Tinhat?

[Wild Cobra]

"Never release new medicines because there is no way to know"

your infinite faith in ins utions like the military, BigPharma, and, horrors, FDA is touching.

I'd say "never release new medicines" unless

1) ALL the studies (good and bad outcomes) are published (BP suppresses bad outcomes)

2) done by non-BigPharma people

3) not paid for by BigPharma

BigPharma + captured FDA is a as totally corrupt as BigFinance and FED/Treasury/SEC

There is oversight, and there is acceptable risk that is balanced between the pros and cons. Problem is, even when we try to do things right, we aren't perfect.

Now, I will agree to prosecuting executives in such industries that purposely doctor reports, misreporting risks.

I don't understand you. You complain about how expensive something is that costs billions already to bring to market, then you want to make it even more expensive.

Where is your balance in life?

[symple19]

Yes, I was given a whole load of shots in my military career as well, however, I don't believe any were with bad intent.

Nor do I. Just wanted to underline the fact that you have to take what they tell you to take.

This could be a BS report, I was simply saying that it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I definitely don't believe the reasons behind giving these guys the vaccine, if true, were nefarious.

[Wild Cobra]

Nor do I. Just wanted to underline the fact that you have to take what they tell you to take.

This could be a BS report, I was simply saying that it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I definitely don't believe the reasons behind giving these guys the vaccine, if true, were nefarious.

I'll only worry if our politicians try to make it mandatory to inoculate the whole population. I haven't received an immunization since 1992, and I don't plan to.

[PEP]

Yes, but the tinhat theory would assume that they knew those drugs were bad, and tested them on the military anyways to determine the effects. Giving us drugs that weren't completely tested wouldn't be tinhat.

Come on buttons, those Anthrax and other "shots" I received during Desert Storm didnt cause me any problems. I'm sure the reason I cant sleep at night or have these recurring "bumps" on my hands I got while in the desert were just normal illnesses that I never had before the shots.

From what I remember we had to sign a do ent before getting them since they hadn't been approved yet.

[Wild Cobra]

From what I remember we had to sign a do ent before getting them since they hadn't been approved yet.

What if you didn't sign?

[symple19]

What if you didn't sign?

My guess would be some form of UCMJ...lol, gotta love the Army

[PEP]

What if you didn't sign?

Who knows, I was a 18 year old back then and didnt even think of that at the time. They took us in small groups, there were only 4 of us at a time.

[Laker Lanny]

I don't think I could continue to serve if I thought that soldiers were WILLING guinea pigs.

VA Still Using War Veterans As Guinea Pigs

http://www.thenhf.com/articles/artic...ticles_735.htm

http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=6659.0;wap2

[Alex Jones]

[boutons_deux]

WC, do you realized how contradictory are your positions of "I trust ins utions and prioritize them over citizens" versus "I hate government".

There is no oversight of drug testing. It's done by BigPharma and rubber-stamped by captured FDA.

[LnGrrrR]

Hmm interesting link Lanny. Although, even if I were faced with near-overwhelming evidence, in honesty I think I would just mentally block it out. In order to be in the military, you sometimes have to take things on faith... like the fact that they're trying to help you with flu shots and not use you as a guinea pig.

I know this is somewhat illogical, but I find it essential to keep that mindset for my mental well-being.