Scrimmage Thoughts - Oct. 4, 2009

[My Fault]

Maybe so, but Hill is clearly developing far more rapidly than is Mahinmi. They say "big men take longer" and that's fine, but how much longer should the Spurs wait on this guy? Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't give up on him yet, but he has to show some type of progress this season if he's to ever become a consistent contributor, even though he's likely to see limited minutes.

Well he also has a full NBA experience and some playoffs under his belt. Once Ian has. A full year and still no improvement I'll pass my judgement then.

[Spursmania]

If you didn't get to watch, Spurs.com will have today's scrimmage up later.


Thanks for the thoughts timvp. It feels good to have the team and SpursTalk in gear for the season.

Awesome-thanks for info Duncan228. I only saw the beginning and then had to head out to kids' birthday parties. Looking forward to seeing it. Any idea when it will come out?

[Spurlady]

Some of you are reading too much into a practice.

But for a practice there was a great deal of intensity and it certainly didn't seem like just a practice. The guys were going all out and hitting the floor--hard. It was a first look at how the team looks heading into the season and we can start forming our opinions of who we'd like to see stay and who can go.

[urunobili]

god i was missing this... thanks timvp

[ulosturedge]

Ian's problem is he doesn't know how to stay involved in the game. When he doesn't have the ball he seems to disappear from the game.

He wants to contribute though. I saw him take it strong on Timmy, but they didn't give him the call. He was visibly upset that he didn't get the call. He has good form on his jump shots and he shoots freethrows well. He just needs to stay active when he doesn't have the ball. He needs to move more without the ball.

[duncan228]

Any idea when it will come out?

Just sometime tonight. spursdotcom said that he would post it when it was up.

[The Truth #6]

Happy to hear the positive news. It sounds like Ian and Marcus Williams aren't there yet, but the strong play of Manu, RJ, Blair, Parker, Hairston (to some degree), and even Bonner is plenty of positive news.

But maybe this is classic Bonner - completely shine in the least important "game" of the year. Ha! Given that, we should get the most out of him during the first half of the season while the new players adjust and then reduce his minutes after the all star break. Joking?

[BOHOLANO#21]

I can only imagine what seats I wouldve gotten. I wanted to be there by 12! lol


too bad I couldnt make it

I got there at 1245 and my seat was in the 6th row in front of TD's bench. not bad...

[BOHOLANO#21]

ian's problem is he doesn't know how to stay involved in the game. When he doesn't have the ball he seems to disappear from the game.

He wants to contribute though. I saw him take it strong on timmy, but they didn't give him the call. He was visibly upset that he didn't get the call. He has good form on his jump shots and he shoots freethrows well. He just needs to stay active when he doesn't have the ball. He needs to move more without the ball.

+1

[BOHOLANO#21]

i think if given the minutes, ian mahinmi will be a decent back up center. it's hard to judge a players effort in a practice game with nothing at stake.

[benefactor]

Bogans' contract guarantee isn't that big of a deal. The Spurs would eat some money, but not much if they decide to go with, as an example, Hairston and Jerrells.

Between Haislip, Finley and Hairston, I'm not sure how much playing time he'd receive...

But if they cut him wouldn't it count against the cap? With the number of years he has been in the league his salary should be $1,107,572. If it does count against the cap the Spurs would eat over 2.2 million just to get rid of a player they didn't want.

[wildbill2u]

i think if given the minutes, ian mahinmi will be a decent back up center. it's hard to judge a players effort in a practice game with nothing at stake.

I disagree. Good players want to win and excel in every compe ive venue, even scrimagess. I bet Manu and the other stars were focused and involved because that is their nature and the reason they are stars.

It's even more disappointing at ude from a player who hasn't proven he belongs on an NBA roster yet.

[Interrohater]

I liked Bogan's effort today, from what I could tell from that horrible online feed. He looked exactly like what a defensive specialist should look like. He moved his feet, kept his arms up and is bald.

[TIMMYD!]

George Hill is maturing.

[TIMMYD!]

300 posts yeah.

[duncan228]

Timothy Varner of 48MoH with thoughts, including a link to timvp's.

http://www.48minutesof .com/2009/...age/#more-4827

[tav1]

But if they cut him wouldn't it count against the cap? With the number of years he has been in the league his salary should be $1,107,572. If it does count against the cap the Spurs would eat over 2.2 million just to get rid of a player they didn't want.

Not quite. The league picks up half, irc.

[Spursfan 87]

Originally Posted by Bruno
Some of you are reading too much into a practice.

Practice??? we are talkin about practice??

[DPG21920]

http://www.48minutesof .com/2009/...age/#more-4827

# Ian Mahinmi continues his routine of flash a little here, fizzle a little there. I’ve watched him as closely as anyone over the past three years, and he looks like a monster in waiting when he slips into a rhythm. But when he doesn’t, he’s simply a clumsy, low energy big. At this point, I’d like to see the Spurs take a sink or swim approach with Mahinmi. Give him big minutes, relative to his role as back-up center, in preseason and throughout, say, the first third of the regular season. My su ion is that he is in fact a rhythm player who works his way into games by playing up to compe ion. But there is really only one way to find out.

This is almost exactly my thoughts. Others notice it, I am sure the coaches notice it and I really hope Ian turns it up. We will find out starting October 6th.

[toki9]

Ian's problem is he doesn't know how to stay involved in the game. When he doesn't have the ball he seems to disappear from the game.

He wants to contribute though. I saw him take it strong on Timmy, but they didn't give him the call. He was visibly upset that he didn't get the call. He has good form on his jump shots and he shoots freethrows well. He just needs to stay active when he doesn't have the ball. He needs to move more without the ball.

Maybe a high-energy/emotional teammate is what he needs on the floor with him...would love to see some chemistry develop between Ian and Dejuan...maybe Dejuan can get Ian involved...

[Spursfan 87]

its going to be interesting to see who's going to make the active the active roster, specially who's going to be the 11-12th man and who's going to be in the inactive list.

[EricB]

Some of you are reading too much into a practice.

That aint no ...

[EricB]

BTW knocking Mahinmi on not "turning up the intensity" over a made for the fans glorified practice is bull .

[EricB]

I disagree. Good players want to win and excel in every compe ive venue, even scrimagess. I bet Manu and the other stars were focused and involved because that is their nature and the reason they are stars.

It's even more disappointing at ude from a player who hasn't proven he belongs on an NBA roster yet.

Yeah, a made for the fans practice is CLEARLY an indication he doesn't care.


God pass me some of what you people are smoking.

[DPG21920]

BTW knocking Mahinmi on not "turning up the intensity" over a made for the fans glorified practice is bull .

No it is not. It is a legit complaint that many people notice. It is not just one practice; this has been a problem for a while now. Today just made it visible to the masses.