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    I wasn't a Bush cheerleader.

    Pixelpusher-where does no-bid contracts come into this? I am against that. Unlike you BHO cheerleaders, I have an idea I didn't pick up from a MSNBC talking head. Obama and the dems do it too. No bid is one of the most corrupt govt. problems, next to unions.
    Despite Wild Cobra's apocalyptic rant about all the jobs that will be lost and laywers that will get paid, the net result of this defense spending amendment is that one corporation is negatively affected. That corporation, Halliburton, just happens to be the Undisputed, Icon Of The Ages, Grand Champion of no-bid contracts.

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    so...she broke up with your wallet.
    Not at all. She's just a friend first of all, I use to go out with a friend of hers. Now I did buy some jewelry, but your insinuations are so ing re ed. How many ex wives do you have?

    See, you liberals resort to defaming people when you have no good argument against them.

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    SO once again this is your version of justice? Yeah ing liberals. With your amendments to take away money from a company. Not give it to the victim, just take it from the co. GO ahead. Take a bow.
    So you think the federal government should subsidize corporations that shield themselves from charges of rape and assault?

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    I'm about done arguing with these fools. They immediately jumnp to opinions, offer nothing vredible against our arguments.

    Notice how they keep going to the same points we agree with, and act as if we don't?

    They are not intelligent enough to counter the good points we have, and resort to changing the argument, or name-calling.
    Yeah sometimes I forget that they don't even read what we put, they just scan for misspellings.

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    Despite Wild Cobra's apocalyptic rant about all the jobs that will be lost and laywers that will get paid, the net result of this defense spending amendment is that one corporation is negatively affected. That corporation, Halliburton, just happens to be the Undisputed, Icon Of The Ages, Grand Champion of no-bid contracts.
    That's not true. The legislation applies to all contractors with the DoD that fall under US law.

    Why is the amendment here like spursncowboys points out? Why are we limiting this legislation to the Department of Defense contractors, and not contractors of other government agencies? If it's good law, why isn't it being made part of the Arbitration Fairness Act? Shouldn't it apply to every business in the USA?

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    Not at all. She's just a friend first of all, I use to go out with a friend of hers. Now I did buy some jewelry, but your insinuations are so ing re ed.
    cash, jewelry and begging wasn't enough, huh?
    How many ex wives do you have?
    none, but i bet you have at least one very happy one.
    See, you liberals resort to defaming people when you have no good argument against them.
    you're protecting a company that rapes.

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    That's not true. The legislation applies to all contractors with the DoD that fall under US law.
    Other government contracted corps raped their employees too? Do tell...

    Why is the amendment here like spursncowboys points out?
    Why can't you and spursncowboys comprehend why an amendment specifically regarding the allocation of defense funds would be in a defense funding bill? Amazing...

    Why are we limiting this legislation to the Department of Defense contractors, and not contractors of other government agencies? If it's good law, why isn't it being made part of the Arbitration Fairness Act? Shouldn't it apply to every business in the USA?
    Yes. If you two can't grok the difference between a contract dispute and a violent assault, I can't help you...

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    Other government contracted corps raped their employees too? Do tell...
    How does it matter? It will not address the legal concerns of this case. It's an ex-post-facto law!
    Why can't you and spursncowboys comprehend why an amendment specifically regarding the allocation of defense funds would be in a defense funding bill? Amazing...
    Are you admitting to democrats targeting only one corporation? Isn't that illegal? Is it right? Are you admitting you are for such actions of bias?
    Yes. If you two can't grok the difference between a contract dispute and a violent assault, I can't help you...
    I can and I do understand. If such legislation has any merit, why is it limited to the DoD? I wonder what Boeing thinks of the manager angle of this? Maybe this will force the DoD to only buy from Airbus?

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    How does it matter? It will not address the legal concerns of this case. It's an ex-post-facto law!
    All new laws are ex-post-facto, dumbass...we pass them to prevent it in the future.

    Are you admitting to democrats targeting only one corporation? Isn't that illegal? Is it right? Are you admitting you are for such actions of bias?
    Yes they are, and not it's not, because Halliburton isn't singled out specifically...they just happen to be the one defense contracted corporation trying to get away with raping their empolyees. And yes, I am biased against corporations that rape their employees.

