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    According to CC Yao Ming is really tall because his ancestors worked on building the upper portions of the Great Wall - not because the Chinese Government pushed his parents toward marriage.
    I have no opinion on Yao Ming except that his feet apparently can't support that big ass body.

    Actually, on second thought if the Chinese find some with big ass strong feet and a pair of balls they might be able to breed the perfect NBA center.
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    I have a love hate relationship with you CC. I'm not going to lie, its mostly hate, but there's a tiny bit of love in there too.

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    Blacks are not better athletes than whites.

    Hybrids are better athletes than whites or blacks.

    That why American blacks are better athletes than African blacks (who don't do at the Olympics).
    Oh God.

    Thanks for all the wise teachers in this thread.







    Please don't send us any more.

    Amen.

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    I have a love hate relationship with you CC. I'm not going to lie, its mostly hate, but there's a tiny bit of love in there too.
    LOL I have strange affection for you too Manny...kind of like my relationship with my mentally challenged Nephew.

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    Yes.

    It is what it is.

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    You guys are funny. Can you not accept the fact that most black slaves came to America from central and southern Africa (where they were sold by other black tribes who had conquered them) which is not exactly a kind and gentle continent to evolve in? Where lions, rhinos, hippos, crocodiles etc. (not to mention other black tribes) killed the slow and the meek? Where they evolved in relative isolation? Where athleticism might be an asset and only the strong and fit survived to breed? Where over thousands of years they DID become genetically superior to soft Europeans?

    Yeah, it's all the slave owners...LOL...
    ROFL hoooooooooooly . Do you think that Africans were ing neanderthals? You do realize that the people who were kidnapped to be slaves weren't Mangbetu-speaking pygmies, right? The peoples of West Africa had empires, great kingdoms, and societies with complex religions and trades and - amazingly enough - had other things to do besides outrunning some ing hippos.

    I'll second some reading up on Mendel.

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    ...in the swimming pool?

    On skis or skates or bicycles?

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    ROFL hoooooooooooly . Do you think that Africans were ing neanderthals? You do realize that the people who were kidnapped to be slaves weren't Mangbetu-speaking pygmies, right? The peoples of West Africa had empires, great kingdoms, and societies with complex religions and trades and - amazingly enough - had other things to do besides outrunning some ing hippos.

    I'll second some reading up on Mendel.
    Uhhh...I never said they were neanderthals but Central and Southern Africa did choose a radically different social structure than most of the rest of the world as they evolved into our current time frame. Laissez Faire survival of the fittest is still the rule rather than the exception. You can hardly refute that.

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    If Slavery had an effect on Black poeple WTF happened to these three?






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    Uhhh...I never said they were neanderthals but Central and Southern Africa did choose a radically different social structure than most of the rest of the world as they evolved into our current time frame. Laissez Faire survival of the fittest is still the rule rather than the exception. You can hardly refute that.
    What social structure would that be?

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    At any rate, the banner comparison with all other races makes the scope of comparison unwieldy and good generalizations scanty. I'm very skeptical the answer to this is obvious.

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    What social structure would that be?
    As a GENERAL RULE Africa never got past the tribal structure. You still see it today in the genocide as power shifts. I realize there are a few exceptions. I intentionally did not say that other civilizations were more civilized but we can at least disagree politically without killing each other on a massive scale.

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    Laissez Faire survival of the fittest is still the rule rather than the exception. You can hardly refute that.
    One telos of the theory is that the fittest survive.

    In reality, only the survivors survive.

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    They never got past the tribal structure. You still see it today in the genocide as power shifts.
    Lay it out for us, profe.

    I intentionally did not say that other civilizations were more civilized but we can at least disagree politically without killing each other on a massive scale
    Like in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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    I would propose that Afghanistan is very similar to Africa as far as tribal loyalty taking precedence over state or nation loyalty. The tribes go with the flow and side with whoever happens to be "winning" at any given place and time. We will never get a positive outcome there no matter how many troops/resources we throw at it. It is what it is.

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    As a GENERAL RULE Africa never got past the tribal structure. You still see it today in the genocide as power shifts. I realize there are a few exceptions. I intentionally did not say that other civilizations were more civilized but we can at least disagree politically without killing each other on a massive scale.
    Are they chiefdoms or tribes? Maybe they're just bands. How would you classify them?

