I don't think the Lakers should do it much if at all. No need for it, really.
I've been waiting to see how Bynum/Pau/Odom work together as a front court lineup...didn't happen last year. But it looks like Phil's been messing with the idea again this year.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,1055315.story
Will Phil Jackson ever play Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom at the same time?
It might finally happen.
The Lakers' coach is open to the idea of a frontcourt with two 7-footers and the 6-10 Odom.
"I think that we're very capable of playing like that," Jackson said Thursday. "We have to work on transition defense, obviously, but we know that's a weapon that we could use this year."
Jackson has never used such a lineup since Gasol was acquired in February 2008. It would probably be situational, employed against bigger frontcourts.
The pluses are obvious -- size down low on offense and defense. The minuses are also obvious -- a lack of defensive speed.
"Transition-wise, if you have those young burners out there that can race the ball up the court -- to get back and stop the ball, that'll be something we'll have to work on," Jackson said.
Bynum continued to put up big numbers in exhibition play, scoring 24 points in the Lakers' 98-92 victory Thursday over the Sacramento Kings at Thomas & Mack Center.
Bynum is now averaging 22.3 points in three exhibition games.
I don't think the Lakers should do it much if at all. No need for it, really.
Now I know why the Lakers play pre-season in Vegas, so they can go to the clubs
Damn near the whole team went to hang out...even the camp scrubs
Bynum's 22 ppg in pre-season and Phil considering Triple Tower Lineup
Not too hard to see Bynum averaging around 17-18 this year considering he was at 14 last year.
I have partied in LAX, pretty cool club. Fat Joe was MC that night.
A line-up of Bynum, Odom, and Gasol might get killed by some more speedy guys...
I don't see a problem with trying it for stretches. Odom can facilitate the offense with Kobe and Artest on the wings, and Odom has enough agility to defend most small forwards. Kobe and Artest might get burned by some quicker guards, but for the most part would be ok, especially if it's only for short stretches and not most of the game.
You're also replacing Trevor Ariza's 9 ppg for a guy who has averaged just about 18 ppg the previous four seasons in Ron Artest. Who is giving up all these touches for Bynum to get to 17-18? Kobe? Yeah right. Gasol? Maybe but Phil likes getting Gasol involved. Odom? He already sacrificed his points and only averaged 11 ppg last season. Barring injury, Bynum is still going to be around 15 ppg, 8-10 rpg guy if not less than that.
I disagree. Lakers are paying Bynum $14 million this year as opposed to Artest's $5 million. Makes sense for Buss to try and get his money's worth.
Getting Bynum 2-3 more shots this year won't be a problem...I'll guess Bynum's attempts per game at 10-11 this year with a 17PPG+ average...up from his previous 9 and 14PPG average.
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If anything, it look like Ron's trying too hard to be just one of the guys; he's already deferring to Bynum:
Lakers coach Jackson:
Artest needs to be more assertive
http://www.dailynews.com/lakers/ci_13573928#
October 15, 2009 - Los Angeles Daily News
By Elliott Teaford
LAS VEGAS - At first glance, there wasn't anything terribly wrong with Ron Artest's line from the Lakers' 98-92 exhibition victory Thursday night against the Sacramento Kings.
He had seven points, seven rebounds and two assists.
Upon further review, Lakers coach Phil Jackson found fault with Artest's game.
Artest, who signed a five-year, $34 million deal with the Lakers during the offseason, has played three exhibitions so far. He hasn't played with the aggression that Jackson would like to see from him, however.
"He still looks like he's standing around watching the other guys play at times, and he's not involved as much as I would like him to be involved," Jackson said after watching Artest play 26 minutes,
14 seconds against the Kings.
Asked if he believed Artest was deferring too much to his teammates, Jackson said, "Yeah, yeah, I think he's got to find his way in the post and do some things that asserts himself and put pressure on his teammates to get him the ball in the right spots.
"He's trying to be the right guy and try to fit in and not try to crowd his way in there, but he's got to do that. I'm going to have to force him to do it."
Artest admitted his immersion to all things Lakers remains a work in progress. He also said he's been reluctant to charge into the mix, particularly offensively, because he's studying the Lakers' pecking order in their triangle offense.
Artest is not accustomed to playing as the third or fourth or fifth option.
"If I get one shot a game, I want to make that one shot," he said. "As long as I rebound and play hard, that's all I care about.
"I've never played with a player like Kobe (Bryant). We've got (Andrew) Bynum and (Pau) Gasol and (Lamar) Odom. - It's totally different. I'm blessed to be in this situation, so I'm got to continue to study."
Well, you know who can match that lineup don't you?...
Boston
[[[Artest admitted his immersion to all things Lakers remains a work in progress. He also said he's been reluctant to charge into the mix, particularly offensively, because he's studying the Lakers' pecking order in their triangle offense.
Artest is not accustomed to playing as the third or fourth or fifth option.
"If I get one shot a game, I want to make that one shot," he said. "As long as I rebound and play hard, that's all I care about.
"I've never played with a player like Kobe (Bryant). We've got (Andrew) Bynum and (Pau) Gasol and (Lamar) Odom. - It's totally different. I'm blessed to be in this situation, so I'm got to continue to study."]]]
Just a prince of a fellow. I don't WTF Houston's problem with him was, but, he's been nothing but a sage for the Lakers.
I'm just as pleased as punch.
Please, stop letting us know how big of a moron you are
Suddenly it's Houston's problem with Artest when Artest has had problems everywhere he has been
So over/under on Ron Artest's ppg? 10 ppg?
Don't start calling me names on a Friday evening, dj. Wait till at least Sunday. Por favor?
And he didn't have a problem in Houston until after he signed in Los Angeles. Then you guys tattled on him for panty raids & phone booth cramming type malarkey.
Are those extra points (14 - Ariza's avg from last year) coming from...?
Ron is kind of a chucker, I would not want him taking shots away from Bynum who shoots 50%+.
So you are saying last year, the pecking order on offense was Kobe, Pau, Bynum and now it will be Kobe, Pau, Ron, Bynum?
Agreed, it's time to see if the kid can dominate. As for Ron, I would be thrilled if he uses most of his energy on the defensive end and averages only 10ppg.
I think Ron can avg around 12-14, but I think that would come from Kobe passing more.
true. All things considered though, trying to figure out who the #3 option is going to be between Bynum, Artest, and Odom is a problem I think any team would want to have.
No doubt. At least the Spurs have a well defined pecking order.
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