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    was Whott on the OJ jury?

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    Now let's narrow it down:
    Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid

    Slayer was active in the league all year, so there is little chance it's him

    EricB was active so probably not him

    TimVp was active, probably not him. Although maybe he is using his status around these parts as a strong arm to not pay...still probably not him

    If I am paid then timvp paid, because he paid my fee. If timvp didn't pay we'd be short two fees, not one.



    The Truth quit sometime around May and hasn't shown his face in this thread since. He hasn't even adjusted his lineup in 4 months as he started guys on the DL


    how is there any question as to who it is?

    I'm not saying it's not Truth, but everyone on your non-payment list was in the league last year, including Truth. And he stopped managing his team halfway through last season too.

    You are probably right that it is him but his absentee ownership doesn't mean anything...you notice it's you and Alamo that drew the conclusion on that basis, and both of you are new to the league this year. He did the exact same thing last year with his team and I assume he paid last year since there was no mention of a non-payee.

    The fact that he stopped paying attention doesn't indicate he didn't pay...because he did the exact same thing last year when he did pay.

    Dude probably just forgot, assuming it's him.

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    If I am paid then timvp paid, because he paid my fee. If timvp didn't pay we'd be short two fees, not one.





    I'm not saying it's not Truth, but everyone on your non-payment list was in the league last year, including Truth. And he stopped managing his team halfway through last season too.

    You are probably right that it is him but his absentee ownership doesn't mean anything...you notice it's you and Alamo that drew the conclusion on that basis, and both of you are new to the league this year. He did the exact same thing last year with his team and I assume he paid last year since there was no mention of a non-payee.


    Dude probably just forgot....
    It's not my non payment list, it's FWD's. You can narrow the list down, and looks like you have further taking TimVP off it. So it's either Eric, Slayer, Atrain, or Truth.....logic says it's the guy who quit and hasn't come back since

    I shouldn't even give a . I paid and I don't want an extra $25 to leave the US economy to be shipped over to the Europeans. So I'd be willing to forgive the non payer in honor of Obama and the state of the US economy. But that is just me. It's not like Alamo even picked his own team, a computer did.

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    alls I know is if the Netherlands or Holland or whatever the they want to go by this year had a economic crisis and ran out of wooden shoes and tulips, I wouldn't make a big deal and force them to send $25 over to America. But that is because I'm classy and have a heart.

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    Now let's narrow it down:
    Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid
    Here you go Sherlock holmes so next time you call me "stupid" get your ing facts straight.

    Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #0DU31023MJ2939049)

    Sent to:

    Amount sent:
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    Net amount:
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    Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
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    Here you go Sherlock holmes so next time you call me "stupid" get your ing facts straight.

    Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #0DU31023MJ2939049)

    Sent to:
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    ail]

    Amount sent:
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    Net amount:
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    Date:
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    Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
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    Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
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    I said you were either stupid or you paid, then narrowed it down to you paid. Don't get your panties ruffled, called train of thought analysis and it's one of the first things we learn here at Police Academy.
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    Now let's narrow it down:
    Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid

    Slayer was active in the league all year, so there is little chance it's him

    EricB was active so probably not him

    TimVp was active, probably not him. Although maybe he is using his status around these parts as a strong arm to not pay...still probably not him

    The Truth quit sometime around May and hasn't shown his face in this thread since. He hasn't even adjusted his lineup in 4 months as he started guys on the DL


    how is there any question as to who it is?
    It's not my non payment list, it's FWD's. You can narrow the list down, and looks like you have further taking TimVP off it. So it's either Eric, Slayer, Atrain, or Truth.....logic says it's the guy who quit and hasn't come back since

    I shouldn't even give a . I paid and I don't want an extra $25 to leave the US economy to be shipped over to the Europeans. So I'd be willing to forgive the non payer in honor of Obama and the state of the US economy. But that is just me. It's not like Alamo even picked his own team, a computer did.


    You logic is unsound, you act like this league didn't exist before you joined it in making your assumption that it was Truth. As I said, Truth was a member last year and did the exact same thing with his team.


    I see why you are making the conclusion you are making, but there is another conclusion you overlook....the basis that he was one of the last two to join and joined right before the deadline when we were not going to have a league.


