The Big Bynum/Kareem Breakup

[cheguevara]

Precisely why Bynum will never be an all-star.

He's 7' 3" and can walk, so of course he's going to average 12 and 10.

[DPG21920]

That is scary if Cobbler had anything to do with the Lakers Organization. I am hoping he worked with Kareem outside of basketball related activities.

[cobbler]

That is scary if Cobbler had anything to do with the Lakers Organization. I am hoping he worked with Kareem outside of basketball related activities.

We did a commercial together and were briefly involved in teaching at a bball camp. I am not a part of the Laker organization which has nothing to do with anything. You just cannot handle that I have forgotten more about basketball than you could ever hope to know. Don't you have some floors to sweep? Bathrooms to clean? Move along...

[Culburn369]

Did any of you actually read where it said they would still be working together during practice and films?

tee, hee.

[Brazil]

There is a time for every person to graduate.

Bynum didn't diss Kareem, and he still wants him as a mentor. He just doesn't want the handholding daily. I can understand that.

From what we've seen of Bynum he has what it takes when he's on. The problem is him being in shape/healthy enough to do it.

Yeah, Kobe would learn from MJ, just as he did from GP or Hakeem. But after a weekend, he'd be on his own. its been 4 years, time for the grasshopper to leave the master and
become one on his own.

Black's comment was interesting though. I wonder if Kareem publically politicing for a coaching job anywhere had anything to do with it.

But back to Bynum, he would have been in this years's draft if he went to UConn for 4 years. The Kareem learning never was going to be forever. What does he hear or get in 5 he doesn't get in 4?

Time for Bynum to grow from boy to man. And its not like Kandiman where he's cutting all ties. Kareem is still on the batphone when needed.

For once, I would say, I agree with lakers fans, Bynum cannot be teached full time by a mentor untill he retires ! I don't know if it is a good decision or not but I understand it. He is feeling it is the right time for him to be more independant and to grow like a man. What's wrong with that ?
Sometimes fans are bashing just for bashing which is lame.

[hater]

We did a commercial together and were briefly involved in teaching at a bball camp. I am not a part of the Laker organization which has nothing to do with anything. You just cannot handle that I have forgotten more about basketball than you could ever hope to know. Don't you have some floors to sweep? Bathrooms to clean? Move along...

because Phil Jackson is such a nice gentleman. Being an ass does not mean . Bynum is an ignorant egocentric dumb big man. just face it.

[hater]

For once, I would say, I agree with lakers fans, Bynum cannot be teached full time by a mentor untill he retires ! I don't know if it is a good decision or not but I understand it. He is feeling it is the right time for him to be more independant and to grow like a man. What's wrong with that ?
Sometimes fans are bashing just for bashing which is lame.

Ewing taught Yao for years and years. No peep from Yao. I beleive Ewing is now teaching Dwight. No peep from Dwight either.

[Culburn369]

Being an ass does not mean .

Pop notwithstanding.

tee, hee.

[SenorSpur]

Hmmmm. Let me get this straight.

Bynum, whose game is still developing, whose game can best be described as having unfulfilled potential, and a player who has more years in front of him than behind him, breaks off his mentoring sessions with a basketball Hall-of-Famer.

Kobe, who is at the top of his game and recent MVP of the NBA Finals, 4-time NBA Champion, and a player who has more game behind him than in front of him, seeks out a Hall-Of-Famer to work with over the summer.

What's wrong with this picture?

[Culburn369]

Ewing taught Yao for years and years. No peep from Yao. I beleive Ewing is now teaching Dwight. No peep from Dwight either.

& the circle is complete:::Bynum made Dwight quit.

[hater]

Pop notwithstanding.

tee, hee.

thanks for helping me make make point. Pop can be an ass yet still a good coach.

[Culburn369]

What's wrong with this picture?

ANSWER: your insistence in not acknowledging the part where they'll still be working together.

[Spursfan092120]

I know Kareem to a degree. I have worked with him. He is a condescending ass. Not many people like being around him. I don't see the Lakers being upset or saying anything about it. I see Bynum saying its all been good and will continue...just not as extensive. The only one complaining is...go figure... Kareem. Could it be he has ulterior motives? Could it be that in 4 years he has given about all he can give? Could it be that he's just not the greatest teacher? If he's so great at it why has he not received more coaching offers? Ill tell you why.... He's an arrogant ass and not well liked. It's not breaking news. He was always that way throughout his career.

