**Official TUF 10 Discussion Thread**

[BlackSwordsMan]

i guess wes sims did post spoilers
I wonder what kind of reprimands he received

[LEONARD]

Yep...a little bitter about Kimbo's treatment...

“I could have stayed in mount and finished him there with elbows and punches, but my game plan was to get to the crucifix, and once I got to the crucifix, finish the fight there. First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.’ But the thing is, there’s a lot of people; there’s a lot of money. Kimbo’s the only one that I know that had an entourage there; he actually had his family there, his management, while the rest of us kind of had to suffer. The UFC made, we’ll say, different concessions for Kimbo. I think he had a media room. Kimbo’s definitely, I guess we’ll say, special. I don’t see the specialness fighting-wise, but more for TV-wise. He puts butts in the seats. So I think it was more that Herb Dean was afraid to lose his job, because there’s a lot of people with a lot of money that can have a lot of influence with his career.”

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ode-3/1?csp=34

[oligarchy]

He needs to learn the difference between top of the head and face.

[dbreiden83080]

Yep...a little bitter about Kimbo's treatment...

First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.

I would not in any way shape or form call what Roy was hitting Kimbo with, punches. Did you get a look at Kimbo after the fight, he wasn't hurt at all just tired, not a scratch on him. Dana described them perfectly, saying it was like "Your kid sister hitting you" Page said it best How do you get the moon off you"

Roy basically sat his fat ass on Kimbo and lightly slapped him until Dean said enough, only because Kimbo couldn't move underneath that fat SOB..

I'm thinking that Roy is a little pissed off that...

2. He wasn't the "big announcement"

How are you a big announcement when nobody knows who the you are?? Does the average fan know who he is?? Nope.. Tons of fighters probably never heard of his wide load behind either..

3. He wasn't picked first.

Walking in off the streets looking like you just hit the sizzler all you can eat buffet will do that come selection time..

Prediction: He'll win the show, but in doing so he won't be liked by Dana and he won't last long in the UFC. They'll put him up against a couple badasses and get him out of there.

Good Riddance, like i said someone looking that out of shape has no business in the UFC. And i don't care about him fighting like he is in shape, he looks like total ass, you can't have someone with that kind of body front and center in any division. AVG person sees someone like that doing well and they think badly about MMA.

Who has Kimbo KO'd?? His KO power is a myth IMO. And his chin is very questionable...

I'm not saying he has huge power but when he connected with that right hand it shook Roy up. He was racing for the takedown after he got hit, even Rashad said, "Roy won't admit it but he got rocked for a second, you could tell"

[oligarchy]

Wow. db.. I didn't even have to type.

[dbreiden83080]

Wow. db.. I didn't even have to type.

[LEONARD]

I would not in any way shape or form call what Roy was hitting Kimbo with, punches. Did you get a look at Kimbo after the fight, he wasn't hurt at all just tired, not a scratch on him. Dana described them perfectly, saying it was like "Your kid sister hitting you" Page said it best How do you get the moon off you"

Roy basically sat his fat ass on Kimbo and lightly slapped him until Dean said enough, only because Kimbo couldn't move underneath that fat SOB..

How are you a big announcement when nobody knows who the you are?? Does the average fan know who he is?? Nope.. Tons of fighters probably never heard of his wide load behind either..

Walking in off the streets looking like you just hit the sizzler all you can eat buffet will do that come selection time..

Good Riddance, like i said someone looking that out of shape has no business in the UFC. And i don't care about him fighting like he is in shape, he looks like total ass, you can't have someone with that kind of body front and center in any division. AVG person sees someone like that doing well and they think badly about MMA.

I'm not saying he has huge power but when he connected with that right hand it shook Roy up. He was racing for the takedown after he got hit, even Rashad said, "Roy won't admit it but he got rocked for a second, you could tell"

I expect more from MMA fans that know the sport...this is similar to what I've seen posted from the masses that tuned in and know nothing about MMA!!

So in your opinion, the fight shouldn't have been stopped because the punches weren't that hard?? Really??? Come on dude...you know the rules. Roy took it easy on Kimbo...called his shot and toyed with him on the ground. Yes, Kimbo landed a couple decent punches, but nothing that really hurt him too bad.

I'm not saying he should've been a big announcement...HE thought he should be. I was listing reasons why HE'S probably not happy about having to go thru TUF. He doesn't belong on the show. He's the #20 HW in the world...nobody else is even on the map...

Since when does weighing 265 lbs mean you can just lay on people and win fights in the UFC? If he was 265 without a gut people wouldn't say . Come on man...if you didn't see his grappling skills put to use you're just hating on the guy and minimizing his skillset. Give me a break. He was able to pin Kimbo because he has good technique and Kimbo sucks on the ground. Could he have done that to a 230 lbs Fedor? Or Couture? Or *insert good fighter*?? Nope...

Roy has to fight 3 times in less than a month if he wants to make the finale. Why would he go out and not win the fight while minimizing risk? He should've just gone for the takedown from the get go really.

