The definitive list of the NBA's franchise guys (and others)

[DBMethos]

Rondo

[Muser]

Wow, there are a LOT of "foundation" guys I could list over Rondo.

And Paul is a Franchise Player.

[dirk4mvp]

I am now aware that Garnett is a franchise player while 3 guys who are foundation players have been as far as or farther than him as a #1 guy.

[Culburn369]

Gandering those lists makes one realize just how ed the NBA truly is.

I God's, what a mess.

[carrao45]

Paul is not a franchise player; period

Dumbass Spurs Fan

[carrao45]

His flopping; Paul gets away with it a lot of flopping; although it didn't work against the Spurs in 2007

Thats not even an answer

[Culburn369]

stupid list. does not make sense at all. there are franchise players but no such thing as foundation guys.

franchise players:
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan

I'm with hater on his prose and I've trimmed his list...though had some consternation including James.

[redzero]

I'm with hater on his prose and I've trimmed his list...though had some consternation including James.

You're missing Wade and Paul.

[Culburn369]

You're missing Wade and Paul.

I'm with Lefty on Paul...and the '06 Finals should not affect one's judgment of Wade.

[redzero]

I'm with Lefty on Paul...and the '06 Finals should not affect one's judgment of Wade.

So, you're using Lefty's re ed reasoning as to why Paul isn't a franchise player? Well, the same question that I asked him applies to you, too.

And the '06 Finals should affect one's judgment on Wade. Most definitely.

[Culburn369]

So, you're using Lefty's re ed reasoning as to why Paul isn't a franchise player? Well, the same question that I asked him applies to you, too.

And the '06 Finals should affect one's judgment on Wade. Most definitely.

I did not read Lefty's reasoning, red. I just do not view Paul as a franchise en y.

[redzero]

I did not read Lefty's reasoning, red. I just do not view Paul as a franchise en y.

Why? Who else could have carried the Hornets to 49 wins?

[Allanon]

I like the idea of "Foundation Players". I don't like the actual word "Foundation" but I like the idea of a distinction. Guys who have the talent to be Franchise Players but can't change the fortunes of a ballclub because they are usually lacking the mental for ude/leadership abilities/desire to win/etc.

[Greg Oden]

Why? Who else could have carried the Hornets to 49 wins?

You act like that's some type of accomplishment, you ing . But keep hanging your hat on that.

[Culburn369]

That's his one shining moment. You take away that rigged finals and Wade is the level of a healthy Arenas.

Yes. Precisely.

& see, we know it, but, Wade knows it too....it's just a little monkey on his back now, but, it's growing continuously.

[redzero]

You act like that's some type of accomplishment, you ing . But keep hanging your hat on that.

Okay, so franchise players don't make the playoffs? Is that what you're saying? Outside of LeBron and maybe Wade, I wouldn't take anybody over Chris Paul.

You s keep talking about what happened during the playoffs, but you forget that the Hornets wouldn't have even made the playoffs without one of the aforementioned players.

[kamikazi_player]

anyone that doesn't consider CP3 a franchise player is a moron

[Greg Oden]

Okay, so franchise players don't make the playoffs? Is that what you're saying? Outside of LeBron and maybe Wade, I wouldn't take anybody over Chris Paul.

You s keep talking about what happened during the playoffs, but you forget that the Hornets wouldn't have even made the playoffs without one of the aforementioned players.

Spur fan is unimpressed at your trolling attempt by saying you'd rather have Paul over Parker.

[redzero]

Spur fan is unimpressed at your trolling attempt by saying you'd rather have Paul over Parker.

What the does that have to do with anything?

Are all of you Paul haters re s?

[Culburn369]

Spur fan is unimpressed at your trolling attempt by saying you'd rather have Paul over Parker.

And it's a fine comparison:::Parker, early on was where Paul is now=at risk, self doubt, run raw. And I was frankly pleased as punch because at that time he/Parker was the Spur's weak link and the Lakers identified him as such and took advantage for a short span of time before Parker found himself, kicked it into a higher gear and the Lakers had to go elsewhere for their relief.

