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    Yeah because it is so easier to avoid the war or pass it on to another president. Just Appease, close your eyes and give money to voters for their votes.
    Are you saying an invasion and occupation of Iraq was inevitable?

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    LOL @ Neocon robots acting like they would've liked MLK, and weren't the ones calling him communist spy back in the 60s.
    It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

    It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860's, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950's and 1960's.
    http://www.nationalblackrepublicans....a%20Republican

    http://www.physicsforums.com/archive.../t-252505.html

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    You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry… Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong…with capitalism… There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.
    Yeah, he was a Republican alright.

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    Are you saying an invasion and occupation of Iraq was inevitable?
    No, nothing is inevitable. Bush could have just as easily cowardly looked the other way towards Iraq. Let Iraq play the games it played- shooting in the NO Fly Zone, starving, killing, raping, torturing its own people, attacking Israel, funding and housing terrorists, invading peaceful neighboring countries. Bush could have pretended like 9-11 didn't happen and go back to when the terrorists were a nuisance. He could have worried about keeping his campaign promises and not tried to nation build. He could have done the absolute minimum and looked at polls every morning to decide how he would answer a national problem.

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    No, nothing is inevitable. Bush could have just as easily cowardly looked the other way towards Iraq. Let Iraq play the games it played- shooting in the NO Fly Zone, starving, killing, raping, torturing its own people, attacking Israel, funding and housing terrorists, invading peaceful neighboring countries. Bush could have pretended like 9-11 didn't happen and go back to when the terrorists were a nuisance. He could have worried about keeping his campaign promises and not tried to nation build. He could have done the absolute minimum and looked at polls every morning to decide how he would answer a national problem.

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    Are you saying an invasion and occupation of Iraq was inevitable?
    Yes.

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    No, nothing is inevitable. Bush could have just as easily cowardly looked the other way towards Iraq. Let Iraq play the games it played- shooting in the NO Fly Zone, starving, killing, raping, torturing its own people, attacking Israel, funding and housing terrorists, invading peaceful neighboring countries. Bush could have pretended like 9-11 didn't happen and go back to when the terrorists were a nuisance. He could have worried about keeping his campaign promises and not tried to nation build. He could have done the absolute minimum and looked at polls every morning to decide how he would answer a national problem.
    So you're saying Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks.

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    Why?

    I mean, as long as the neocons were influencing Bush I could see it as an inevitability, but not necessarily otherwise.

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    Unconvincing.

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    When were you there again? I've spent years over there, before and after the war.

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    When were you there again? I've spent years over there, before and after the war.
    so what. i've spent years wondering what the you were doing there.

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    When were you there again? I've spent years over there, before and after the war.
    So you should be able to elaborate.

    So far, you suck.

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    No, nothing is inevitable. Bush could have just as easily cowardly looked the other way towards Iraq. Let Iraq play the games it played- shooting in the NO Fly Zone, starving, killing, raping, torturing its own people, attacking Israel, funding and housing terrorists, invading peaceful neighboring countries. Bush could have pretended like 9-11 didn't happen and go back to when the terrorists were a nuisance. He could have worried about keeping his campaign promises and not tried to nation build. He could have done the absolute minimum and looked at polls every morning to decide how he would answer a national problem.
    We were attacked by al-qaeda and bush attcked iraq! great decision!

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    So you should be able to elaborate.

    So far, you suck.
    Go run along and go play with your mommy. Oh wait, I forgot.

    When you and the others on here were probably still wacking off to Britney Spears videos you werent there seeing the no fly zone violations, UN violations, etc, it was only a matter of time before the world, not just the US was going to have to finally act in taking out Saddam. It was only a matter of time until there was an incident where either a jet/helicopter was shot down.

    And unlike your petty partisan politics I would back any President with making a decision to go in and take him out.

    I'm sure if I had been a gay soldier coming out and bashing Bush about an illegal war in Iraq you'd all be lining up to suck me off. So like I said go run along kiddies just because you've never amounted to much in life, you wont be able to tell your kids an grandkids you never really accomplished anything in your life, oh you finished college and have a good paying job, how nice. Try making a sacrifice for once, and no I dont mean stop buying starbucks for a month.

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    Go run along and go play with your mommy. Oh wait, I forgot.

    When you and the others on here were probably still wacking off to Britney Spears videos you werent there seeing the no fly zone violations, UN violations, etc, it was only a matter of time before the world, not just the US was going to have to finally act in taking out Saddam. It was only a matter of time until there was an incident where either a jet/helicopter was shot down.

    And unlike your petty partisan politics I would back any President with making a decision to go in and take him out.

    I'm sure if I had been a gay soldier coming out and bashing Bush about an illegal war in Iraq you'd all be lining up to suck me off. So like I said go run along kiddies just because you've never amounted to much in life, you wont be able to tell your kids an grandkids you never really accomplished anything in your life, oh you finished college and have a good paying job, how nice. Try making a sacrifice for once, and no I dont mean stop buying starbucks for a month.
    So if I don't serve in the military then I haven't accomplished anything in my life? I personally don't think violating the no fly zone was worth 4,000 + US lives and hundred thousand dead innocent iraqis.. so thank you for your service and your full of sh*t

    parents make sacrifices every day you deuche.

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    Go run along and go play with your mommy. Oh wait, I forgot.
    You forgot she is dead and you are laughing about the fact she is dead?

    When you and the others on here were probably still wacking off to Britney Spears videos you werent there seeing the no fly zone violations, UN violations, etc, it was only a matter of time before the world, not just the US was going to have to finally act in taking out Saddam. It was only a matter of time until there was an incident where either a jet/helicopter was shot down.
    I saw the no fly zone violations. Not really a pretext for a full-scale invasion and occupation.

