who cares the more important question is who crapped in the urinal!
Here we go again..
Mouse just give it up, brah. You're never going to provide the air tight five thousand page report, rife with girder engineering specifics that chumpdumper requires to change his mind. And he has two smart ass comments for every retort. Just give it up.
And go where?
What is there to give up? I made a topic to show people there is another 9/11 movie out there in case they wish to view it. I never said I wanted to prove ChumpDump is really the nephew of Donald Rumsfeld.
You would think smart people get that way by asking questions Chump acts like he was the one who orchestrated the whole thing when he spits out his one sided views and his "lier lire pants on fire" comments.
You may want me to give up, and Chump may want me to forget but those people who died that day may say different they may be saying your all we got mouse keep up the fight, a fight for truth.............
If I want 3rd world country lifestyle I can just move to the west side of SA.
Last edited by mouse; 10-02-2009 at 01:41 AM.
I have no idea what happened on 911, but I don't believe those planes brought the buildings down either. It goes against common sense. I don't care to sway anyone to my way of thinking, but I can tell by some of the posts in this thread that a lot of you seem to accept what you're told blindly. Ask all the questions you want mouse, I'd like an answer acceptable someday.
If your sister died in a bus crash and the police say it was greyhound and the sheriff department says it was trail ways wouldn't you want to know what bus she was on?
Well the 9/11 commission is saying what bus? She was on a train.
Paranoid schizophrenics are prone to delusions, tales in which random events become deeply meaningful. Some believe in complex conspiracies; others think they are Jesus Christ.
These stories sound crazy, but they may be the brain's efforts to make sense of its own internal messages, suggests ij Kapur, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and vice president of research at the Canadian Centre for Addiction and Mental Health.
Sheep!!! All of you are sheep.
The REAL conspiracy is the fact that the government knows that people can buy into so called 'conspiracies' and will watch the television shows that talk all about it while showing everyone ads to buy prescription drugs. It is a way to get money into the economy. Everyone is blind!!!!
PS: I was being sarcastic.
Common sense implies that the majority of people have an understanding of an experience so as to have a collective knowledge. I don't know about you but that's the first time I have ever seen a building (as unique in its construction as the twin towers) brought down by plane or any other means. So how then can we have common sense?
Why do people continue to question expert opinion based on actual science. Is it because the answers aren't "sexy" enough.
Question expert opinion? Please post some links!
I hope your not talking about the so called experts that said jet fuel melted the steel beams in the WTC. when you meed temperatures of
1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
the temperature of the fires.
~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature
The experts once said RBGH was good for your milk. And now many are dying!
Wasn't Colin Powel an expert in matters of War?
Look how Iraq ended up.
feel free to use the word expert some more. I have more to teach you.
Still beating up that poor straw man you made years ago? The accepted theory of the collapse did not require the steel to melt, only to weaken and subsequently deform under it's own weight and everything it was supporting. The fires were hot enough to make that happen.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...l?page=4#steel
But you already know this.
You've been told this.
Several times.
I await your ad hominem and change of subject.
Facts: pDumper avoids.
In February 2005, The Windsor building in Madrid (pictured) burned for over 24 hours as shooting flames engulfed almost the entire structure and yet the building did not collapse. The core of the WTC was exponentially more robust than the Windsor building. So we have one building that burned incessantly for over 24 hours and did not fall, compared to two buildings which were structurally far superior, burned briefly from limited fires, and yet both collapsed within an average time of 79 minutes - and Meigs claims they should have collapsed sooner!
About the melting steel... the steel doesn't have to 'melt' to become structurally unsound. The heat WILL weaken it, it is science fact! It is also a fact that jet fuel can burn hot enough to bend the steel.
When did you become a structural engineer Mouse?
Then why are there kerosene heaters? Do you not watch any of the videos?
Right around the time ChumpDumper wrote the 9/11 Commission report.
When did Kori become a spokes person for the Spurs?
When did Angel_luv become the first female disciple of Christ?
When did Manny become the weather God?
When did NZ Spurs become the of the topic?
the list goes on brah!
Hey Mouse check this out:
Matthys Levy, The same guy from your "youtube" video.Matthys Levy, the chairman of Weidlinger Associates and one of the engineers on the study team, says, “The buildings had tremendous reserve capacity and that was reflected in all of the elements we analyzed. In fact, because there were so much excess capacity, the columns even in the impact floors did not buckle immediately, but failed as the result of the fire.” The report states that failure of the WTC’s steel floor supports (“trusses”) did not contribute to the collapses. Instead, the collapses were caused by the failure of steel structural columns that were either destroyed when the planes hit or lost fireproofing, leaving them vulnerable to the weakening effects of the ensuing fires.
Try doing some research that involves actual reading.
I will give you the courtesy of reading your next reply, and then thats it for me. Ive got more important things to do. Its been fun though Mouse.
Why shouldn't Matthys Levy comments be posted? Why should I have to screen every quote before it's posted. I am not Chump where I can't see both sides of an issue. He pointed out Jets were scrambled (even though none were within where the hijackers were,) And I accepted it.
You don't think I want all views as long as they are truthful?
I am not here to post "ha ha told you so!" quotes and videos. unlike you this is not a game for me. If you think jet fuel can bend steel and a huge steel frame structure can fall to the ground at nearly free fall speed and turn into dust?
Then more power to you. I as an American have the right to think differently.
And if you want only scientific research on the matter then I call your Mattys Levy a raise you a Rosie O'Donnell
O'Donnell wrote :
• The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
• Silverstein said to the fire department commander “the smartest thing to do is pull it.”
• Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to “blow up”.
• The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
• Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.
Why don't you and your 9/11 grave stomping pals watch a movie tonight?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...8779414136481#
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