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Yep. That's why instead of worrying about healthcare right now Obama & Co should be worrying about how to get the infrastructure spending moving.
Would it matter if they did? It's not like the democrats are all that interested in what the republicans think these days. Again, this is the dems mess to clean up and they're not interested in what the republicans think. So whether the republicans have any ideas or not, probably not, it's pretty much irrelevant.As the opposition, the Repugs don't have any proposals or bills to remedy the banksters' economy?
I guess not. I do appreciate deeply that they did propose a federal budget without numbers
Yep. That's why instead of worrying about healthcare right now Obama & Co should be worrying about how to get the infrastructure spending moving.
Well, since we love European systems so damn much lately, why not be like them and have the government be the single largest employer hands down, right?
This country has gone ing insane...the things some of you will consider in the face of adversity is beyond my comprehension.
Well, the fallacy that just any old college degree is the pathway to a better life has certainly been exposed. All those guys and gals that skated through school with their liberal arts degrees are finding out that they just wasted a load of money on school and don't have any real world skills that employers will actually pay for.
Which European systems are you referring to? Who has advocated government domination of the job market?
Why would you NOT consider any particular option in the face of adversity? Consideration does not equal enactment.This country has gone ing insane...the things some of you will consider in the face of adversity is beyond my comprehension.
In any event, does a drowning man refuse a flotation device based upon its color?
huh? Im sure we already are and have been for decades
No kidding. I don't have a single day of college, but I have vast experience. That's what employers want.
some employers.
If an employer is stupid enough to look at college and not experience, I don't want to work for his dumb ass anyway.
yeah, those hospitals, law firms, architect firms, engineering firms, accounting firms and schools sure are stupid.
I have friends that have kids that have been out of college for 2+ years that STILL haven't found jobs that are "good enough" for them. They are still being supported 100% by their parents and I have to bite my tongue to not say what I think...
How are those parents doing those kids a favor by not telling them to get their asses out there and find a job or they will cut them the off...What the did they think was going to happen when they spent 5 years getting a degree in English, or Art History, or Psychology?
Ah... That's not where my experience is at anyway. Besides, there are plenty of those on the list that a high school education was enough to get started on the ground floor in. I took 1 yr of drafting in high school for example. Some states, you don't need college top be a lawyer. Just have to pass the bar exam.
Lets face it. Not all fields need college. Today, it's needed to make up for what schools lack. It's been more than 30 years since I was in High School. Schools really suck compared to back then.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091004/...unfilled/print
CC thinks undergrad school should be a vocational/technical school, like a glorified Fox Tech, but when people are trained for specific areas, they miss out of broader "liberal"/cultural/critical thinking education and end up ignorant and sheeple voting for Repugs and conservatives.
I didnt look it up, but just for perspective, Sweden's government employs 30% of its people.
Thats what I was referring to and I know America isnt there yet. Should have been more clear.
Expanding the government employee pool is exactly that. Since the private market cant produce the necessary jobs, I dont think its prudent the government do it for us, is my point.
Meh, very true. But most problems find the path of least resistance and proposing a feel-good, easy-street solution like expanding the government employ in an attempt to stem the mounting job losses seems much too appealing in the face of the alternatives.Why would you NOT consider any particular option in the face of adversity? Consideration does not equal enactment.
In any event, does a drowning man refuse a flotation device based upon its color?
So it's cool to have a broad liberal/cultural/critical thinking education and be 25 years old, no job, and living off your parents? At least you have plenty of time to play video games and post on the internet and make fun of those damned narrow minded conservatives.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091004/...unfilled/print
CC thinks undergrad school should be a vocational/technical school, like a glorified Fox Tech, but when people are trained for specific areas, they miss out of broader "liberal"/cultural/critical thinking education and end up ignorant and sheeple voting for Repugs and conservatives.
I'd be cool with that now, but when I was 25, I wasn't.So it's cool to have a broad liberal/cultural/critical thinking education and be 25 years old, no job, and living off your parents?
Color me shocked.
i know. don't you hate it when people make generalizations about specific groups? i mean, how myopic is that kind of logic.
"narrow minded conservatives"
Please, you flatter yourself. It's close-minded conservatives.
I'm sorry, but nearly every economist I read keeps saying that we needed more government stimulus not less. I just don't buy that we should somehow be sticking to asking for less government intervention when all of the people who know whats going on are saying we need more of it.
I'm not advocating more government jobs but more government spending in any event. People keep worrying about the debt but they do not realize that if the economy does not grow the debt does.
I have read economist after economist after economist say that the real danger is not short term deficit spending but a long term stagnant economy stuck in a liquidity trap.
many months ago, Reich and Krugman were both saying the risk was the stimulus (not the bailout) being too small, not too big. The hole was huge, the hole filling had to match it.
And yes, with the economy back in health and growing with job holders and business paying taxes, the deficit would be paid down, just like Clinton did in paying down the national debt in the 90s during the "longest economic expansion in peace time"
classic Keynesian economic mgmt.
But Congress will now block any increase in stimulus funds, with the Repugs screaming "govt takeover", blah blah blah, and doing everything possible to spite Magic Negro and make him fail, no matter how bad it is for US citizens, while the chicken Dems will cower before the Repug hateful insanity.
How old are you? Do you actually have a job? do you support yourself and/or a family?
As they should.
I disagree with about half of Keynesian Economics. Thing is, it applies 0% to today's problems.
The primary reason I believe Keynesian economics has helped in the past is because it was used to get people to spend more money. His theory has to do with financial assets not in the market, but just being saved. His approach gets people to maintain a reinvigorated economy by saving less and spending more. Today, most consumers have more debt than savings. Because of this, Keynesian economics will harm us rather than hurt us.
People, this is not the case anymore. For spending by the government to improve the economy, we have to have good jobs for people. to continue to have money to spend. Everything our government doing is counterproductive to this.
More taxes, less money to spend.
More regulations less profit for companies and salaries.
More free trade, less manufacturing jobs that historically paid well.
Government is the problem. Not the solution. For Keynesian economics to bail us out of this one, we need to return the exported jobs to the USA, or create new ones. The government only creates jobs that are a burden to the tax payer. The private sector creates the jobs we need, but government policies make it harder and harder as time goes by. Government needs to take a serious look at the problems they cause, and stop causing them, then go back and fix the problems caused bu the government.
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