big companies are going to fail, let them. I also thought he was saying that the government was using fear against the people and that he thought that was shameful.
    He DID say that if companies are going to fail, let them fail. And I agree with him on that. But he was definitely supportive of a public option. He said something to effect of "how can you have compe ion without a public option".

    It's not the fact that he disagrees with me that bothers me. Everyone is en led to their point of view. It was his "sickening" comment that pissed me off.
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    I thought he said that economics should prevail and that if big companies are going to fail, let them. I also thought he was saying that the government was using fear against the people and that he thought that was shameful.

    Pop views anyone saying bad things about government run health care as "scaring people" its the way the other view point views things.

    Therefore me and Kent disagree wholeheartedly with Pop.

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    Yeah, I guess... he was asked a question, and he answered it honestly. I'm probably overreacting. But I am a person who thinks that FEAR is sometimes healthy and perfectly appropriate, and I do have fear about the government taking over healthcare... and I have explained my point of view to others. So I guess I would fall in his "shameful" category. That's what kind of pissed me off about what he said.

    Yeah tad bit of an overreaction.

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    Thanks for posting this. I admire Pop even more than I had thought possible.

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    Then then why the are you posting in his thread? If you don't care, then you don't comment. Who's being contradictory?

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    Thanks for posting this. I admire Pop even more than I had thought possible.
    You're welcome.

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    Yes, the U.S. should be scared, after all, every other European and industrialized country has cheaper yet equivalent medical to the U.S., and manages to have a public option (or non-profit insurance).

    Other countries mock us; they actually look to the U.S. as what NOT to do for a just health system.

    Look at Japan for an example of a health care system that we would do well to become more like..the boogyman of socialized medicine is a farce, the whole rest of the world already proved so. Educate yourself before you let fear of the unknown and fear of change cloud your mind.

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    Pop views anyone saying bad things about government run health care as "scaring people" its the way the other view point views things.
    Yeah, disagreeing with it is what is "scaring people", not the actual "your grannies going to die" and "death panels" bs etc.

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    Just rewatched, he did say the public option thing. Either way, he did not call people who were fearful "shameful", he said the use of fear is shameful. Huge difference.

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    Go to the political forum where you can argue to your heart's content about the merits of paying 16% of our GDP and more than any other nation in the world for a tier system than what the rest of the first world has done with public health care.

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    Yeah, disagreeing with it is what is "scaring people", not the actual "your grannies going to die" and "death panels" bs etc.
    Just like the other side... Obama during his speech recently said that if a government option wasn't passed, businesses would go under and people would die. Just like if we didn't pass that largest pork-infested spending bill in our nations history (the "stimulus" bill) IMMEDIATELY, America would burn to the ground by weeks' end.

    Yeah... no fear mongering from the left.

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    So have we successfully kissed the boo-boo and recognized that it's not the end of the world if a sports figure you like has a different opinion than yours on a political topic?

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    Just like the other side... Obama during his speech recently said that if a government option wasn't passed, businesses would go under and people would die. Just like if we didn't pass that largest pork-infested spending bill in our nations history (the "stimulus" bill) IMMEDIATELY, America would burn to the ground by weeks' end.

    Yeah... no fear mongering from the left.
    Our country is ed paying medical costs when the baby boomers who trashed this nation hit retirement age unless something is done to significantly rein in costs. We pay 20% more per capita then the next most expensive healthcare option in the world; that of Switzerland, which manages to cover everyone.

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    Go to the political forum where you can argue to your heart's content about the merits of paying 16% of our GDP and more than any other nation in the world for a tier system than what the rest of the first world has done with public health care.
    Well, you said it BEFORE going on to talk about having a tier system the the rest of the world with public options... this isn't a political forum, and I didn't intend to take it that far in a political direction.

    My point was that I thought Popovich's comments were dismissive of the opposing point of view to the point of being insulting.

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    Thanks for posting this. I admire Pop even more than I had thought possible.
    + Juan, Go Pop!

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