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Conservatives hate socialism...Obama is a socialist.
Not hard to figure it out.
Somebody explain this to me: The president of the United States wins the Nobel Peace Prize, and Rush Limbaugh joins with the Taliban in bitterly denouncing the award? Glenn Beck has a conniption fit and demands that the president not accept what may be the world’s most prestigious honor? The Republican National Committee issues a statement sarcastically mocking our nation’s leader—elected, you will recall, by a healthy majority—as unworthy of such recognition?
Why, oh why, do neoconservatives hate America so?
OK, I know, it’s just some (neo)conservatives who’ve been exhibiting what they, in a different context, surely would describe as “Hanoi Jane” behavior. Others who haven’t taken leave of their political senses—and are familiar with the concept of manners—responded to President Barack Obama’s unexpected award with equanimity and even grace. Sen. John McCain, for example, offered his good-natured congratulations.
Some of Obama’s most strident critics, however, just can’t give it a rest. They use words like farce and travesty, as if there were always universal agreement on the worthiness of the Nobel peace laureate. Does anyone remember the controversy over Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat or F.W. de Klerk?
The problem for the addlebrained Obama-rejectionists is that the president, as far as they are concerned, couldn’t possibly do anything right, and thus is unworthy of any conceivable recognition. If Obama ended all hunger in the world, they’d accuse him of promoting obesity. If he got Mahmoud Abbas and Benjamin Netanyahu to join him around the campfire in a chorus of “Kumbaya,” the rejectionists would claim that his singing was out of tune.
Let the rejectionists fulminate and sputter until they wear themselves out. Politically, they’re only bashing themselves. As Republican leaders—except RNC Chairman Michael Steele—are beginning to realize, “I’m With the Taliban Against America” is not likely to be a winning slogan.
More interesting, but no less goofy, is the recommendation—by otherwise sane commentators—that Obama should decline the award. This is ridiculous.
If the award just represented the political views of a handful of left-leaning, self-satisfied Norwegian Eurocrats, as some critics have charged, then it wouldn’t matter whether Obama won it or not. But of course it means much more. The Nobel Peace Prize, irrespective of the idiosyncratic process that selects its winner, is universally recognized as a stamp of the world’s approval. For an American president to reject such a token of approval would be absurdly counterproductive.
Obama has shifted U.S. foreign policy away from George W. Bush’s cowboy ethos toward a multilateral approach. He envisions, and has begun to implement, a different kind of U.S. leadership that I believe is more likely to succeed in an interconnected, multipolar world. That this shift is being noticed and recognized is to Obama’s credit—and to our country’s.
The peace prize comes as Obama is in the midst reviewing war strategy in Afghanistan. Some advocates for sending additional troops are complaining—and some advocates of a pullout are hoping—that the award may somehow limit the president’s options. But the prize is nothing more than an acknowledgment of what Obama has been saying and doing thus far. He hardly needs to be reminded of his philosophy of international relations—or that he once called Afghanistan a “war of necessity.” Threading that needle is not made any easier or harder by the Nobel committee’s decision.
What I really don’t understand is the view that somehow there’s a tremendous downside for Obama in the award. It raises expectations, these commentators say—as if expectations of any American president, and especially this one, were not already sky-high. Obama has taken on the rescue of the U.S. financial system and the long-term restructuring of the economy. He has launched historic initiatives to revolutionize health care, energy policy and the way we educate our children. He said flatly during the campaign that he wants to be remembered as a transformational president.
The only reasonable response is McCain’s: Congratulations. Nothing, not even the Nobel Peace Prize, can set the bar any higher for President Obama than he’s already set it for himself.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...bel_98686.html
Last edited by nuclearfm; 10-14-2009 at 04:17 PM.
Conservatives hate socialism...Obama is a socialist.
Not hard to figure it out.
"Obama is a socialist"
SF is a liar, and couldn't define socialism if he were waterboarded.
What does that make George W Bush, more often than not adored and elected not once but twice by neoconservatives?
This isn't about general conservatives (pre-civil rights are GOP hardliners, etc). This is about the neoconservative population (ex-democrats), the population that feels its ok to spend as long as its for imaginary defense and in God's view.(Nixon, Reagan, Bush i +II). The ex-democrat neoconsevative War mongers that now run the GOP is what this topic addresses
Obama isn't a socialist? He's a capitalist?
I thought he was a communist Muslim. The rarest of all sorts
You don't think he's a socialist? But, a communist Muslim?
Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) is the best president in US history and has accomplished more than any human being on Earth. He is MORE than deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize. Too bad those evil, racist bas s at the IOC didn't reward the 2016 Olympics to their rightful place -- the peaceful, fun-loving city of Chicago.
Everybody put your brown shirts on and sing it together with me!
“We’re gonna spread happiness! We’re gonna spread freedom! Obama’s gonna change it….Obama’s gonna lead ‘em.”
I don't agree with this thread, but I wish the s who call Obama a socialist could actually be thrown into the Gulag so they'd know the difference.
I sometimes truly wish Obama were the satanic fascist he's made out to be, just to impute pain on the uneducated, paranoid idiots who vilify him. I wish they could actually take part in the would be consequences of their own delusional ravings.
Did you see who the other nominees weere? If Bill Clinton was nominated, he'd likely would have won it for his N Korea exploits. They had a sub-par field. Between him Nikolas Sarkozy and Benjamin Nentanyahu (other nominees) it's a shoe in.
When the Spurs have an easy path to the championship, nobody really cares. It's still a championship.
Last edited by nuclearfm; 10-14-2009 at 12:47 PM.
Those all seem like pretty poor nominees, honestly.
So Obama's not a socialist, but a communist muslem according to above poster.
Is that better?
conservatives switched from calling everyone a communist to everyone a socialist just so they wouldn't run in this problem.
I'm calling bull .
You plagiarized that first post verbatim.
I think this forum is a little bit over your head. No offense.
Not so quick. You have to play first.
Not so quick, nfm. Posting the work of others without attribution isn't cricket around here.
i just noticed you're eating salad now. too much beef?
I just liked the mini-hippos.
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