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    Hold on. Race doesn't have a cotton pickin thing to do with athleticism. It's about the individual. When an athlete slaves away to make his body fast and strong, the credit goes to him or her, not some master notion of race or genetics. It's an individual's desire to free himself or herself from the chains of physical limitation the body has on itself. So that athlete will push his or her body like it's being cracked by a whip to get the most athleticism it can out of it. Credit the individual, not the race.
    This sounds well and good to the politically correct crowd, but when 15% of the population composes 85%+ of two professional leagues, the facts speak differently.

    I dont know why and I couldnt fancy a guess as to why it is the way it is, but the bottom line is that black people are (per capita) better athletes than white people.

    They dominate track, American football and basketball. Im sure that list could be longer, thats just off the top of my head.

    I think if there were a concentrated effort on the part of black athletes to excel in other areas (swimming, etc), they would as well.

    I only speak from an American perspective. Black people compose 15% of the total population, yet they dominate in athletics. Most are not rich or come from well-educated families.

    , lets just say it, most are poor and from poverty stricken families. Yet, without the benefit of money for trainers, camps and nutritionists or congenial surroundings, they come out of poverty to absolutely dominate in their sport of choice.

    How many players are taken in the NBA/NFL draft are black? Nearly all of them. Nearly every one.

    Thats athletic domination from a stark minority of the population. , if Mexicans dominated it wouldnt be as curious only because Latinos make up something like 30% of the population, double that of African-Americans.

    No, the facts speak for it. Black people, in America, are (per capita) freakish athletes when compared to any other ehtnicity.

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    Guess I missed the joke, too. Oh well.

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    hee hee

    Apparently, I wrote it well enough and subtly enough...

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    hee hee

    Apparently, I wrote it well enough and subtly enough...
    it would have made jonathan swift proud (or andy kaufman). well done.

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    I just assumed you were a ing idiot. You wouldn't be the first one in here.

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    i really liked the like "a cotton picking thing to do..."

    nice touch

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    I just assumed you were a ing idiot. You wouldn't be the first one in here.


    I know JS from the Pistons forum, not an idiot by any stretch, but this still made me laugh.

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    Well, this thread went about the way I thought it would.
    It's about 10 pages too short.

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    hee hee

    Apparently, I wrote it well enough and subtly enough...

    I got it, and I almost LULZ, but I didnt.

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    I guess it's cool there are only handful of black head coaches in the NFL/College and maybe High School. Sure. Gotcha. No racism in Americas number one sport.

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    So how many black head coaches are there in college?

    Give us a number, jack.

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    I'd like to know how many black coaches should there be. what's a good percent?

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    Sounds like jack should go into coaching since the blacks kept him from going pro.

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    I really am not going to waste my time showing you the proof. Go read about it yourself or you can continue your conspiracy theory. You are black, right? Only blacks who need a self-esteem boost buy into the revisionist bull propagated by other black afrocentrists.
    You're white huh? You are white. I knew that the first moment I read your posts. It seems like your the one needing some kind of esteem boost by trying to deny the history of black civilization. It's sad you feel that you have to feel superior to be proud of your race.

    Also, I recall you saying that all blacks did was dance around a bonfire.

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    Could it be that the brute strength of these whites came from some selective breeding that the Moors took part in while conquering the majority of southeastern Europe, mainly Spain and Portugal?
    Well, they conquered almost the entire Peninsula Iberica (Portugal and Spain still didn't exist, they were formed during the reconquista, by the end of the 10th century), but that's far from a majority of southeastern Europe.

    In any case, it didn't last long and there was nothing remotely closed to a large scale slavery ins uted, let alone something like selective breeding. For much of the occupation, Christians and Moors lived side by side (many cities and villages in Portugal and Spain have neighbourhoods called "Mouraria", that were where Moors . For example, alliances between a Christian king and a Moor king to fight another Moor king (or vice-versa) were pretty common. And there was no kind of racial conflict: Moors weren't blacks or anything, everybody was coming from the ruins of the Roman Empire. The division was basically religious: basically every Portuguese of Spaniard has a dozen of Christianized Moor in his ancestry.

    The reason why the Iberians people later conquered and discovered most of the new worlds had nothing to do with strenght but with thecnichal advancements that were mostly a product of their geographical location. The Moors occupation played a role because it allowed the locals to take contact with techniques developed by them.

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    You're white huh? You are white. I knew that the first moment I read your posts. It seems like your the one needing some kind of esteem boost by trying to deny the history of black civilization. It's sad you feel that you have to feel superior to be proud of your race.

    Also, I recall you saying that all blacks did was dance around a bonfire.
    Incorrect. I'm not white.