I know he's condescending, and I know he's an ass...that's not front page news...but he's still one of the greatest...I just think it wasn't intelligent for Bynum to turn down more knowledge.

[Culburn369]

thanks for helping me make make point. Pop can be an ass yet still a good coach.

Yes, Phil was his mentor.

[Culburn369]

I know he's condescending, and I know he's an ass...that's not front page news...but he's still one of the greatest

You talkin' about Pop or Alcindor?

[Brazil]

Ewing taught Yao for years and years. No peep from Yao. I beleive Ewing is now teaching Dwight. No peep from Dwight either.

If I understood correctly the article, Bynum will continue to work with Kareem but less intensively. Reading between the lines I imagine that Kareem mentoring was a little bit too much for Bynum and for Lakers FO too, he just wants to take some distance. I just don't see an outrageous arrogant at ude. Once again this is just MHO.

[cobbler]

because Phil Jackson is such a nice gentleman. Being an ass does not mean . Bynum is an ignorant egocentric dumb big man. just face it.

I have never heard anything that suggests that PJ is a jerk or difficult to work with. In fact, probably his greatest skill is that of managing players and thier egos. PJ is the coach and you either tow the line or sit. Kareem is a consultant and nothing more. And you call Bynum ignorant...

[Culburn369]

If I understood correctly the article, Bynum will continue to work with Kareem but less intensively.

You got it. Don't lose it. Now pass it along.

[Culburn369]

I have never heard anything that suggests that PJ is a jerk or difficult to work with. In fact, probably his greatest skill is that of managing players and thier egos.

...& the checks those ego's cash,,,I mean write.

[cobbler]

Hmmmm. Let me get this straight.

Bynum, whose game is still developing, whose game can best be described as having unfulfilled potential, and a player who has more years in front of him than behind him, breaks off his mentoring sessions with a basketball Hall-of-Famer.

Kobe, who is at the top of his game and recent MVP of the NBA Finals, 4-time NBA Champion, and a player who has more game behind him than in front of him, seeks out a Hall-Of-Famer to work with over the summer.

What's wrong with this picture?

What is wrong is you paint an inaccurate picture.

Kobe sought out and worked with Akeem for a grand total of TWO hours.

Bynum has worked extensively for 4 years with Jabbar and did NOT break off the mentoring sessions. Again, did you not read the part where he said they would STILL be working together at practice and in viewing game films? Just not as extensively.

[Morg1411]

@ Spurfan. None of this will matter when were kicking your ass up and down that dirty ass riverwalk, as usual.

Clever. Thanks, Butt , your input is always welcome.

[iggypop123]

it was always agreed that they wouldnt work together that much, it has gone down every season. nothing huge

[lefty]

There is a time for every person to graduate.

Bynum didn't diss Kareem, and he still wants him as a mentor. He just doesn't want the handholding daily. I can understand that.

From what we've seen of Bynum he has what it takes when he's on. The problem is him being in shape/healthy enough to do it.

Yeah, Kobe would learn from MJ, just as he did from GP or Hakeem. But after a weekend, he'd be on his own. its been 4 years, time for the grasshopper to leave the master and
become one on his own.

Black's comment was interesting though. I wonder if Kareem publically politicing for a coaching job anywhere had anything to do with it.

But back to Bynum, he would have been in this years's draft if he went to UConn for 4 years. The Kareem learning never was going to be forever. What does he hear or get in 5 he doesn't get in 4?

Time for Bynum to grow from boy to man. And its not like Kandiman where he's cutting all ties. Kareem is still on the batphone when needed.

I agree with you.

Kareem himself will be the 1st to say it's time for Andrew to learn on his own.

There is so much Kareem can do; it goes as far as teaching the basics, but each player has his own style.

[Culburn369]

What is wrong is you paint an inaccurate picture.

Kobe sought out and worked with Akeem for a grand total of TWO hours.

Bynum has worked extensively for 4 years with Jabbar and did NOT break off the mentoring sessions. Again, did you not read the part where he said they would STILL be working together at practice and in viewing game films? Just not as extensively.

Cobbster, they know. They're desperate. The 15th drove 'em near batty. I thought getting ToD would calm their sensitive asses, but, they're off on another tangent.

[Spur-Addict]

A lot of Bynum bashers are going to eat a lot of crow this year.