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    I would propose that Afghanistan is very similar to Africa as far as tribal loyalty taking precedence over state or nation loyalty.
    Sorry for the derail, all. This is totally OT.

    Sounds reasonable. I really wouldn't know.

    It's well known that Afghanistan does not describe a nation (in the ethnographic sense) but instead the political boundary that includes the tribal melange you refer to in your post. It is unclear on whose authority you rely for your certainty about the similarity with Africa, but again, according to legend and lore, in Africa colonial boundaries did not always reflect tribal realities either, so saying so much is merely prosaic.

    The well-gnawed bone of contention here IMHO is the argument that tribal societies are ill-suited for multicultural, liberal democracy. To some this seems racist or uncompassionate; to others it looks more realistic. The cultures and the form of government don't seem to jibe, in Afganistan.

    We will never get a positive outcome there no matter how many troops/resources we throw at it. It is what it is.
    We pretty much agree here. The first year or so was damned impressive really, but things would seem to have gone downhill.
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    Wes Welker, New England Patriots, 2007 and 2008 seasons 223 catches 2340 yards.

    Another epic FAIL by jerk somethingsaid.
    Congrats? There are about 150 WR's in the NFL today. You found the one white dude and you think what? You think whites,asians,mexicans,etc have no soapbox to stand on? You really think blacks are the only ones that can play WR's? Come on son. Give me us a opinion. Do you really think Blacks are the only ones that can play that position or is the NFL,College,High School, Pop Warner racist? Are blacks better athletes than white or any other race? The numbers clearly say they are better? But are they?

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    As a GENERAL RULE Africa never got past the tribal structure. You still see it today in the genocide as power shifts. I realize there are a few exceptions. I intentionally did not say that other civilizations were more civilized but we can at least disagree politically without killing each other on a massive scale.
    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you WWII, and somewhere between 50 million and 70 million dead, civilian and military. link

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    Fair question. I can't name a white running back in the NFL. Not one. I can't name a white wide reciever in the NFL. Not one. If you can that is a great trivia question. The last white dude that everyone said could play ball was Larry Bird. Golf.....Tiger Woods, this guy is up against history. He is far behind Jacks Championships and other folks records but he is known as the best in history. NHL is a white sport. Baseball has a fair mix of whites,blacks and illegals. Our President is black. What the is going on when people talk race card. NFL whites can easily claim race cuz there are few whites. Baseball whites can call race card because the majority is from other countries. NBA whites................ITS A ALL BLACK LEAGUE. So on a national level how can anyone claim race.
    Congrats? There are about 150 WR's in the NFL today. You found the one white dude and you think what? You think whites,asians,mexicans,etc have no soapbox to stand on? You really think blacks are the only ones that can play WR's? Come on son. Give me us a opinion. Do you really think Blacks are the only ones that can play that position or is the NFL,College,High School, Pop Warner racist? Are blacks better athletes than white or any other race? The numbers clearly say they are better? But are they?
    And Tiger Woods isn't "far" behind Nicklaus. It's 18-14 with 4 majors/year. He'll surpass Nicklaus. You fail at sports knowledge.
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    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you WWII, and somewhere between 50 million and 70 million dead, civilian and military. link
    I almost went there too. I thought it was too obvious to point out, but you are impeccably correct.

    Even excluding the 20th century, Europe's history is pretty bloody.

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    And Tiger Woods isn't "far" behind Nicklaus. It's 20-14 with 4 majors/year. He'll surpass Nicklaus. You fail at sports knowledge.
    Tiger didn't win one last year. That's 0 for 4. Son, no doubt Tiger Woods is ing great but Jack is right there,,,,sorry Jack is ahead of him. You told me I failed at sports knowledge. How bout you go look at some stats sports guy. Tiger is not better than Jack like so many people think. Jack is better!

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you WWII, and somewhere between 50 million and 70 million dead, civilian and military. link
    Oh please. The difference is that after we kicked their ass in the war and they surrendered we went back in and "forgave and forgot" and rebuilt their governments and their economies. We didn't slit the guys throats and rape their women. There IS a difference.

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    You had such a huge opening to call me on 20 major victories when it's really only 18.

    Nicklaus didn't win his 14th major until he was 35. Tiger won his 14th when he was 32.

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