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    Why are you so convinced that Ron will guard smaller quicker players? Could Ariza guard Carmello and Lebron?...no...if Ron cant guard a smaller quicker player, then let Kobe guard him...sheesh.
    What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.

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    What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.
    But, Ric is a bag & headPERIOD

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    I was thrilled with 3 in-a-row. You'd be too except you'll never know.
    Ooo feisty! I guess I'll have to go home with the consolation prize, San Antonio having only our three championships in the decade (pending) and one of the best winning percentages in all of sports. I should hang my head in shame, huh?

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    What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.
    If you and Bucher believe that then you're both delusional. Ariza played 24 minutes per game last season. Artest will be playing around 34+.

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    What does that matter or how does that change the fact Ron will struggle to guard the types of players Ariza did well on?

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    Ooo feisty! I guess I'll have to go home with the consolation prize, San Antonio having only our three championships in the decade (pending)
    Me feisty!? Ha! You went bananas the other nite cuz I busted yer balls over Fox & Parkinsons. You got no f'in room.

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    Decade is over, Bell. We closed it out with our 15th. Yer out of luck.

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    What does that matter or how does that change the fact Ron will struggle to guard the types of players Ariza did well on?
    Ariza guarded SF for the most part last season. For only 24 minutes a game. When Melo and Bron torched him Kobe had to move down and guard those players. He won't have too with Artest here playing many more minutes than Ariza.

    It's simple math really. Did you even graduate high school?

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    Laker fan does not understand simple observation.
    It's not an observation. Flat out fallacy. Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAL7.HTM#bypos

    Where are you getting that Ariza defended quicker shooting guards all season?

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    Laker fan does not understand simple observation.

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    Me feisty!? Ha! You went bananas the other nite cuz I busted yer balls over Fox & Parkinsons. You got no f'in room.

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    Decade is over, Bell. We closed it out with our 15th. Yer out of luck.
    You were indirectly insulting my father, who has Pakinson's, and his condition. I would like to see a person alive that loves their father not feel furious when confronted with the same sickening mockery. You have no class.

    So if the decade is over '08/'09 then our 99 trophy is counted within this last decade. So in that case, I do stand corrected, we have four les in the decade. It's gotta be one or the other Cubby.

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    Ariza guarded SF for the most part last season. For only 24 minutes a game. When Melo and Bron torched him Kobe had to move down and guard those players. He won't have too with Artest here playing many more minutes than Ariza.

    It's simple math really. Did you even graduate high school?

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    It's not an observation. Flat out fallacy. Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAL7.HTM#bypos

    Where are you getting that Ariza defended quicker shooting guards all season?
    21 IQ trying to educate somebody.

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    Where did I say he guarded SG's all season or that it was a primary responsibility?

    I said that Ariza gave the Lakers the ability to switch a longer player onto quicker players so that Kobe did not have to do the work.

    Lakers lost that ability now with the Ron for Ariza swap.

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    You were indirectly insulting my father, who has Pakinson's, and his condition. I would like to see a person alive that loves their father not feel furious when confronted with the same sickening mockery. You have no class.

    So if the decade is over '08/'09 then our 99 trophy is counted within this last decade. So in that case, I do stand corrected, we have four les in the decade. It's gotta be one or the other Cubby.
    Tough ties. My entire family has been insulted, your father ain't no special case.

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    No, your '99 strike ring is counted in the '90s. You have 1 ring (the strike one) in the '90s. And you have 3 regular rings this decade. We have 4 regular rings this decade.

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    Where did I say he guarded SG's all season or that it was a primary responsibility?
    Then back up your assertion that Ron will struggle defending the same players Ariza defended and that Kobe will have to work more on defense.

    Because they are baseless statements that make no sense.

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    I said that Ariza gave the Lakers the ability to switch a longer player onto quicker players so that Kobe did not have to do the work.
    Again, Ariza guarded shooting forwards the majority of the game. And was torched in the limited amount of time he defended the SG position. Click the link above.

    Lakers lost that ability now with the Ron for Ariza swap.
    The Lakers gained the ability to put Ron on an Island with the likes of Lebron, Carmelo and Pierce. Something they could never do with Ariza here.

    How does that translate to Kobe working more on defense when Artest will be guarding the other team's best perimeter player for more minutes per game than Ariza did?
    Last edited by 21_Blessings; 10-11-2009 at 05:50 PM.

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    Then back up your assertion that Ron will struggle defending the same players Ariza defended and that Kobe will have to work more on defense.

    Because they are baseless statement that make no sense.
    Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?

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    Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?
    Give a working example instead of a vague line like "smaller quicker players".

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    Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?
    I'll answer Ariza.

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    This isn't Jeopardy. I don't need an answer in the form of another question.

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    This isn't Jeopardy. I don't need an answer in the form of another question.
    Nice backpedal.

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    Love the .258 FG% Ariza is posting in the pre-season.

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    Love the .258 FG% Ariza is posting in the pre-season.
    Typical Laker "fan" response. Get asked a question, hear an answer you don't like, resort to something that has nothing to do with the topic.

    Someone pointed out the obvious that Ron is slower than Ariza and will struggle with quicker players. That's not true, even though it is.

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    Typical Laker "fan" response. Get asked a question, hear an answer you don't like, resort to something that has nothing to do with the topic.
    You haven't answered any of my questions even though I blatantly and factually shot down your false assertions. Keep backpedaling.

    Someone pointed out the obvious that Ron is slower than Ariza and will struggle with quicker players. That's not true, even though it is.
    You said that Kobe will have to work harder on defense. Which is a lie. Then you said Artest will struggle guarding the same type of players Ariza defended (he defended SF all season and playoffs). Which is a lie.

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    You are not bright. Read back. This thread is about Ron being too slow to guard quick players. Ariza was able to do that better than Ron. Now Kobe HAS to do it.

    LMAO at you sons thinking you have proven anything. People are mocking you.

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    You are not bright. Read back.
    Says the guy who can't even remember what he posted on the last page.

    This thread is about Ron being too slow to guard quick players. Ariza was able to do that better than Ron.
    Lebron and Carmelo aren't quick players? Haha. Guess who defends them better? Right, Ron Artest does.

    Now Kobe HAS to do it.
    Kobe was doing it last season as well. Now he'll be doing it this season for 10+ less minutes. How is that working harder on defense again?

    LMAO at you sons thinking you have proven anything. People are mocking you.
    Actually people are laughing at the Spurs. Why are we talking about the Lakers All-NBA perimeter defense when the Spurs will be playing Richard Jefferson and Manu Ginobili?

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    I wonder if they will just ban all NBA players from twittering...

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    And if they do, do they ban them facebook, myspace etc? It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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