At this point what the right. See if Vince can do anything.
play vince young, moron
collins sucks, always has, always will. a natural born loser
young has done nothing but find ways to win, even in bad performances
He must be showing absolutely nothing in practice if he isn't even an option at this point.
I hope he plays next Sunday so Mathis and Freeney can chode bload his sorry ass.
He gives all awareness +5 on Madden. I always sign him when the ans fire him.
When I saw the score, I wondered if Vince Young had made it into the game. He couldn't have done much worse. It's like last year with Brad Johnson. I was screaming for Brooks Bollinger to get in the game. Even said, he could throw 3 interceptions on his first 3 passes and I wouldn't care. I was just so tired of seeing Brad Johnson in the game.
I'd imagine that ans fans are feeling that way about Collins right now.
Please play him...please. That way it's a guarantee that the Tacks will keep on sucking.
Here's to 0-5...and may Bud Adams burn in .![]()
If Vince Young is ever going to be successful as a member of the ans, this is the ideal time to insert him in the lineup. The bar is set low right now seeing as how they are a winless team with a bad defense. It could be the perfect time for him to regain any confidence lost.
He's had great success agains the Colts. Be careful what you wish for. Even if Vince got in and played awesome, they would probably lose because their D sucks.
I'm not sure why people hate on VY so much, unless it's because he was wildly successful in college and people love it when he finally plays poorly. He had a stellar rookie year and a so-so sop re effort (both years the ans were a playoff team). He hasn't done anything to prove he can't at least be a run-of-the-mill NFL QB.
Who says he's not an option? It's a big decision to bench your starting QB.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4532772
"Kerry gives us our best chance to win,'' coach Jeff Fisher said Sunday after a 37-17 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Sounds like he isn't an option to me.
After everything that happened last year, Fisher's not going to play him at 0-15. He's done with the ans. Hopefully he'll get a shot with another franchise.
Jeff Fisher can say things like that because he's Jeff Fisher, the longest tenured coach in the NFL with 1 team.
Having said that, he's probably going to be stubborn and play Collins 2 more games. If the ans end up at 1-5 or worse, Collins should be done. He really should have been done after the first half of the last game, but yeah.
... yeah, except for that whole 2007 9 TD 17 INT season that ended with the 'Colts bench 95% of the starters and the ans still barely win' game.
And that whole 2008, "oh noes, I'm not the starter so I'll have to fake my own disappearance so people will actually care about me" thing.
And that whole, boy did I ever suck donkey balls in the 2009 pre-season.
Yeah, other than that, Young is always an upstanding fella and a winner.
Fearless prediction:
Young will be cut during the offseason; bank on it.
Finally plays poorly? Stellar rookie year? I'll give a pass on his play as a rook because he was a rook but his play since then hasn't improved in the least bit.
And saying Young had a so-so 2nd year is like saying Russell is having a so-so year thus far.
Barring a miracle, he's done in Tennessee.
.....and with the #3 pick in the draft.....the ans select....colt mccoy....
that would be awesome for so many reasons.
that little guy won't be going that high dude...But I suppose a Vince/Colt preseason battle would be amusing
That's called working the media and saying the correct things...see it for what it is. He's just buying himself and Kerry Collins as much time as possible because he doesn't want to have to make a drastic change in his lineup unless absolutely necessary (especially since no one believes in Vince Young). He's just prolonging the inevitable, IMO, seeing as how Collins is on the other side of 35 and they could lose their next four games (Colts, Pats, Jags, 49ers).
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/pos...p-implications
Highly doubtful considering Bud Adams is one of VY's biggest fans and they would save more money by waiting a year longer and cutting him in 2011. He will take over for Kerry Collins at some point this season or he will eventually be traded. I guarantee you eyes would light up around the league and the ans would receive calls if VY was made available. I know you'd love to see him simply be cut, but it's not logical to do so. Possible...but not logical. Still upset about that come-from-behind win in Stillwater, huh?
By finally playing poorly, I'm stating that the guy has been regarded as a freak of nature and treated like the second coming since his high school days (I'm assuming you're not from Texas). It wasn't until his second year in the NFL that he showed he was human and capable of screwing up.
You'll take a pass on his rookie year because you know it was a stellar year for him. He was far and away the most impressive offensive first year player and he had some incredible performances. He was selected as Rookie of the Year and a Pro-Bowl alternate for a reason. He's proven he can play.
It's not the same at all, actually. The ans went to the Playoffs with Vince Young and the Raiders will continue to go nowhere.
All in all, I don't understand how people can come to such a concrete conclusion about a guy after he's played one great year and one bad year in the NFL.
Last edited by TFloss32; 10-06-2009 at 11:38 AM.
Vince went to playoffs once as a Starter. Where are you getting the second year form?
They went 8-8 in 2006 and missed the playoffs. In 2007, they barely beat out the Browns. In 2008, he was benched after the first or second game and the ans finished 13-3.
I apologize, I got 2006 mixed up and forgot they barely missed the AFC wildcard. I'll fix my post.
Everyone forgets that Vince made the playoffs because Dungy was doing Fisher a favor (which ended up getting his own team booted from the playoffs).
Vince barely beat 85% of the Colts third-quarter preseason defense.
VY has a base salary of 7.5 mil for 2010. His roster bonus is 4.25. Because of escalators, his total cap number for 2010 will be 14.21 mil. 14+ mil for a headcase on the bench. They will have to pay him to cut him, but they would save 9.29 mil if they just flat cut him. His cap number goes up to over 15 mil in 2011.
Buh-bye.
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