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    Jealous in that you will never have money to be anywhere close to being part owner of a NFL team.


    Being part owner of a professional team is pretty much the ultimate man toy.


    I suppose in a sense I'm jealous of not owning an NFL team in the same way that I'm jealous of not owning a 230 foot yacht, but generally there pal- People don't get jealous of the unattainable. I mean that's just a really stupid thing to throw out there. So dumb I'm not even sure you're being serious.

    I get jealous over my ex at the bar. I get jealous over the bag of skittles my co-worker had the foresight to purchase before coming in to work. I get jealous over another friend's excellent jumpshot when he hits it in my eye.

    But sorry, lol a thousand times over, at the idea of getting jealous over the dollars that somebody I don't even know, has possession of. I've already called it stupid, but I mean really, that's one of the most non-nonsensical, dumb, juvenile attacks you possibly could have come up with.
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    Sharpton is an f'n moron. I can't stand that idiot. Not saying that I agree with Rush but I will ALWAYS disagree with that dumbass Sharpton.

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    Jealous in that you will never have money to be anywhere close to being part owner of a NFL team.


    Being part owner of a professional team is pretty much the ultimate man toy. You hate Rush's politics, you hate Rush, it kills you to know your nemesis would reach yet another alpha status.
    That must be what's driving Jim Irsay -- jealously.

    I mean . . . other than the fact that he has enough money to own an NFL team.

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    Isn't it an evil act to thwart someone else at their endeavors? It most certainly isn't moral, without cause!
    Who's to say he doesn't have any more cause than Republicans do to thwarting any number of Democratic programs, and vice versa?

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    Who's to say he doesn't have any more cause than Republicans do to thwarting any number of Democratic programs, and vice versa?
    Exactly. Freedom of speech above all. This is the very reason far right nut job politicians like Nick Griffin speak in the U.S. rather than in Europe where they will put in a cell for their remarks.

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    You have two individuals, who because of hate, are trying to stop someone else from achieving a dream of his. It doesn't affect them at all, but they choose to try to affect him.
    Why do you want to take away Sharpton's freedom to ruin Limbaugh's dream?

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    Hasn't Goodell already stated that he's not interested in allowing Limbaugh to be an owner?

    I believe the owner's get to vote and the commish has a say.

    I really don't care if he gets the team or not... but I've already heard a bunch of stuff on the radio from players saying they'd rather rot away in free agency then play for the Rams if he was the owner.

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    I really don't care if he gets the team or not... but I've already heard a bunch of stuff on the radio from players saying they'd rather rot away in free agency then play for the Rams if he was the owner.
    And don't you see: if it's Rush Limbaugh's American Dream to have a bunch of professional football players steadfastly refuse to play for a particular team, that's his Dream and it is immoral for anyone -- ANYONE! -- to contest his effort to achieve that dream.

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    And don't you see: if it's Rush Limbaugh's American Dream to have a bunch of professional football players steadfastly refuse to play for a particular team, that's his Dream and it is immoral for anyone -- ANYONE! -- to contest his effort to achieve that dream.
    Cmon guys... are we sure Rush Limbaugh even WANTS to buy the team? Have you checked the sources? How do you know Limbaugh isn't lying about wanting to buy the team? Or that someone isn't MAKING him say these things?

    You guys are WAY too trusting of your sources.

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    don't nfl teams split the money?

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    isn't that redistribution of wealth?

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    Wow, the ownage in this thread is palpable. To the point of embarrassing. Small wonder WC and NOB have stopped posting in it.

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    Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Newest racist Limbaugh quote going around?

    "You are hereby served notice of suit for defamation."

    Folks, I think we have harm caused by the libel and defamation of numerous race-baiters and incompetent journalists. I hope he sues them all.

    Where's the audiotape? Where are the transcripts?
    As Steyn notes, while CNN has time to fact-check SNL's sketches, it apparently does not have the time to fact-check it's own reporting. Vehicular-manslaughter-enthusiast Rick Sanchez put this crap out there without checking and without any citations or even caveats.