Yes, I'd take Parker over Paul. Yes. Parker learned & earned his chops. Paul has done neither. He wants his hand delivered, OR, perhaps he's afraid and can't move. Parker was afraid, he couldn't move and then he evolved and he moved, he grew. Much to my chagrin,,,well, until the Lakers went into the and I needed TP to help squelch the Suns (tee, hee) came in mighty handy in the dry interim of a Laker's slump-a-rooney.

[kamikazi_player]

And it's a fine comparison:::Parker, early on was where Paul is now=at risk, self doubt, run raw. And I was frankly pleased as punch because at that time he/Parker was the Spur's weak link and the Lakers identified him as such and took advantage for a short span of time before Parker found himself, kicked it into a higher gear and the Lakers had to go elsewhere for their relief.

Yes, I'd take Parker over Paul. Yes. Parker learned & earned his chops. Paul has done neither. He wants his hand delivered, OR, perhaps he's afraid and can't move. Parker was afraid, he couldn't move and then he evolved and he moved, he grew. Much to my chagrin,,,well, until the Lakers went into the and I needed TP to help squelch the Suns (tee, hee) came in mighty handy in the dry interim of a Laker's slump-a-rooney.

Someone shoot this bas , or better yet, run into oncoming traffic.

[redzero]

and it's a fine comparison:::parker, early on was where paul is now=at risk, self doubt, run raw. And i was frankly pleased as punch because at that time he/parker was the spur's weak link and the lakers identified him as such and took advantage for a short span of time before parker found himself, kicked it into a higher gear and the lakers had to go elsewhere for their relief.

Yes, i'd take parker over paul. Yes. Parker learned & earned his chops. Paul has done neither. He wants his hand delivered, or, perhaps he's afraid and can't move. Parker was afraid, he couldn't move and then he evolved and he moved, he grew. Much to my chagrin,,,well, until the lakers went into the and i needed tp to help squelch the suns (tee, hee) came in mighty handy in the dry interim of a laker's slump-a-rooney.

You'd take Tony Parker over the best point guard in the league just because he played with Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili?



Thank God you aren't a GM, because it's clear you don't know .

Let's compare Tony Parker and Chris Paul. The one with the statistical advantage is in bold.

Paul: 22.8 ppg, 11.0 asts, 5.5 rbs, 2.8 spg, .503 fg%, and .868 ft%.
Parker: 22.0 ppg, 6.9 asts, 3.1 rbs, 0.9 spg, .506 fg%, and .782 ft%.

Enjoy not making the playoffs.

[Culburn369]

Someone shoot this bas , or better yet, run into oncoming traffic.

Blah, blah, blah.

[Culburn369]

You'd take Tony Parker over the best point guard in the league just because he played with Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili?

Thank God you aren't a GM, because it's clear you don't know .

Let's compare Tony Parker and Chris Paul. The one with the statistical advantage is in bold.

Paul: 22.8 ppg, 11.0 asts, 5.5 rbs, 2.8 spg, .503 fg%, and .868 ft%.
Parker: 22.0 ppg, 6.9 asts, 3.1 rbs, 0.9 spg, .506 fg%, and .782 ft%.

Enjoy not making the playoffs.

Yer like DUNCAN, everything to you guys is stats.

Parker is a winner.
Iverson is a loser.
Nash is a loser.
Paul? He's twixt a winner and a loser.

[redzero]

Yer like DUNCAN, everything to you guys is stats.

Parker is a winner.
Iverson is a loser.
Nash is a loser.
Paul? He's twixt a winner and a loser.

I'll repeat: If you were starting a franchise and you choose Tony Parker over Chris Paul, you will not make the playoffs.

If Tony Parker's better than Chris Paul, Brandon Roy is better than Kobe Bryant.