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It'll make Kobe goin' sans Daddy look like Sunday school.
F'in child care.
It'll make Kobe goin' sans Daddy look like Sunday school.
I have to agree with Luva, the addition of Ron Ron made an already talented Lakers team infinitely tougher and even more talented.
Kobe - Top 5 SG
Pau - Top 5 PF
Bynum - Top 5 C
Ron - Top 5 SF ... maybe Top 10
Lamar - Top 10 PF although without candy, plays more like Top 15
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Pau, Bynum, Lamar - #1 Frontcourt
Kobe, Ron Ron - #1 perimeter defense
I think the only two teams with talent and cohesiveness remotely close to the Lakers are Boston & San Antonio. LeBron & Shaq together really is interesting but they did nothing to solve their midget guard problem. Dallas & Orlando have a load of talent but I don't think they play well together.
I don't think it will be difficult for the Lakers to repeat at all and I personally don't really like it. Lack of compe ion makes for a very boring season from an entertainment perspective.
please, kill yourself
by all means, stab yourself in the knee with a diseased needle
Uh, uh, daddy-O. The Cubby has landed and we're gonna go thru the '09-'10 season together.
What is it that you do not understand about the different situations? Houston was a team that had not gotten out of the first round in a long time. They needed another big piece and they had to take a risk if they had any hope of winning a le. They had to. Artest was still a risk in Houston, but they had no other options.
LA is a team that won without Artest. They did not need to take a risk. There is no reason to add a risk to your team. They could have won without Artest, the only way to go from here is backwards. Artest is a talented player and I think he will be fine in LA, but they did not NEED TO take the risk; Houston did.
Yes, that (triumph Vs. Boston) is where Kobe (and the Lakers) will attain mythical proportions. Nothing will ever be the same again.
We're on the precipice of true legendary greatness. Does Bryant have what it takes, what it took Magic Johnson in the Summer of '85? I hope we'll bear witness to the answer.
Ancient ground, DPG: Christ, if I've explained this once I've gone over it a hundred times:::
Odom wanted Artest.
Odom delivered the goods (those two cold blooded 3's).
The good Dr. saw his opportunity, shut his f'in mouth and waited till just a smidge after midnite free agent day.
He gave Odom what he wanted/Artest.
Two choices for the Dr., DPG:
Ariza.
OR
Artest & Odom.
How can we take this for fact? Where did you find definite proof of this. Or at least heavy speculation with a lot of fans who agree. I need a link
That is what I said. Still does not explain why you bring up Houston and Ron to make a point about LA and Ron. It is a risk. Anytime you bring in a player like Artest, with his baggage, it is a risk.
Artest is a talent upgrade, but the questions are 1) Will he play the role LA needs him to, 2) Will he fit in 3) Will he behave or cause chemistry problems.
LA won without Artest last year, they had no questions to be answered. They do now with Artest and that makes it a risk. I am sure it will work out fine though.
Not true.
Because it's common f'in sense, man.
Christ, do you have to have Media lead you to every single waterhole, Mavs_?
It was a wild stroke of genius by Buss. He got everything he wanted the way he wanted it: the moment Odom shows up in the playoffs Buss is able to reward him with exactly what he wants/Artest. He can then give Artest the money, and give Odom Artest in lieu of an amount of money. WTF is Odom gonna do? Nothing, he's got to sign.
Buss has won 9 NBA World Championships in 30 years of ownership. And now you know why, buster.
We are the champions, my friend, and we'll go on fighting to the end!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that the FO realized that we were fortunate to not have to go through the Celts and Cavs who have larger small forwards. Could it be that they saw the way Melo and other large SF's were able to push Ariza around? Could it be that they realized Ariza (and I love Ariza) got hot (shooting) in the 3rd round and finals and that was not the norm as witnessed by the rest of his career?
It's ironic how we get all these posts talking about how lucky the Lakers got on their path to the championship and in the next breath say they shouldn't have tried to upgrade since they won it all.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
Where does he say that it was either Ariza or Odom/Artest???
That's where you use your common sense. That's why he ran Ariza off immediately. Odom had shown his cards already (wanting Artest). Buss just let nature takes it course= give Ariza the boot/give Artest the money/give Odom Artest. Odom made it doable by showing up in the '09 playoffs. Everybody had been saying forever that he could do it...he finally did it. Buss didn't have to pay him. He could pay Artest and get Odom thrown in for a discount.
So it's all just lakerfan speculation. Wheres the proof that Lamar wanted Ron in LA or else he wasnt resigning?
Buss was able to to choose Artest & Odom over Ariza because Odom had delivered the championship. The "risk" came when Orlando closed to 5 and Odom busted their ass with those two threes. Buss at that point put the plan into action....and frankly used Odom's immaturity to trap him with the Artest signing. But, he didn't rub his face in his makings. Odom wanted to pal around with Artest in Los Angeles, Kobe signed off on it, and Odom got his fantasy wish. Buss got another ring, everybody was happy/sans Ariza. tee, hee.
Christ, time elapsed twixt midnite of the free agent period, the dumping of Ariza just east of Bakersfield and the Artest signing was what: 72 hours? Odom didn't know wtf hit him.
And that answer shall be no.
Christ, use your f'in common sense, man.
He wanted Artest in CA.. Turns out he'd been playin' grab ass with him for years. They also keep the shower incident with Artest|Kobe under wraps for near a year and then expose it when the time is ripe. That acts as defacto grace from Kobe on the Artest acquisition.
Buss can go preemptive: "he wasn't resigning" doesn't even register with him. He kept his ear to the train track and heard the rumblings twixt Artest & Odom and then pounced on it. Instead of just money, he gave Odom money & Artest.
So you don't have a problem with it practically being 5-on-4 because you have Bynum and Gasol to make up for Artest's mistakes?
& I'm on record with the requisite "no" as well. After 13 years and at 31 Kobe has settled. He'd have to go to a fresh level in order to accomplish the triumph over the Celtics team. They're waiting for him.
I just hope I'm wrong.
Cubster, there is no way the Celtics are making the Finals this coming season. I don't see why anybody would expect a Lakers-Celtics Finals. KG is still gimpy, and an aging Rasheed Wallace doesn't make up for it. Cleveland and Orlando are much better IMO.
Maybe Orlando, Mori, but, not Cleveland. Daddy will suck the life out of that franchise by January.
Well, of course I'm figuring on Garnett to return to form. And Wallace will straighten up. To me they're stacked. Them, us & the Spurs.
In Orlando much rests on what impact Carter is going to have. This is his last chance to make his mark. If he can't, they can't get there.
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