    I think Goodell and gang have made a mistake by allowing Al Sharpton and gang yank their chain. But, hey, it's their club and, if they don't want Limbaugh in the club, oh well.
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    I think Goodell and gang have made a mistake by allowing Al Sharpton and gang yank their chain. But, hey, it's their club and, if they don't want Limbaugh in the club, oh well.
    You might be giving Al Sharpton too much credit. Maybe they just don't like Rush on the basis of what he did, and does actually say.

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    You might be giving Al Sharpton too much credit. Maybe they just don't like Rush on the basis of what he did, and does actually say.
    What did he do or say that hasn't been shown, in the past couple of days, to have been completely fabricated?

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    What Limbaugh said on ESPN to disqualify him from that job is understandably problematic to the league and its owners. Neither Sharpton nor CNN needed to offer anything beyond that to raise serious questions about why an exclusive club like the NFL ownership would want Limbaugh in its midst. Though I suppose the fact that less than a generation ago, the league's owners had to have a rule imposed to start even giving serious interviews to African Americans concerning head coaching positions might give some credence to the idea that Limbaugh might have been more than welcome.

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    What did he do or say that hasn't been shown, in the past couple of days, to have been completely fabricated?
    He said that Donovan McNabb was being given too much credit for the Philadelphia Eagles' successes because the media desired to have a black quarterback succeed:

    "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

    For a league that, again, has had to impose a requirement that teams interview African Americans to be head coaches and has been painfully slow to come around to the idea that black men are not categorically unqualified to play the most glamorous position in the game, that's an understandably unwelcome viewpoint. And it's also demonstrably incorrect, given that McNabb continues to be among the best quarterbacks in the game on a team that continues to be among the most successful clubs in the game.

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    He said that Donovan McNabb was being given too much credit for the Philadelphia Eagles' successes because the media desired to have a black quarterback succeed:

    "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
    That's a slam on the media. What's racist about that other than claiming the media was being racist in it's treatment of McNabb?

    For a league that, again, has had to impose a requirement that teams interview African Americans to be head coaches
    A racist requirement.

    ...and has been painfully slow to come around to the idea that black men are not categorically unqualified to play the most glamorous position in the game,
    You're going to have to demonstrate to me that a black quarterback was ever denied the position because of his race before I buy that argument. Football quarterback are an awful small subset for it to be asserted racism has anything to do with it.

    ...that's an understandably unwelcome viewpoint.
    Doesn't make it a racist comment.

    And it's also demonstrably incorrect, given that McNabb continues to be among the best quarterbacks in the game on a team that continues to be among the most successful clubs in the game.
    Whether or not McNabb deserved the accolades and whether or not they were beyond what he deserved are matters of opinion. Limbaugh felt the media was desirous of having a super star black quarterback -- to the point they may have been embellishing their coverage; well, that's a matter of opinion too.

    But, nothing makes it racist. Limbaugh allowed then, as he does now, that McNabb is a damn good quarterback...maybe one of the best. He's whole position was that his performance didn't deserve the buildup he was getting from the media and that he felt it was the defense that was carrying McNabb that year. Are there any blacks on that defensive team?

    As an analogy, many believe Obama was voted for, by many Americans, simply because he was black and they were desirous of there being a black president. Does having that opinion make one a racist?

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    Doesn't make it a racist comment.
    That might be objectively true. But it's also true that it's been perceived by people who make the NFL go to have been a racist comment -- or at least a comment that needlessly focused on race. If the people who make the decisions in the NFL have decided that they don't wish to associate with those who espouse such viewpoints, it's their prerogative to say no to Limbaugh and to suggest to Dave Checketts that his bid to buy the Rams would be more likely to succeed without Limbaugh.

