Reply With Quote
As supernumeraries go, he's no Marcus Haislip.
Pre-season record:
21 minutes, 0 out of 6
13 minutes, 0 out of 3
21 minutes, 1 out of 5
All his shots, except for one of them are from the 3point line.
So, apparently the Spurs he wants him to fire from the 3point line.
Okay, then what is his career averages from that range?
0.350 3P%
Not really that great.
Now let's look at his playoff record. In 07-08 he hit an even worse:
0.333 3P% that's playing 29.3 minutes per game.
Again, nothing to write home about.
Well Bogans once has a game where he hauled down 12 rebounds. But let's look at his record:
3.2 rebounds per game. Decent for a guard, same rebound rate as Udoka.
All I can really conclude about Bogans is that he's about as good as Udoka. He's physically about the same. However, Udoka prior to being signed by the Spurs had a career 0.406 from the 3pt line in the previous season.
All I can really say in his defense is that he didn't turn over the ball much. 1 TO for 23.4 MPG. But maybe that's just the result of his style of play.
As supernumeraries go, he's no Marcus Haislip.
No, keep him and Hairston, waive Williams
Yeah, Haislip isn't doing that well either. But he's not throwing bricks like Bogans.
His record:
8 minutes, 0-1
15 minutes, 2-4
16 minutes, 1-1
Besides, the word is out that the Spurs are impressed with him in practice and Popovich did say that he was still learning the system. I haven't heard any high praise recently about Bogans from anywhere.
Kind of look like bowens offensive stats...The spurs did not sign him for his offense.
Bowen offensive stats???!
Bowen has a career .393 from the 3pt line.
Besides, Bowen is listed at 6-7, Bogans is listed at 6-5. 6-5, who at that height are we so desperately in need of defending?
A normal distribution on a 15 man roster would be:
6 Bigs
6 Swings
3 PGs
Among the 14 players with guaranteed contacts:
Haislip is the 7th big
Bogans is the 5th swing
Bogans has a proven NBA track record as a rotation player on a contending, defensive minded team, Haislip has yet to prove that he has any NBA-level skills.
Both have guaranteed contracts and neither will be moved anytime before Dec 15th, but Haislip is clearly more superfluous on this roster than Bogans.
Oh, one more thing. The guy getting abused by Rob Kurz is not going to be a Dirk stopper.
Man, it's just pre-season. Give him some more time.
I watched many of his games when he was with the Rockets as a backup for T-Mac. Trust me, although not that good, he definitely worth a vet-min.
I agree, this signing doesn't make much sense at all. If Pop wanted someone with NBA experience that can play some defense he should've just held on Udoka or resigned Bruce Bowen. Either of those two also had the advantage of having extensive experience with the spurs system.
Overall, the Bogans' signing is a stain on what had been a perfect off season of moves.
Are you talking about Mahinmi?
Agree.... that's what its looking more and more like.
Did you see the game? I was there and I assure you that Haislip was attempting, and failing, to guard the offensive force that is Rob Kurz.
Sure. Waive Bogans. Why not.
Hey I've got another idea. You know that car you have that you don't like any more? But you're still making payments? How about you give me that car, but you still make the payments. Sound like a good deal? OK, I'll be right over.
You should be waived.
I don't think Spurs would wavie him...
It's clear that if Spurs wavies him, his contract would still count against team's salary.
I think that's the idea, that the guy be Bowen 2.0
Unfortunately, he doesn't shot anywhere near the same clip as Bruce, and he's nowhere near the same one on one defender that Bruce was in his prime.
But since we guaranteed his contract, we can only basically trade him. The question is when does Pop finally gets convinced that the guy is not Bowen, and is dead weight.
I think we are forgetting that Bogans was not signed for his brilliant offense. He's a defensive player, and was signed to try to be a stopper against big scorers. I'm sure Bowen didn't destroy people on offense when he first came here. Let's give the guy a few games before we lynch him.
Don't worry, it took Pop two seasons to give up on the Udoka experiment.
Bogans is going to be around for a while...
Bogans Will Be ok.... Haislip Is versatile being able to play the 4 and some 3.... I like Marcus Williams Upside but i think he has to go....
If Bogans is going to be waived, it won't be caused by his stats in preseason games. Aside from Darius Washington, who was also certainly great in practices a couple of preseasons ago, I can't think of anyone whose fate with a Popovich-coached team was determined by preseason stats -- whether good or bad.
Letting go of a proven player over 5 pre-season games because of his shooting is very pre-mature.
Especially considering he's been a 35 percent shooter from downtown during his 7 year career.
Especially considering he signed for the minimum.
And especially since he's a defensive specialist.
Wise Popovich wouldn't be like the OP and waive a player who has proven things during his 7 year career in the NBA just because of five pre-season games.
Marcus Williams will be cut again. And Hairston will make the final roster spot.
So far Bogans appears to be be an excellent candidate for the nearly annual "Nick Van Exel Stupid Pop Vet Pickup Award".
The Bogans signing is fine. If he was brought into to play 30 MPG I'd be upset, but considering the likely size of his role hes about as good as we could have hoped for. No, hes not Richard Jefferson, Dejuan Blair or Antonio McDyess. Hes not as sexy of a signing as those guys. But he could be a difference maker in a small role off the bench as the 5th or 6th wing. And he offers decent depth in case of injury.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