    And no invasion and occupation should ever be started over thinking one plane will be shot down.

    And unlike your petty partisan politics I would back any President with making a decision to go in and take him out.
    So just being an oppressive dictator is cause for invasion and occupation? If you want to be the world police, that's fine. We'll always be at war in that case -- even with many of our present allies.

    I'm sure if I had been a gay soldier coming out and bashing Bush about an illegal war in Iraq you'd all be lining up to suck me off.
    Why do you guys always turn gay in every thread?

    So like I said go run along kiddies just because you've never amounted to much in life, you wont be able to tell your kids an grandkids you never really accomplished anything in your life, oh you finished college and have a good paying job, how nice. Try making a sacrifice for once, and no I dont mean stop buying starbucks for a month.
    Man, you are making all kinds of assumptions here.

    And turning gay.

    You still suck at this -- and I'm not talking about s, so don't start touching yourself, ok?

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    Go run along and go play with your mommy. Oh wait, I forgot.

    When you and the others on here were probably still wacking off to Britney Spears videos you werent there seeing the no fly zone violations, UN violations, etc, it was only a matter of time before the world, not just the US was going to have to finally act in taking out Saddam. It was only a matter of time until there was an incident where either a jet/helicopter was shot down.

    And unlike your petty partisan politics I would back any President with making a decision to go in and take him out.

    I'm sure if I had been a gay soldier coming out and bashing Bush about an illegal war in Iraq you'd all be lining up to suck me off. So like I said go run along kiddies just because you've never amounted to much in life, you wont be able to tell your kids an grandkids you never really accomplished anything in your life, oh you finished college and have a good paying job, how nice. Try making a sacrifice for once, and no I dont mean stop buying starbucks for a month.
    That was funny dude

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    you like that, micca?

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    You forgot she is dead and you are laughing about the fact she is dead?

    I saw the no fly zone violations. Not really a pretext for a full-scale invasion and occupation.

    And no invasion and occupation should ever be started over thinking one plane will be shot down.

    So just being an oppressive dictator is cause for invasion and occupation? If you want to be the world police, that's fine. We'll always be at war in that case -- even with many of our present allies.

    Why do you guys always turn gay in every thread?

    Man, you are making all kinds of assumptions here.

    And turning gay.

    You still suck at this -- and I'm not talking about s, so don't start touching yourself, ok?
    Your pathetic Chimp you find the war in Iraq an outrage and then call the afgahn war the "good war" your moral outrage is bull .

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    hey pep, the only reason you're alive is because we're paying them not to kill you.

    you should remember that.

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    Your pathetic Chimp you find the war in Iraq an outrage and then call the afgahn war the "good war" your moral outrage is bull .
    Invading Afghanistan made sense.

    Invading and occupying Iraq at the same time did not.

    It's not a moral outrage as much as an outrage born of common sense.

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    I don't really care who wins a Nobel Prize for what, I just know it's in poor taste to attack a winner because he isn't your guy. You're spoiled and childish- throwing a tantrum. The political equivalent of Kanye West.
    I think you jump to the wrong conclusion. Full text of Alfred Nobel's Will:

    I, the undersigned, Alfred Bernhard Nobel, do hereby, after mature deliberation, declare the following to be my last Will and Testament with respect to such property as may be left by me at the time of my death:

    To my nephews,

    <snip... family, servants, etc.>

    The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall cons ute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind. The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics; one part to the person who shall have made the most important chemical discovery or improvement; one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who shall have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction; and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses. The prizes for physics and chemistry shall be awarded by the Swedish Academy of Sciences; that for physiological or medical work by the Caroline Ins ute in Stockholm; that for literature by the Academy in Stockholm, and that for champions of peace by a committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting. It is my express wish that in awarding the prizes no consideration whatever shall be given to the nationality of the candidates, but that the most worthy shall receive the prize, whether he be a Scandinavian or not.

    <snip - other unrelated remarks to the prize>

    Paris, 27 November, 1895

    Alfred Bernhard Nobel
    OK, let's look at this: "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Has he done the most or best for peace between two nations? How about reduction of standing Armies? How about the most or best at brokering peace?

    This prize is not according to Alfred Nobel's will. Anyone with pride should be ashamed that such a prize is given by popularity rather than it's intent.
    Hitler was nominated in 1939
    I think at some point, all heads of state were nominated. In my view, this gave them time between the deadline for sumbission and award to do something that merits the award.
    When I saw the thread le this morning, I seriously thought it was going to be an SNL skit or something.
    I didn't. Already heard it on the radio. However, it would seem like such a fantasy if Gore didn't already win it.
    LOL @ Neocon robots acting like they would've liked MLK, and weren't the ones calling him communist spy back in the 60s.
    Interesting.

    Refresh my memory, but I thought it was a democrat controlled government that did that. I thought the republicans voted in the 80's percentile for the 1964 Civil Rights Act and democrats only in the 60's.

    Can you back that up, or did you eat nothing but beans today?

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    OK, let's look at this: "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Has he done the most or best for peace between two nations? How about reduction of standing Armies? How about the most or best at brokering peace?
    So who did better this past year?

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    I don't know how anyone can any longer take this puppet regime seriuoslly. It' so transparentlly a staged circus. Although I don't think Obama would have had a chance of winning except for the walking on water thing and the changing water into wine.
    I mean it's hilarious to watch the moonbats start frothing over fundamentalist christians a suppers ious neanderthals, while they build this scarecrow prop him up and chant the mantra of big brother.Makes snake handeling look downright scientific.

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