    Like anyone else, Rush's choices of opinion have consequences, even if people are objectively misunderstanding his opinions or misstating the motives they might discern from those opinions. Here, Rush's statements have certainly been perceived by a substantial number of people to have been racially-motivated and racially-intolerant; again, even if the particular statements about McNabb might somehow be read to be neither of those things, the perception that Rush has cultivated for himself about his politics, rightly or wrongly, gives rise to a pause among many who heard his statements about McNabb. And it's clearly true that among those who've been given pause by those statements are a significant number of NFL owners.

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    75 percent of the league is black. Racism is happening in the NFL. All over the freaken place.

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    That might be objectively true. But it's also true that it's been perceived by people who make the NFL go to have been a racist comment -- or at least a comment that needlessly focused on race.
    It wasn't perceived that way until the race-baiters saw an opportunity to make it an issue and blew it all out of proportion. And, if your opinion is the media is fawning all over someone simply because they want that person to be a super star, because he's black, then I'd say the race reference isn't needless...but, instead, germane to the argument.

    If the people who make the decisions in the NFL have decided that they don't wish to associate with those who espouse such viewpoints, it's their prerogative to say no to Limbaugh and to suggest to Dave Checketts that his bid to buy the Rams would be more likely to succeed without Limbaugh.
    Agreed. It would be good if they based their decision on fact and not the hyperbolic fabrications of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and CNN.

    But, in the end, you're right, they can allow anyone they wish into their federally-protected cartel.

    Like anyone else, Rush's choices of opinion have consequences, even if people are objectively misunderstanding his opinions or misstating the motives they might discern from those opinions. Here, Rush's statements have certainly been perceived by a substantial number of people to have been racially-motivated and racially-intolerant; again, even if the particular statements about McNabb might somehow be read to be neither of those things, the perception that Rush has cultivated for himself about his politics, rightly or wrongly, gives rise to a pause among many who heard his statements about McNabb. And it's clearly true that among those who've been given pause by those statements are a significant number of NFL owners.[/QUOTE]

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    And, another thing, if Rush Limbaugh is such a racist, why did his detractors have to make up quotes, to attribute to him, just to make their case?

    Surely there must be a vast body of evidence out there, without having to resort to fabrication. After all, the man has been on the air for 3 hours a day for over 21 years. After all that time, all they have is a quote from an ESPN television program that is a comment about the media and not Donovan McNabb?

    Somebody do the math...how many hours of audio are there?

    3 x 5 x 52 x 21 = 16,380. That's 16,380 hours of audio out there from which his critics could find evidence of his racism. And, don't tell his words aren't sifted through by the likes of Media Matters and other such organizations.

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    And, contemporaneous to the event, here is what Donovan McNabb had to say...

    McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his playing ability. "I know I played badly the first two games," he said Wednesday.
    We'd have to go back and analyze the media coverage McNabb was getting but, I think -- if I remember and from what I am reading -- McNabb was a having a sub-par year, at the point the comment was made, and was still ranked at the top of the quarterback heap.

    Going into that weekend, he had been the darling of the sportswriters and -- after his performance in the beginning of the season (bad by his own admission) -- Limbaugh made the inference his continuing to be handled with kid gloves, by the media, was because they wanted a black quarter back to be considered the best quarterback in the land.

    Right or wrong, it's a fair characterization. Just as fair -- as I pointed out earlier -- as saying Barack Obama has been hyped to near-messianic proportions again, by the media, simply because they wanted to see the first black president.

    There's nothing racist about that. Could I be wrong and could Rush have been wrong in 2003? Sure...but, that doesn't make us racist.

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    i don't need sharpton to tell me that limbaugh is a racist.

    it would be nice if sharpton would go away.

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    i don't need sharpton to tell me that limbaugh is a racist.
    So, how did you arrive at that conclusion on your own?

    it would be nice if sharpton would go away.
    I hope Limbaugh sues his ass off first.

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