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First he's gonna have to rip you off his nuts.
I guess Dejuan Blair will have rip off Lebron's leg
First he's gonna have to rip you off his nuts.
pretty soon, this will be legitimate
and this
I could keep going, but I'll leave it at that.
3 steps is legitimate now - after 2, you can still step forward while keeping your pivot foot back.
if you keep your pivot foot back, it's not a step.
Just make dribbling optional already.
Yes!
Suck on those crab cakes, es!
it is in Cleveland
It will be used as one, moron - hence why you were only allowed ONE step before, because you could take another step while keeping your pivot foot.
Don't watch the NBA much? Too used to NBA Live?
at the LeBron haters. Because players never traveled before him, EVER.
moron? wow...are we getting a little testy? Calm the down, dude. You must not play much basketball. A step take with your pivot foot back is not counted as a step. Period. That's all I was saying. A pivot foot is when you keep your foot on the ground...people take two steps without using a pivot foot all the time...When you take a step with a pivot foot, it's not a step.
Not saying that...and I don't hate Lebron because of his talents...I hate that he was crowned a King when he hasn't won . I hate that he tattooed "Chosen One" on his back. I hate that he's even mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Jordan. Lebron isn't near Jordan..he's not even Kobe. Lebron is a great player...but not as good as the hype.
Hey, there were the Jordan Rules, why not make the Lebron Rules to solidify his place in history?
Yet how many times PER GAME EVERY GAME do NBA players AND OTHERS AT EVERY LEVEL take two steps before a shot/layup/dunk? Because they use their 'pivot step' to add another step past the 1 they are allowed?!?!?!?
Now with two steps legal, you can LEGALLY take a third 'pivot step,' as opposed to one step and a second 'pivot step' towards your target. Don't play much basketball? Or is it that you're a moron? Jesus, at least read the article before you decide to be the end-all know-all about NBA rules then contradict the very rules.
I don't think Lebron travels and takes 3 steps- when you take your 2 steps and finish at the basket or pass you are taking the 2 steps with the ball IN your hand or hands... What Lebron does (Jordan did it as well) is he gains momentum and in essence a free step by not holding the ball during the initial step- so he usually bounces the ball with one hand and while the ball has not yet made it to the other hand or rather while the ball is not being touched at all he is getting this initial free step and when he finally gets the ball in his right hand he then takes his 2 power steps... It would be very UN-natural and difficult to try to take 3 steps while the ball is actually in your hands to make a play at the basket. It would not only feel odd it would look terribly odd i.e. Dr. J free throw line dunk from back in the day...
really. and while they are at it may as well make playing defense against the rules as well, thats the direction theyve been trying to go for years anyway...
if this rule was made for anybody, it was Wade. He regularly gets away with blatant traveling.
Little heavy with the "moron" there, aren't we? Did you make up the rules? Are you that anal about everything? Settle down, dude...All I'm arguing is that they're adding a step in here...that's a fact...like it or not, it's a fact. And it just so happens to be after the whole "crab dribble" incident. I'm not trying to argue with you, or call you a moron...chill with the ING insults.
Great point. Unless the players adapt the mechanics used when going for a lay-up (right step, left step, go up with right leg first) than this may not change the game much. Because think about it...for a right hand lay up u normally lead with your right leg and finish with your right leg going up first. If there's a third step in there you'd have to finish with your left going up first, either that or lead with your left. It probably feels completely unnatural and awkward and most players will just continue doing things the way theyve been done.
The latest "James Rules" may make life easier for LeBron
By Brian Windhorst
Cleveland Plain Dealer
DALLAS, Texas -- So-called "star calls" have been commonplace in the NBA for many years, even if it often perturbs fans. But you haven't truly arrived until you have your own "star rules." Shaquille O'Neal has been there for a while, LeBron James is just getting there now.
”Decades ago the league installed a rule that players who are fouled before the ball is inbounded or away from the ball in the final two minutes of the game get free throws plus another possession. This was once known as the Wilt Chamberlain rule but over the last dozen or so years has become known as the Shaq rule. It limits the effectiveness of the Hack-a-Shaq strategy late in close games.
Five years ago this month, the NBA installed a new hand check rule that prevented defenders from placing their hands on players at all when they're driving from the perimeter. At the time the league was concerned about the pace of scoring after watching the Spurs and Pistons rack up les by holding opponents in the 70s with physical defense.
The fact there were a host of young, skilled drivers in the league probably wasn't a big factor in the decision, but it turned out to be a huge benefit for them. There's no doubt it has been a significant advantage for James, who started exploiting it on a nightly basis and instantly became a regular among the league scoring leaders.
It also was a welcome relief to Dwyane Wade, who uses the rule more artfully than James sometimes, and ultra-quick guards like Tony Parker.
Now comes this. The NBA has re-written another long-standing rule that directly benefits James and surely will kick off some debate with basketball purists. It is now in writing that players are permitted to take two steps after they "gather" the ball and not be called for traveling.
Here is how the rule now reads: "A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball."
This has been common practice for years. In fact, officials were instructed to allow two steps after the gather despite what the rule book read. But now that it is official, it could clear the way for James to take his driving skills to another level.
One of James' trademark moves since he was in high school has been the jump stop. It is striking when he does it because it doesn't look like it should be legal, the ability to leap several feet to a halt and then take another step to get to the basket.
It had become a somewhat of a forgotten tactic in the NBA, which is why James is so effective with it. In high school often officials would be so taken aback by seeing they'd call traveling even when it wasn't. When he got to the NBA James slowly adapted it and started doing it illegally.
By the letter of the law, players executing a jump stop must land on both feet at the same time and then may establish a pivot foot by taking a step. James is so quick and strong that often he'd use the jump stop as an extra step, landing on one foot and then with the second foot before taking yet another step as his pivot. He often does it so fast and with such grace that he usually got away with it.
There were some officials who didn't allow it, including Bill Spooner last season in Washington. He called James for traveling on his jump stop maneuver and it cost the Cavs a game. Afterwards James made headlines by saying he was executing a "crab dribble," but the truth was he'd been caught in an inproper jump stop.
But the jump stop is a "gather" move, as in the act of gathering the ball from the dribble into the shot. With two steps now allowed, the path has been cleared for James to go back to jump stopping without fear of reprisal. Exactly the sort of news the Most Valuable Player likes to hear.
The "LeBron James Rule" is about to enter the NBA lexicon.
Only a moron would retort to my reply with "its not a step." It's used as one everyday in every basketball league.
If you actually had a point to make, other than the pivot step that is very often used as a step is not technically a step, what was it?
Last edited by z0sa; 10-18-2009 at 01:55 PM.
This is why when Timmy retires I'll probably stop watching the NBA altogether.
It so flawed.
The money that can be made by it's players' s om has taken presidence over the actual sport.
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