    I can and I do understand. If such legislation has any merit, why is it limited to the DoD? I wonder what Boeing thinks of the manager angle of this? Maybe this will force the DoD to only buy from Airbus?
    Relax WC, this whoe "raping the employee" thing isn't the backbone of military-industrial complex...this isn't going to shut it down.

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    All new laws are ex-post-facto, dumbass...we pass them to prevent it in the future.
    Then why not at least write legislation that applies to all government contracts? Why just the DoD? Are you saying it could never happen maybe to Blackwater contracted under the State Department?
    Yes they are, and not it's not, because Halliburton isn't singled out specifically...they just happen to be the one defense contracted corporation trying to get away with raping their empolyees. And yes, I am biased against corporations that rape their employees.
    I'm against the rape also. I say there should be long jail sentences not just for the seven who raped her, but everyone in the attempted cover-up also.

    You simply do not pass bad law because it has one good thing in it. What part of that don't you understand?
    Relax WC, this whoe "raping the employee" thing isn't the backbone of military-industrial complex...this isn't going to shut it down.
    If that was all that was covered...

    Apparently you don't understand the implications of Frankin's amendment. It goes way past le VII protection from arbitration. I suggest you read it carefully and look at the abuses that can occur because of the law.

    You know, if it was only addressing le VII, I could agree with it.

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    ...I'm assuming. I'm sure these guys had a "good" reason to oppose this amendment, I just lack the proper Burkean perspective to see it myself. Maybe one the board conservatives can enlighten me.

    Ok, now that we got the bipartisan, "give the other side the benefit of the doubt" niceties out of the way, on with the show.
    Why would anyone want to work for Haliburton?

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    Why would anyone want to work for Haliburton?
    Why does anyone work? Maybe it's the best offer someone has.

    They need the money. It's a job, good or bad, WORK is a four letter word.

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    whatever else this is, its a gift to the legal industry.

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    whatever else this is, its a gift to the legal industry.
    A real big gift. Funny how the democrats do almost what ever the trial lawyers want.

    Democrats want to lower the cost of medicine, but refuse to use serious tort reform. Could you imagine if frivolous lawsuits were a thing of the past? How many things would be cheaper?

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    ^ wc protecting rapist if it would hurt a conservatives bottom line.

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    ^ wc protecting rapist if it would hurt a conservatives bottom line.
    how?

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    you didn't read the thread?

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    Funny how the democrats do almost what ever the trial lawyers want.
    Funny how republicans do almost what ever corporate interests want.

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    whatever else this is, its a gift to the legal industry.
    Yes, if rape victims get to sue the companies that literally raped them, we all lose.

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    Apparently you don't understand the implications of Frankin's amendment. It goes way past le VII protection from arbitration. I suggest you read it carefully and look at the abuses that can occur because of the law.

    You know, if it was only addressing le VII, I could agree with it.
    Yeah...maybe if I had listened to right wing radio 24/7 for the past 2 decades I'd get why your fears of imagined abuses would trump the real life abuses that have already occured.

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    Yes, if rape victims get to sue the companies that literally raped them, we all lose.
    Employees of the company raped an employee. Then other employees covered it up and denied her her rights by holding her. Stop trying to create boogy men.

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    Employees of the company raped an employee. Then other employees covered it up and denied her her rights by holding her. Stop trying to create boogy men.
    Stop trying to excuse the corporation that enabled them.

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    I see the GOP is continuing to do a bang up job at picking fights they can't win.

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    Pro-business Repugs will always support ins utions and businesses as they abuse/rape citizens, consumers, employees.

    No surprise that Repugs want to block raped women from suing their employer. A great way to piss off millions of women voters.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-12-2009 at 09:52 PM.

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    Pro-business Repugs will always support ins utions and businesses as they abuse/rape citizens, consumers, employees.

    No surprise that Repugs want to block raped women from suing their employer. A great way to piss of millions of women voters.
    You seem like the kind of guy who I would have to think a little more cognitively if we agreed on something. I would have to double check my bases to make sure I didn't miss something.

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