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    “There is an argument, ad hominem, by which this discussion might, with strict justice, be closed. If materialism is true, then the pretended philosopher who teaches it is a beast, and we are all beasts. Brutes are not amenable to moral law; and if they were, it is no murder to kill a beast. But brutes act very consistently upon certain instincts of self-preservation. Even: they learn something from experience. But this teaches us that the propagator of these atheistic ideas is preparing intolerable mischief; for, just so far as they have prevailed, they have let loose a flood of misery upon mankind. Now, then, these teachers are venemous. The consistent thing for the rest of us animals, who are not serpents or beasts of prey, is to kill them as soon as they show their heads; just as whenever the stags see a rattlesnake, they cut him in pieces with the lightening thrusts of their keen hoofs. Why is not this conclusion perfectly just? The only logic which restrains it is, that Christianity, which says that we shall not shed man’s blood, ‘because in the image of God made He man;’ but which these men flout. The only reason we do not justly treat atheists thus is, that we are not, like them, atheists.”
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    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

    And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning--the first day.

    And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning--the second day.

    And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

    Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day.

    And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning--the fourth day.

    And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." And there was evening, and there was morning--the fifth day.

    And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

    Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

    Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

    God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning--the sixth day.

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    About as long as it takes you to answer my tree question. I already told you save your math smack for the others,
    not only are you looking desperate but if I have to repeat myself over and over only confirms you may still have primate DNA in you.
    No, he clearly proved you don't understand the concept. It's a very simple math question.

    If you don't understand the concept, how can you understand what you quote of more complex things? It appears you are relying on other peoples work who may or may not be right.

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    Yeah because this is so much more logical.

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    Non-living chemicals cannot become alive on their own. The cell is a miniature factory with many active processes, not a simple blob of “protoplasm” as believed in Darwin’s day. Lightening striking a mud puddle or some “warm little pond” will never produce life. This is another view of the core issue of information as the simplest living cell requires a vast amount of information to be present. The “Law of Biogenesis” states that life comes only from prior life. Spontaneous generation has long been shown to be impossible (by Louis Pasteur in 1859). Numerous efforts to bring life from non-life (including the famous Miller-Urey experiment) have not succeeded. The probability of life forming from non-life has been likened to the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and spontaneously assembling a working 747 airplane. The idea that life on earth may have been seeded from outer space just moves the problem elsewhere.
    Why Abiogenesis is Impossible, Jerry Bergman, CRS Quarterly, Volume 36, March 2000

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    No, he clearly proved you don't understand the concept. It's a very simple math question.

    If you don't understand the concept, how can you understand what you quote of more complex things? It appears you are relying on other peoples work who may or may not be right.
    ok I don't have a GED I can't figure out numbers. There I said it! Now feel free to avoid the tree question for another 4 hours.


    Hurry I want to ask about.....

    Niagara Falls erosion rate



    The rate of erosion at Niagara Falls is four to five feet per year. Given the distance it has traveled during its history, it could not be more than 10,000 years old,

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    The lies Evolutionist's spread everyday!

    Ancient Ice



    Most scientists today believe that various places on this planet, such as Greenland, the Antarctic, and many other places, have some very old ice. The ice in these areas appears to be layered in a very distinctive annual pattern. In fact, this pattern is both visually and chemically recognizable and extends downward some 4,000 to 5,000 meters. What happens is that as the snow from a previous year is buried under a new layer of snow, it is compacted over time with the weight of each additional layer of snow above it. This compacted snow is called the “firn” layer. After several meters this layers snowy firn turns into layers of solid ice (note that 30cm of compacted snow compresses further into about 10cm of ice). These layers are much thinner on the Antarctic ice cap as compared to the Greenland ice cap since Antarctica averages only 5cm of "water equivalent" per year while Greenland averages over 50cm of water equivalent. 1,2 since these layers get even thinner as they are buried under more and more snow and ice, due to compression and lateral flow (see diagram), the thinner layers of the Antarctic ice cap become much harder to count than those of the Greenland ice cap at an equivalent depth. So, scientists feel that most accurate historical information comes from Greenland, although much older ice comes from other drier places. Still, the ice cores drilled in the Greenland ice cap, such as the American Greenland Ice Sheet Project (GISP2) and the European Greenland Ice Core Project (GRIP), are felt to be very old indeed - upwards of 160,000 years old.










    Like the coelacanth fish from the previous page. This is another claim made that has been proven wrong. The assumption was that for every light and dark area found in ice, in either the north or south pole. Would represent 1 passing year. And because science has basically cornered the market of doing ice core drills. They figured no one would ever prove them wrong. They basically made this statement about the different colors found in ice cores, without really testing it to make sure. So it was a guess based on a theory (evolution, and the time required for it to happen) that they wanted to support. A theory that was starving for supporting evidence. So evolutionists stuck their foot in their mouth on this one, and are unwilling to admit their mistake. And this mistake is still being taught in every science-evolutionist class in both high school, and college. It is even in the school text books.