    You want logic? How do you like my logic in concluding Alamo also thinks it was Truth though he never stated who or why?

    The logic is simple, he referred to Truth as a Tanker several times this season.


    It's very easy to see the logic you are using and the assumption you are basing it on...


    Where you fail though is this, EricB has been a non-payee in a fantasy sport on this forum before(and not because he is tight, he just forgot), that is why I do no automatically paint with your brush.


    Furthermore, for all I know the non-payee is me and FWDT mistook Timvp's payment for mine.


    I don't know, so I'm not going to assume to know.


    I'll just say this, the logic you are using for why he is the no pay is not sound and is ignorant of past mgmt history, whether you turn out to be right or not.
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    So that leaves: EricB, Slayer, and TheTruth

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    I said you were either stupid or you paid, then narrowed it down to you paid. Don't get your panties ruffled, called train of thought analysis and it's one of the first things we learn here at Police Academy.
    Yeah you narrowed it down but still clicked submit when posting this, so you were just trying to call me stupid but oh yeah I think he paid, get the out of here. If you really thought I paid you wouldnt have typed out that stupid smart ass comment.

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    You logic is unsound, you act like this league didn't exist before you joined it in making your assumption that it was Truth. As I said, Truth was a member last year and did the exact same thing with his team.
    I think my logic is pretty sound, and each time we get to cross someone off the list, it's never Truth. We have narrowed the list down to 3 and he is still on it. That is what you have to do in Police work, you narrow the list of suspects down. We were able to cross off everyone except those 3.

    And what does it matter if the league existed before me? I've proven my honesty and commitment while one of the 3 veterans you think is so great hasn't as they have either a)quit halfway through the year or b)didn't pay. Stop putting them on a pedestal because they were here before me. Jimmy Carter was President before Reagan and Carter sucked, it took Ron to come in and clean up everyone's mess. This is no different as I am playing the role of Ron Reagan and I'm asking people to "Just Say No" to cheating the league and "Say Yes" to integrity

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    Yeah you narrowed it down but still clicked submit when posting this, so you were just trying to call me stupid but oh yeah I think he paid, get the out of here. If you really thought I paid you wouldnt have typed out that stupid smart ass comment.
    I was joking. Saying you would have to be really stupid to come in here wanting paid for 3rd place if you were the one who didn't pay. How can you get so upset over that? It's the truth, if you didn't pay, and actually did that, you would have to be stupid

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    And what does it matter if the league existed before me?

    Because the history of the league clearly proves that him ceasing to manage his team halfway through the season doesn't mean he didn't pay, which is the major basis for your assumption.

    Witchhunter.



    I've proven my honesty
    You've also proven you can shoot off your mouth in ignorance...see your comments made on draft night.



    and commitment while one of the 3 veterans you think is so great hasn't as they have either a)quit halfway through the year or b)didn't pay.
    Who is saying he's great? I'm just saying I don't know 100% he's not the one who paid. You make that judgement on an oversimplified judgement that history would prove is indicative of nothing, you think you're smart for doing it that way, I don't.






    Stop putting them on a pedestal because they were here before me. Jimmy Carter was President before Reagan and Carter sucked, it took Ron to come in and clean up everyone's mess. This is no different as I am playing the role of Ron Reagan and I'm asking people to "Just Say No" to cheating the league and "Say Yes" to integrity

    Dumbass...I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal because they were here before you, I'm saying that we've never had a non-payee before and everyone on the non-payee list has been a member of this league before...and obviously paid then.

    That is the point.

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    I was joking. Saying you would have to be really stupid to come in here wanting paid for 3rd place if you were the one who didn't pay. How can you get so upset over that? It's the truth, if you didn't pay, and actually did that, you would have to be stupid
    I guess I took it the wrong way but I understand what you were saying. Either way ill leave it at that and I showed me proof. There really is no way to point fingers, if everyone posts what I did that could help FWD find out who paid what faster.

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    I guess I took it the wrong way but I understand what you were saying. Either way ill leave it at that and I showed me proof. There really is no way to point fingers, if everyone posts what I did that could help FWD find out who paid what faster.