    So there goes your theory. and there is no evidence that the Moors or Egyptians are 'black history'. You are a conspiracy theorist that 99% of the world's scholars do not agree with, in fact, afrocentrists are seen as nutjobs and ridiculed where they go.
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    Then why did you reply to it?
    To correct it.

    Good example. To me, Charles Murray writing a book about human intelligence is like a geneticist writing poetry.
    Yeps, that's a great example: there's no reason why a geneticist can't write great poetry. Goethe, for example. A philosopher can make science and a scientist can make philosophy: Theilhard de Chardin, for example. And obviously Charles Murray can make good science or write a good book about human intelligence.

    It's very telling that you don't even try to dispute anything Murray wrote. You just attempt to disqualify him by citing his academic qualifications. You don't even look at the opus, just at the man. That's nothing more than an uncivilized ad hominem argument, with no substantive value.


    Let's just say I'm skeptical that advances in neurobiology are being held up by political correctness.
    I refer you to the quote about the NG program.

    I can't help it if researchers lack the courage of their convictions. They have only themselves to blame if they prize their reputations above their professional and personal integrity.
    Really? So, let's see: you make the bullish insinuation that if a scientist is investigating the genetics of the brain and populations, he has ulterior motives and is a racist. Then if the financers opt to cut funds because they don't want to be associated with accusations of racism or the guy thinks "the heck witht his, I don't want to be a martyr", they lack professional and personal integrity. This is bullyism at his best and a reasoning ever applied by obscurantists of all ages (v.g. Galileo).

    I don't know if the idea that those who can't resist to unfair and bullyish public and peer pressure is scientifically tested, but I'm pretty certain that it is wrong.



    People get called names and everything gets politicized. It's a shame, but it's also not that big a deal.

    What happened to Arthur Jensen isn't too common and it also happened 40 years ago, in a far more explosive social milieu. Putting it forward as an example of what happens to heterodox research now is misleading.

    It's not like Dr. Murray lost his job or something; he was merely denounced as a racist: big effing deal. Then he got a lifetime sinecure with AEI. Wah.

    Watson resigned in shame after spouting some jackassed foolishness. Was the furore overblown? Sure. But Dr Watson deserved the flames. What he said was just about totally unsupported by scientific data. Embarrass the ins ution, lose your job. Dr. Watson should've known better.
    I see that for you being unfairly denounced as a racist and losing jobs because of that is not a big deal because it happens all the time. Dully noted.
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    the reason them negroes are so atheletic is because in afrika back in the day their grandpappy's used to dodge, run and wrestle them lions and tigers and , one with nature and that mumbo jumob gave them six packs and stuff.

    but whites still have the best pg to ever play basketball, so it's all cool.

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    the reason them negroes are so atheletic is because in afrika back in the day their grandpappy's used to dodge, run and wrestle them lions and tigers and , one with nature and that mumbo jumob gave them six packs and stuff.

    but whites still have the best pg to ever play basketball, so it's all cool.
    Nash is Canadian. If he grew up in America he would never had a chance.

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    Nash is Canadian. If he grew up in America he would never had a chance.

    tell that to larry bird.

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    tell that to larry bird.
    I guess when Jackie Robinson was palying ball you could say "America was not racist towards blacks in baseball, tell that to Robinson"

    Tell Mike Singletary the NFL is not racist when they make teams interview blacks for head coaching there is not a race problem.

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    I guess when Jackie Robinson was palying ball you could say "America was not racist towards blacks in baseball, tell that to Robinson"

    Tell Mike Singletary the NFL is not racist when they make teams interview blacks for head coaching there is not a race problem.
    someone woke up waiting to and . save it for the cable company.

    if you toned down your ebenezer meter just a notch you'd get that my point was that nash most definitely would have made it in the NBA had he not been canadian.

    if i wanted to get into a discussion on race with you i would be less subtle, but such a dialogue would be like alain locke and rush limbaugh getting together for a chat on the significance of black culture in the US; a complete waste of time.

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    someone woke up waiting to and . save it for the cable company.

    if you toned down your ebenezer meter just a notch you'd get that my point was that nash most definitely would have made it in the NBA had he not been canadian.

    if i wanted to get into a discussion on race with you i would be less subtle, but such a dialogue would be like alain locke and rush limbaugh getting together for a chat on the significance of black culture in the US; a complete waste of time.

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    if you toned down your ebenezer meter just a notch you'd get that my point was that nash most definitely would have made it in the NBA had he not been canadian..
    What on Earth are you spewing about? I got your point. I disagree with it. Nash would not make it to the NBA if he was raised in the America is my point. Perhaps you should tone down your meter.

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