    Just like the Ernest Haeckel fraud , which by the way will be reprinted and taught again (what next, Piltdown man?). Science refuses to remove the information, unless someone makes them. And like the Stanley Miller experiment. The problems are not mentioned, so that the theory of evolution can for the most part, always go unchallenged.






    Just in case some of you still are in the dark scientist claim the layers of each core show how many years the ice is and the rings are solid proof the earth is Billions of years old.

    You see these shows on the Discovery channel all the time.

    Now for the truth.

    BTW The next sound you may hear is the sound of ass cheeks puckering up as the Evolutionist's in this forum know what's coming next..... as I expose this re ed theory they love to teach the children in the classrooms.



    At first glance you have no reason to doubt the scientist after all how many of you dig in the polar caps for ice? We must take their words as gospel, truth,and facts. what choice do we have?

    You do have a choice now. You see in 1941 a plane was lost and 48 years later is was found , are you ready?......................

    Under 263 feet of ice! which by the way kills any bull Ice core method of dating how old the earth is. So much for your ice ring lies Pat-Na!

    I give you ........................








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    I wouldn't call a five hour wait for a response just a drive by anymore.

    You still think the tail bone on a human is a vestigial structure ?


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    You Vato's that still think your great great grandfather was a snail?


    your.........................




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    That's cool about the P-38.

    They restored her, and flew her again, calling her Glacier Girl:


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    Mouse, as for your pointing out the annual rings...

    they have known for years that there is more to determining the age of the ice other than the rings. I notice your article is conveniently silent of this fact, but readily points out older beliefs long ago proven wrong.

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    Mouse, as for your pointing out the annual rings...

    they have known for years that there is more to determining the age of the ice other than the rings. I notice your article is conveniently silent of this fact, but readily points out older beliefs long ago proven wrong.

    Feel free to show me the link that shows this! Show me a video where they mention the fact that ice does ac ulate allot faster than they previously thought. Even if I am wrong and you are right? This is still in the text books in school, they still have the information. The discovery channel the History channel still show these scientist pulling out ice cores and saying each layer is a year. Some shows say a they can go back 1000 of years with a 5 foot long piece of ice core, WTF?
    Look I really don't care who in here wants to believe they evolved from some hot rock or Evolved from a frog just don't try and tell me the earth is a billion years old and for the love of true Science get it out of the text books, why is that such a big deal around here?

    Last edited by mouse; 10-17-2009 at 01:53 PM.

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    Who needs the comedy channel anymore?




    Come on ST wake up! Thaw out your minds from the frozen Evolution theories the teachers brainwashed you with.





    [youetube]fNEmGaAplgI[/youtube]

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    Look I really don't care who in here wants to believe they evolved from some hot rock or Evolved from a frog
    Come on ST wake up! Thaw out your minds from the frozen Evolution theories the teachers brainwashed you with.
    I thought you didn't care.

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    I thought you didn't care.

    You can still drive an ambulance even if you don't care if the person dies or not.

    I do care about lies in the text books not your personal agendas.

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    You can still drive an ambulance even if you don't if the person dies or not.
    The ambulance driver gets paid.

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    The ambulance driver gets paid.
    You sure about that?




    The real question is how much the Government pays you to silence 9/11 theories and for you to pimp out your Evolution propaganda. What ever it is it's not enough.

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    You sure about that?
    Volunteers care.

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    You wouldn't know about caring for the way you belittle anyone who questions 9/11 or Darwin. Your just using me to warm up for Zosa I am sure you love pushing his buttons.

    over 12 hours no answer to my tree question.....

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    The real question is how much the Government pays you to silence 9/11 theories
    What theories?

    What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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    You wouldn't know about caring for the way you belittle anyone who questions 9/11 or Darwin.
    I'm an equal opportunity belittler.

    over 12 hours no answer to my tree question.....
    My answer to that is "Because trees die."

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    Well since your here and it's seems to be slow at wall mart, here is a question....


    At the present rate that volcanoes add crustal material, the entire earth's crust could be formed in 20 million years, far younger than the 4.5 billion years which geologists claim as the age of the earth. Why is that?

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    I'm an equal opportunity belittler.

    My answer to that is "Because trees die."
    Show me the petrified million year old tree?

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    Show me the petrified million year old tree?
    You were talking about, and gave a link to, the oldest living tree.

    Why are you changing the subject to petrified trees?

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