    I was actually calling you non-stupid in your defense, saying that nobody could be that dumb to not pay then come expecting to be paid for 3rd place. I posted that as a way of taking your name off the list. I wasn't calling you stupid as I don't know you

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    Dumbass...I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal because they were here before you, I'm saying that we've never had a non-payee before and everyone on the non-payee list has been a member of this league before...and obviously paid then.

    That is the point.
    alls I know is that if you pay your taxes in 2008, it doesn't mean you are guaranteed to pay your taxes in 2009, 2010, 2011. Him paying last year is what we call an independent variable in the science world. Him paying last year has no affect on future years. It's what the French call the "What have you done for me lately" phenomenon.

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    alls I know is that if you pay your taxes in 2008, it doesn't mean you are guaranteed to pay your taxes in 2009, 2010, 2011. Him paying last year is what we call an independent variable in the science world. Him paying last year has no affect on future years. It's what the French call the "What have you done for me lately" phenomenon.
    That's fine but the fact that he quit managing his team halfway through the season isn't a sound fact upon which to make that conclusion, because as I said, he did the exact same thing last year and he evidentally paid, so the fact that he stopped managing his team halfway through the season doesn't mean he didn't pay and is easily debunked by history.

    Not sound logic...

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    it's like if I murder a school boy today before I go home, and get arrested, all my friends and family will say in my defense that I was such a great guy and would never do that. You would hear the terms "he was completely normal" and things like that as they wouldn't believe I did that. But anyone can appear to be normal and do wrong stuff, look at OJ. OJ posed as a football player and actor before he started murdering people.

    It's the same thing. I know you don't want to admit your friend may have no paid, but it's like a famous lawyer once said: if the glove fits you must send him to jail for the rest of his life

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    and whott, whenever someone says "all I know is" or "alls I know is", expecially the latter, what will follow will be ridiculously stupid. That is a preface for stupid comments that make no sense

    just a life tip

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    it's like if I murder a school boy today before I go home, and get arrested, all my friends and family will say in my defense that I was such a great guy and would never do that. You would hear the terms "he was completely normal" and things like that as they wouldn't believe I did that. But anyone can appear to be normal and do wrong stuff, look at OJ. OJ posed as a football player and actor before he started murdering people.

    It's the same thing. I know you don't want to admit your friend may have no paid, but it's like a famous lawyer once said: if the glove fits you must send him to jail for the rest of his life
    Hey...you're the guy that convicts the innocent in an attempt to ensure the guilty do not go free...in doing so you become a criminal yourself.


    I'm not going to use your ty logic(which again, is easily debunked by history) to convict.

    Just sayin'.

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    Hey...you're the guy that convicts the innocent in an attempt to ensure the guilty do not go free...in doing so you become a criminal yourself.


    I'm not going to use your ty logic(which again, is easily debunked by history) to convict.

    Just sayin'.
    yeah and you probably think OJ wouldn't kill anyone because he had a great game against the Raiders

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    yeah and you probably think OJ wouldn't kill anyone because he had a great game against the Raiders
    No...I just wouldn't convict him automatically because he was a black man.


    And because he played for a team I didn't like.



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    No...I just wouldn't convict him automatically because he was a black man.


    yeah but there was Nicole's blood in his Bronco! You are trying to turn this into a matter of Truth's character, just like Cochran did with Mark Furman. I'm not going to stand for it. The Truth has blood in his Bronco and you are trying to be Al Cowlings. This isn't right

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    Also this...I myself have had it assumed before that I was a non-payee when in fact I wasn't...and I got a little upset. Perhaps that has something to do with my reaction...



    Beyond all that...the only character issues I've had in this league were with Alamo and that was due to history and the fact that he insinuated that I somehow did something stupid to cost myself the le and could no come up with sufficent proof that I would have won the le had I done something differently.


    But anyway, you are funny and I get it...I'm just not funny, at least not intentionally.

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    The male ego really is a fragile thing, isn't it?

    BTW, not trying to speak for FWD, but he seems like a private man and I doubt he would want his real name and email addy plastered on these pages. Perhaps Atrain and Dan could edit that out?

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