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Bogans is a defensive-minded first guy, while Williams just hasnt really done jack so far in the pre-season. Bogans > Williams. Hairston and Bogans claim the last 2 roster spots...end of story.
I have no idea what Bogans is gonna give us as of now. I liked the signing when it happened, and I think he's a solid player... but with that said... We have to keep Malik, he's just worked too hard and become too good of a player, and he makes that great insurance policy for Bogans. Hairston is a stud 6-7th man in the making.
I HATE having to give up Marcus tho. I was one of the very people who was happy we drafted him, in fact, I was ecstatic about it. Even when he's struggled, I've stuck with him. I think he's really starting to come around now, and it's gonna be a shame to see him go. I hope somehow he's still around for us to re-sign next year, but I seriously doubt that he will be.
Bogans is a defensive-minded first guy, while Williams just hasnt really done jack so far in the pre-season. Bogans > Williams. Hairston and Bogans claim the last 2 roster spots...end of story.
Another lackluster effort by Bogans. 1-5 from the field. Curious, just how many games are you willing to give ol' Bogie to get his act together? He's not even shooting near his career 39% (which isn't that impressive).
Maybe this is as good as it gets.
People now saying he was brought in for his great defense. Excuse me while I LOL. Udoka would run circles around this guy defensively. Bruce Bowen too, even at his age.
This lame signing fits the Popovich M.O. unfortunately. Just toss away a promising young players that has worked his ass off for a roster spot in favor some journeyman that supposedly played some good defense years ago and nobody remembers. The rationale being the more experience playing at the NBA level the better he must be.
, under this logic we should immediately cut George Hill and get Stephon Marbury in here... he's played 32,000 minutes in the NBA so surely he'll be better. AmIrite?
Last edited by TJastal; 10-17-2009 at 02:49 AM.
what the
if hairston doesnt get signed, ill cry
Kill yourself.
Never thought I'd see you channeling your inner TPark.
Oh, next time tell him to drink bleach.
Sorry man, it's just really starting to get to me. I don't know why...because it's not like this is unexpected from Spurstalk.Never thought I'd see you channeling your inner TPark.
Oh, next time tell him to drink bleach.
Have you actually watched a game he played solid minutes in and paird attention to him? Like, ever? Cuz his D on Lebron was solid last night. I was in the nose bleeds, but Fin on Lebron was a disaster. For the Spurs, it was Hairston, Bogans................... and then Fin when it cam to defending Lebron. Bogans might be a smarter defender, but Hairston isn't a slouch himself, and he has the actual physical tools to bother Lebron.
Well if Hairston isn't a slouch, why did Pop sign Bogans? Hairston has the advantage of being much bigger defender with a better wingspan, and filling a need vacated by Bowen. Bogans is shorter w/ short arms as well. More suited to guarding smaller guards, which is something George Hill can already do for the team. Bogans doesn't fill an immediate need.
Many here keep saying Hairston will be signed, but I'm kind of doubting it. Would be nice if it happened though.
They are exactly the same height and close to the same weight. Hairston has a better standing reach but Bogans has the better wingspan.
Stop creating arguments in your mind and actually do some research before you post.
Simple answer, Bogan is a proven NBA player, Hairston is not.
Nice line, but not true.
Height w/o shoes:
Hairston: 6'4.25"
Bogans: 6'4.25"
Wingspan:
Hairston: 6'9"
Bogans: 6'9.25"
I agree that signing Malik is no sure thing as the Spurs weigh the additional value he brings against the additional cost. I also agree that he has proven that he is good enough to contribute. I may be biased as I thought he showed enough to stick after training camp last season.
Beat me again
Wow, I'm shocked these two players are so close in size. They are so close in stature its uncanny. I would have bet good money that Hairston was significantly bigger.
It does sure seem to me that Hairston can defend "bigger" players though, and has been cited by many on this board for having a knack for that as well as blocking shots. He is clearly the stronger and more explosive player while Bogans may be the better long distance marksman.
The argument that Bogan's is a "proven nba player" stilll doesn't mean a whole lot however. The only thing that proves to me is that he's been in the league longer than Hairston and hasn't been able to stick on an NBA team for any length of time.
Thanks for doing that bit of research however, and lets hope Hairston can somehow land a spot on the roster at some point because we both do agree that he is ready for action.
After I posted I saw you viewing the thread. I figured that was what you were doing.Beat me again
Bogans is going to be riding the bench, stop acting like he's going to get big minutes.
Wow, I was at the game, and Hairston looked much bigger. Bogans' skeleton must way 5x as much as it should, because Hairston looks like a tank, Bogans looks like a midget Bowen who got hit by the ugly stick more.
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