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    ... for "Dime Magazine"

    http://dimemag.com/2009/10/the-nbas-...eron-williams/

    Deron Williams has just been ranked 10th and it's a count down (1 by day by team)
    He seems to finaly gets some consideration by some media!

    At what spot do you think he'll end? Top 5?

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    Maybe Duncan still gets the nod as the 'go to' guy for the Spurs.

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    Maybe Duncan still gets the nod as the 'go to' guy for the Spurs.
    Or Manu

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    Maybe Duncan still gets the nod as the 'go to' guy for the Spurs.

    It's not about the best player...

    Everybody agrees (even Tim and Manu in their interviews) that since last year, TP has become the Spurs go-to player

    I though it was a no-brainer...

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    I think I answered to quickly and didn't get the sarcasme

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    At what spot do you think he'll end? Top 5?
    mmm....top 5 will be hard. Maybe around 8.

    Kobe
    Lebron
    Dirk
    CP3
    Duncan

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    Or maybe all 3 are in the top 10!!!!!!

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    mmm....top 5 will be hard. Maybe around 8.

    Kobe
    Lebron
    Dirk
    CP3
    Duncan

    Even if he is the next on the list (9th), it will be better than expected!
    Not because he does deserve it, but because he FINALY is seen as one of the best by some media (I guess "Dime mag" has some credibility)...

    That was the point of my thread...

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    Even if he is the next on the list (9th), it will be better than expected!
    Not because he does deserve it, but because he FINALY is seen as one of the best by some media (I guess "Dime mag" has some credibility)...

    That was the point of my thread...
    This is not surprising to me. Tony had a of a season in 2008/2009
    And I bet he will be the leading scorer for the Spurs again this year.

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    Unfortunately, there's only 1 player allowed per team in this list. So it's going to be Duncan. Manu and TP won't get any mention unless it's in Tim's article.

    Unless of course things have REALLY changed and TP is the #1 go-to player on the Spurs.

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    Unfortunately, there's only 1 player allowed per team in this list. So it's going to be Duncan. Manu and TP won't get any mention unless it's in Tim's article.

    Unless of course things have REALLY changed and TP is the #1 go-to player on the Spurs
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    well...

    1- Things have indeed change ...

    2- As I said before (not a too long thread ... yet! ), it not a matter of who is the best or who is the leader, it's who "takes in charge" who handles the heaviest load...

    I can't see anybody else but TP to be this guy...

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    What a freaking joke.

    I havent seen every Spurs game, but Ive seen enough to know Popovic gives the ball to Ginobili to create in the final minute. You dont want to give Tony "Turnover" the ball.

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    well...

    1- Things have indeed change ...

    2- As I said before (not a too long thread ... yet! ), it not a matter of who is the best or who is the leader, it's who "takes in charge" who handles the heaviest load...

    I can't see anybody else but TP to be this guy...
    That would be quite a statement if you are correct. If so, I don't think it would be a #9, probably #5-#7.

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    well...

    1- Things have indeed change ...

    2- As I said before (not a too long thread ... yet! ), it not a matter of who is the best or who is the leader, it's who "takes in charge" who handles the heaviest load...

    I can't see anybody else but TP to be this guy...
    TP is definitely the go to guy……………………………..while Manu and Tim are injured lol

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    What a freaking joke.

    I havent seen every Spurs game, but Ive seen enough to know Popovic gives the ball to Ginobili to create in the final minute. You dont want to give Tony "Turnover" the ball.


    You should replace "every" by "many" or even "any!

    Talking about TO...
    I love Manu and until a couple years ago, he was that guy, but now?
    It's asking him too much

    It's funny that this comes from a suns fans who should be used to see Tony destroy his team again and again and again.... and again ...

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    If Chris Bosh is your closer, you've got problems.

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    TP is definitely the go to guy……………………………..while Manu and Tim are injured lol
    Exactly.

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    Who cares????... start the season already!!!

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    Silly Spurs fans, don't you know, based on this preseason, DeJuan Blair is the new it guy. He doesn't need to be fed the ball he just takes it.

    I'd be shocked if Blair is ranked lower than #5.

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    well Manu was injured last year. he still best NBA player in 4th quarter

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    You dont want to give Tony "Turnover" the ball.
    Parker clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08SAS1.HTM

    Nash clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08PHO1.HTM

    Overall:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

    Would you look at that. Parker performed better in the clutch than Nash this past season.

    Guess d_s_f was wrong... yet again.
    Last edited by anakha; 10-15-2009 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Additional evidence

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    Parker clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08SAS1.HTM

    Nash clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08PHO1.HTM

    Overall:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

    Would you look at that. Parker performed better in the clutch than Nash this past season.

    Guess d_s_f was wrong... yet again.
    According to the last link, when it comes to FG% in the clutch, you'd want Gasol, Ariza and Odom (in that order) taking shots before Kobe if you're a Lakers fan. Throw Ariza out of there because 1) He's in Houston now and 2) he was a role player and the list is still interesting.

    But if you want to talk Ariza, he shot .588 on 11.7 FGA in the clutch last season. That's 6.88 shots made in the clutch.

    Artest was .255 in clutch FG% with 20.7 FGA. That's 5.28 shots made in the clutch, or less shots than Ariza despite shooting 9 more shots.

    Uh yeah, that doesn't really look like a good trade off. I found that interesting.

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    Parker clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08SAS1.HTM

    Nash clutch stats:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08PHO1.HTM

    Overall:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

    Would you look at that. Parker performed better in the clutch than Nash this past season.

    Guess d_s_f was wrong... yet again.

    Thanks for the links. Click on them and you'll see Parker's passer rating in the clutch is 5.4. Compare that to 16.6 for Nash. Thus the name "Tony Turnover".

    You dont want Parker making decisions in the clutch.

    Kudos on the self ownage.

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    Thanks for the links. Click on them and you'll see Parker's passer rating in the clutch is 5.4. Compare that to 16.6 for Nash. Thus the name "Tony Turnover".

    You dont want Parker making decisions in the clutch.

    Kudos on the self ownage.
    Look at the links again.

    Parker's assist per bad pass: 7.0. Nash's assist per bad pass: 3.7.
    Parker's total turnovers: 186. Nash's total turnovers: 248.

    Parker's a scorer first and foremost. Congrats on the selective vision.

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