I hope Roy rolls thru TUF with crucifixes for everybody...that would be funny. Wouldn't be smart for his career (not that I care), but it would be funny...

[BigMoneyTexas]

db hit the nail on the head this whole page. Roy Nelson is a fat piece of garbage with major delusions of granduer. Nobody knows him and nobody cares about him yet he thinks he's a heavyweight superstar. His only job is to train and fight yet he looks like any other redneck fatass in the trailer park. If he would put in some work and get in shape he probably wouldnt have to go thru TUF to get a UFC contract but if he's gonna act and look the way he does he's never going to be in the UFC.

[oligarchy]

His points were: He was hitting like a girl and it's laughable he called them punches to the face.

Roy is fat and hopefully he's gone soon.

/end of story.

[dbreiden83080]

db hit the nail on the head this whole page. Roy Nelson is a fat piece of garbage with major delusions of granduer. Nobody knows him and nobody cares about him yet he thinks he's a heavyweight superstar. His only job is to train and fight yet he looks like any other redneck fatass in the trailer park. If he would put in some work and get in shape he probably wouldnt have to go thru TUF to get a UFC contract but if he's gonna act and look the way he does he's never going to be in the UFC.

I'm not saying he isn't skilled or that he didn't deserve to win the fight, like Leonard seems to think i am. He is skilled and he did deserve to win, but his look is astrocious. If he was a top 5 guy, capable of smashing most of the UFC heavy elite, then great have a good run in the UFC and make some money, but that's not the case. He'll be a gate-keeper at best in the UFC. Put him with Brock or Cain or Carwin or Gonzaga, Nog, Mir and he'll get raped.. I just think anyone that fat, doing well in the sport is a bad representation of the sport. Everyone bashed Sylvia to no end for getting insanely out of shape and losing to Mercer.. Most people don't look at how skilled a guy is on the ground if he weighs 600 pds with a gut so big it looks like he is carrying triplets.. The point is the UFC needs to bring in the casual fan, Roy's not doing that.. I'm sorry but that's just my take on Big Country..

[Stringer_Bell]

He's talked about cutting to 205 lbs...would make sense...eliminate the 265+ lbs guys pinning him on his back at least...

That would be a smart move, I just can't see him being able to compete against the top heavyweights. I think he's got a better chance at lightweight, power punching his way through the compe ion...cuz he's got a lot to learn after starting so late. I also agree that Kimbo wants to learn and is humble, which has been pretty well-known to fans following him, but for some reason they painted him as a thug until last night's episode.

Give Roy Nelson a break, he's fat but he knows how to use it. It's like accusing a playboy model of cheating cuz she's got nice fake boobs and gets the best publicity. Every person does what he or she needs to do to win, and if the "average MMA fan" is too blind to understand the game...let them lose sleep while the winners keep winning.

[LEONARD]

per MMAWeekly... e TV VP Brian Diamond says Kimbo vs Roy Nelson fight pulled 6.1 million viewers. One of the Top 5 most watched fights in US MMA history.

[desflood]

I was just glancing at Yahoo's top searches.

3. A-Team
4. Roy Nelson

[LEONARD]

[tsb2000]

Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesner and Shane Carwin much????

Brock is a freak of nature, but I seriously doubt he could go five rounds with his size. Good thing for him he doesn't have to. Even after the Couture fight he was sucking wind pretty hard, not to mention his fight against Herring, who is a Texas-sized tomato can. Carwin is in the same boat- when has he ever gone the distance? I've got a feeling Lashley won't be that good once he sees some compe ion.

[dallaskd]

Kimbo will be back on the show.

[dbreiden83080]

The King wants it his way...

[dallaskd]

Damn rampage is a worse coach than shamrock was.

[desflood]

Dallas, that's almost exactly word-for-word what I came on to say. Damn mind-readers creep me out.

[Stringer_Bell]

I like how Kimbo is now towel boy, always there to console his teammates.

Rampage is funny, but funny ain't worth when it comes to coaching. He's right though, it's dumb to assume the contestants have proper to superior instincts when fighting. Next fight goes to Rampage tho, no way does Rashad sweep.

[dbreiden83080]

Dallas, that's almost exactly word-for-word what I came on to say. Damn mind-readers creep me out.

He's a sore loser and immature, this whole thing is not up his alley but was serving well to hype the Rashad fight, now that 's over for now..

[760Spursfan]

He's a sore loser and immature, this whole thing is not up his alley but was serving well to hype the Rashad fight, now that 's over for now..

The guy hates to lose but he is partly to blame as a "bad coach". Just listening to him talk he sounds like an idiot. Its a good thing Rampage can fight or else he'd be in serious trouble.

[lebomb]

who won the match up last night? I missed it.

[760Spursfan]

who won the match up last night? I missed it.

Brendan Schaub beat out demico Rodger by anaconda choke

[lebomb]

Wow.......................and Demico was bigger. , all of Rampages people are bigger, they just arent as good.