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    How come you follow the government blindly when they tell you who we should go to war with even if unattacked, but when it comes to health care or anything else domestically you think the government can't even manage a local liquor store. I have a hard time following that logic.

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    How come you follow the government blindly when they tell you who we should go to war with even if unattacked, but when it comes to health care or anything else domestically you think the government can't even manage a local liquor store. I have a hard time following that logic.
    Because you don't understand that those of us with a conservative mindset are not following the government. We just happen to agree on some issues and not others.

    Your correlation makes your ignorance show.

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    So who exactly where the people of a "conservative mindset" following if it wasn't the government. I don't know many people of a "conservative mindset" that aren't part of the government (and even those in the government) that actually went to Iraq to look for WMD's before we went in.

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    I don't know many people of a "conservative mindset" that aren't part of the government
    I see. You don't get out much or associate with people outside your circle much.

    OK...

    Or maybe most conservatives just remain silent of their views around liberals.

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    How about reading the whole sentence before you respond. It will stop some of your idiotic responses.

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    How about reading the whole sentence before you respond. It will stop some of your idiotic responses.
    Troll alert!

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    So no explanation?? Not surprised.

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    conservatives say the govt. would suck at running health care.

    But no one ever said the government isn't good at waging war. If history has proven anything, its that govts are good at killing people.

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    How come you follow the government blindly when they tell you who we should go to war with even if unattacked, but when it comes to health care or anything else domestically you think the government can't even manage a local liquor store. I have a hard time following that logic.
    Don't bother bringing up the obvious contradictions...

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    How come you follow the government blindly when they tell you who we should go to war with even if unattacked, but when it comes to health care or anything else domestically you think the government can't even manage a local liquor store. I have a hard time following that logic.
    ......The goverment can't run a liquor store it can't run schools worth a damn it can't run social security it can't run medi care, it can't run one ing thing right, and if you were paying attention alot of the people you call consrvatives didn't like the way they ran the war. also alot of consevatives were the first to condemn the war ron paul,pat buchannan...while alot of democrats voted for the war. It'd be great if it was bush's war but the whole political class has that dead elephant around their necks.when you try and rewrite history you may wanna wait awhile.

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    conservatives say the govt. would suck at running health care.

    But no one ever said the government isn't good at waging war. If history has proven anything, its that govts are good at killing people.
    Ohhhhh yes something to be proud of and a reason to blindly follow the government. If it ain't Americans that are dying then it's ok. Preferably brown people in this day and age.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    ......The goverment can't run a liquor store it can't run schools worth a damn it can't run social security it can't run medi care, it can't run one ing thing right, and if you were paying attention alot of the people you call consrvatives didn't like the way they ran the war. also alot of consevatives were the first to condemn the war ron paul,pat buchannan...while alot of democrats voted for the war. It'd be great if it was bush's war but the whole political class has that dead elephant around their necks.when you try and rewrite history you may wanna wait awhile.

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    Don't bother bringing up the obvious contradictions...
    I truly wonder why.

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    you are new to this board. dont expect any answers just cynical comments hate on the 2 parties and obama

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    these guys just got back from a townhall meeting...

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    ......The goverment can't run a liquor store it can't run schools worth a damn it can't run social security it can't run medi care, it can't run one ing thing right, and if you were paying attention alot of the people you call consrvatives didn't like the way they ran the war. also alot of consevatives were the first to condemn the war ron paul,pat buchannan...while alot of democrats voted for the war. It'd be great if it was bush's war but the whole political class has that dead elephant around their necks.when you try and rewrite history you may wanna wait awhile.
    Come on pretty much every Republican or "people of a conservative mindset" were full on board with the war and many still say it was the right thing to do. I agree that Democrats are spineless and worry about votes just as much as Republicans do, but you can't argue this wasn't a GOP run war. Paul and Buchannan are the exception to the rule. Mainly because Paul stood no chance and Buchannan's political career was over.

    No rewriting of history here. It's pretty much the consensus of both sides. Hence the last couple of election results.

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    you are new to this board. dont expect any answers just cynical comments hate on the 2 parties and obama
    Ohhhhh I've been here before I see the same old faces, with the exception of a couple of new additions. But the same old tired excuses and rationalizations.

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    ......The goverment can't run a liquor store it can't run schools worth a damn it can't run social security it can't run medi care, it can't run one ing thing right, and if you were paying attention alot of the people you call consrvatives didn't like the way they ran the war. also alot of consevatives were the first to condemn the war ron paul,pat buchannan...while alot of democrats voted for the war. It'd be great if it was bush's war but the whole political class has that dead elephant around their necks.when you try and rewrite history you may wanna wait awhile.
    I don't agree with much that you say, but I basically agree with this: it's one big happy war party.

    How this jibes with your reflexive support with the wasteful, irresponsible and incompetent war on terror eludes me, but really, that's your problem, not mine.

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    I see. You don't get out much or associate with people outside your circle much.
    That's the ironic thing about liberals. They claim that Republicans are brainwashed, yet they are utterly incapable of understanding that some people don't share the same views that they do.

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    That's the ironic thing about liberals. They claim that Republicans are brainwashed, yet they are utterly incapable of understanding that some people don't share the same views that they do.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    here's one I don't get. why are people that call themselves conservatives sooooooooooo interested in doing soooooooooo much health insurance companies and absolutely nothing to help their follow man/citizen out to get decent health care?


    by you " for brains" conservatives we are already paying healthcare for others........that is why you pay $10.00 for an asprin when you visit an emergency room.

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    I used to be a card carrying republican, would donate to the RNC and that bull . but the RNC used to be a balance between the rights of citizens and the right to do business. Now the RNC has just become a for big business and nothing else. when corporations beomce your constiuents and you tell the people off I ain't buying it.

    SO now my philiosphy is something like this

    the people > the corporations

    because the people voted these guys in the coorporations didn't

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    I don't claim to speak for Republicans but I definitely know the US blows the out of a country a of a lot more efficiently than it runs it's beaurocracy. Get ing serious.

    Now my question, how come you guys completely distrust the motivations of the Bush admin and completely trust the motivations of the Obama admin?


    It'a not so much that you guys completely distrust one side that bothers me as it is you guys completely trust the other side. Neither side is deserving of blind trust. How come you guys cry abuse of power by the Republiucan Bush Admin but have no problems ceding power to the Democratic Obama admin, never realizing that one day that power will again be in the hands of the Republcians.

    If the logic is that Republicans are untrustworthy and corrupt money grubbers, that means if they are ever swept into power again they will be in charge of that health care program.


    Those of you that are that way are fools. Anyone can see corruption is not limited to one party. It's definitely a politician by politician basis. And even if it isn't, history shows that both parties seem to get their time in near complete control, so what happens when that party you do not trust inherits all that power you gave that party you trusted?


    It's incredibly shortsighted. Party loyalists of both sides are the biggest political idiots in this country. You guys really do put your party over your country. And all those parties are are politicial money making devices and special interests under the mask of governance. I never look at what the government says it intends to happen from it's actions, I always look at what my own insight and history say will happen...it never matters what the government says to me. It is run politicians and their primary skill is not giving a straight answer.
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    I have no problem with what we did in Iraq. I have no problem of what we're doing in Afghanistan. I might have changed some of the tactical moves, but strategically I agree with them.

    Bosnia and Somalia were stupid tho.

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    The only war I would participate in would be one against Progressives.

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