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and guess what ? we still are.How's that hope and change working for ya?
thats where we buried them, micca.
i'm glad you remembered.
and guess what ? we still are.How's that hope and change working for ya?
you aren't. don't act like you care now.
it's being addressed for the first time in 8 years. that's without question, change.How's that hope and change working for ya?
Political =/ poll numbers.
Yeah I guess it's being adressed on various tarmacks between dates with mic e on their FAAAAAAB, and very sexy marriage.....keep your eye on the birdie.
McCrystal is an ass-hat for putting this out there in the press so the wing-nuts could fain indignation for a war they themselves ignored for 7 years...the reason we are where we are today is because Rummy, Dubya, Cheney and all the other neo s decided to go into Iraq rather than finish the job in Afghanistan first...
WC, a civilian is top of the chain of command, n'est-ce-pas?
As in the president. Yes. Then why did you use the plural form? That is confusing.
Are you saying the General was doing things the president didn't allow him to? Are you saying he tried? What was your point then?Cons ution says civilians run wars, not the generals.
Consensus among conservatives is that the general should resign if President Obama doesn't give him the troops and support he asks for.
Better to resign than be blamed for the fallout!
blame is not up for debate.
Why are conservatives trying to tell a general what to do?
How political of you -- of course, it's all politics with you. Success in Afghanistan doesn't matter at all to you -- the only thing that matters is that your side looks good no matter the outcome.
Pathetic.
..the afghani women...
Goodness! All the arm chair privates are out in force!!!
With 20 years and 3 wars behind me I cant wait to retire soon so I can start my new career as a military expert like those on here.
Why are you guys pooping all over the Afghan commander when I'm sure you were all cheering on the Army Chief of Staff when he said more troops were needed in Iraq and he was ignored.
Come on guys you cant be that political can you? Do you have to denigrate the 4 star general, I'm sure he knows what he's talking about and I highly doubt that he knew that this was going to cause such a firestorm. I do think it was pretty bad that he'd only met or talked to the President once since taking command.
The president is the single official CiC, but he doesn't act without his other civilian advisers. And Secy of Defense is also a civilian.
Goodness! All the arm chair privates are out in force!!!
With 20 years and 3 wars behind me I cant wait to retire soon so I can start my new career as a military expert like those on here.
Why are you guys pooping all over the Afghan commander when I'm sure you were all cheering on the Army Chief of Staff when he said more troops were needed in Iraq and he was ignored.
Come on guys you cant be that political can you? Do you have to denigrate the 4 star general, I'm sure he knows what he's talking about and I highly doubt that he knew that this was going to cause such a firestorm. I do think it was pretty bad that he'd only met or talked to the President once since taking command.
Isn't this breaking some sort of chain of command though? and even if not, if I'm the commander, loyal to the President, I'm not gonna go spilling my guts to the press because we know even if we mean well, how it can be manipulated in the press...so while the General many know his , in the , so to say, maybe he best ought to keep his mug away from the cameras, lest someone suspect that he has ulterior motives...
pooping because the lessons learned in Iraq (you can't force democracy and "values" onto alien cultures. was/is no exit strategy, no gain for USA, military and DoD completely misread the country going in) apply even more so in Afghanistan.
MacChrystal's 40K should really be Shinsheki's 400K to pacify truly the entire country.
When the US leaves Iraq and Afghanistan, they will revert to sectarian/tribal holes they've always been. Like in VN, the USA gains nothing from invading Iraq and Afghanistan (but the MIC is 100s of $Bs richer, a key secret reason the neo-c*ns wanted the wars, and want the wars to continue for decades. aka, corporate welfare and wealth transfer from taxpayers to corps)
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