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    OK, you didnīt watch the movie.
    It could be the other way around. The religious man standing, and the atheist on the chair. Itīs the same.

    The movie is about the stupidity of attacking people for thinking different.

    I've seen "Babe". Any talking pigs?

    I'll watch it.

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    So this evidence is the connecting piece to proves humans were once apes?

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    So this evidence is the connecting piece to proves humans were once apes?
    See, THIS is the fun that I was looking for.

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    POPULATION STATISTICS
    World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.

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    If its not Macro level DNA altering they're not interested.

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    Our world and humansare too perfectly made, for it to all be complete accidental against all odds type event.

    A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17

    http://www.remnantofgod.org/creation.htm


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    and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago)
    i think this was my favorite part.

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    i think this was my favorite part.
    Is it as entertaining as the idea we were once amoebas?

    from the same website:
    The Biblical record clearly describes a global Flood during Noah's day. Additionally, there are hundreds of Flood traditions handed down through cultures all over the world. 5 M.E. Clark and Henry Voss have demonstrated the scientific validity of such a Flood providing the sedimentary layering we see on every continent. 6 Secular scholars report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers..7 It is now possible to prove the historical reality of the Biblical Flood.8

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    Evolution might as well be a religion since it is operated on faith.

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    POPULATION STATISTICS
    World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.
    That is just all sorts of dumb

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    That website also believes in Giants. SnC, I'd reconsider what you link.

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    That website also believes in Giants. SnC, I'd reconsider what you link.
    he's not going to.

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    Evolution might as well be a religion since it is operated on faith.
    They just don't get that. I'm tired of arguing when people fail to understand they are guilty of the same.

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    Evolution might as well be a religion since it is operated on faith.
    That's the most intellectually lazy argument that can be ever be made by creationists (and it's one of their favorites). Writing off theories because they're based on physical evidence and are not provable is nihilism at its finest. I mean, if we're going to demand some kind of infallible truth, then there's no such thing, since the deduction rule modus ponens that every other deduction rule is derived from is just an axiom. How do we really now modus ponens is right? How do we know the ZFC axioms that all of math and logic are based on are right? If you want to take this approach, then there is no such thing as truth and the world is entirely chaos. There's no such thing as knowledge in the world of someone making this argument that theory based only on evidence is faith.

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    Personally, I don't think the question will ever be solved until someone determines from where and how matter originated.

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    That website also believes in Giants. SnC, I'd reconsider what you link.
    So fossils are acceptable except when they are found the be of men? I can't understand the logic behind big bang and the idea that we are he, by chance. Any ideas? How come apes aren't evolving still? How come humans haven't evolved more?

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    Evolution might as well be a religion since it is operated on faith.
    Yes and people's hold on that idea is as about open to different ideas, as fundementalists of any belief talking to stone walls.



    There exists more between heaven and earth, Horatio, than is dreamt of in one single philiosophy.
    -- Hamlet, Act I, Sc. 5

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    So you're another anti-intellectual nihilist too, micca? Figures.

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    World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.
    the important part of that statement.

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    So fossils are acceptable except when they are found the be of men?
    Are you talking about skeletons of giants?
    I can't understand the logic behind big bang and the idea that we are he, by chance. Any ideas?
    Take a science course.
    How come apes aren't evolving still?
    They are. Evolution isn't a speedy process. It's bases on mutations and propagation of those mutations.
    How come humans haven't evolved more?
    From what? Are you gonna claim H. erectus is faked or not an ancestor?

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    So you're another anti-intellectual nihilist too, micca? Figures.
    Wow talking to you is ridiculous, but whatever..look pin head scientific orthodoxy is one of science's greatest stumbling blocks. I recognize anyone as an idiot who thinks they "have the answer". The history of science is one great truth being replaced by another. I"m more interested in letting voices to be heard so the possiblities are endless.I don't pretend I have an answer or anyone else does, but I'm more interested in learning. I guess you only buy into the diverserty to a point.
    If anyone is anti-intellectual it's you, you're so frightened of the little pink teddy bear called your world view, may be taken from you, that you try and make all assult on orthodoxy verboten. The next link in the chain of human knowledge is what the fun is about, let people feel free to think.

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    Personally, I don't think the question will ever be solved until someone determines from where and how matter originated.

    When you open your mouth doesn't come flying out? That is proof matter originates from the creator.

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    Wow talking to you is ridiculous, but whatever..look pin head scientific orthodoxy is one of science's greatest stumbling blocks. I recognize anyone as an idiot who thinks they "have the answer". The history of science is one great truth being replaced by another. I"m more interested in letting voices to be heard so the possiblities are endless.I don't pretend I have an answer or anyone else does, but I'm more interested in learning. I guess you only buy into the diverserty to a point.
    If anyone is anti-intellectual it's you, you're so frightened of the little pink teddy bear called your world view, may be taken from you, that you try and make all assult on orthodoxy verboten. The next link in the chain of human knowledge is what the fun is about, let people feel free to think.
    You're the one arguing theory based on physical evidence is just faith, you ing moron.

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    Are you talking about skeletons of giants?
    Yup, his website has a picture of a replica of what they claim to be an accurate representation of a bone that was found in Turkey. The only problem is 1) No bone was ever found and 2) If that was a replica then that poor Giant must have been in a wheelchair because that femur is way too thin to support a human that size.

    That website is actually very sad. It uses links to other creationist sites to prove itself.

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    the important part of that statement.
    POPULATION STATISTICS
    World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.
    It helps when you read the whole thing.

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