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I think only the New England markets are the only ones still watching the game right now (the Tennessee markets probably switched out of mercy).
it's still on cbs (CBS HE)
I think only the New England markets are the only ones still watching the game right now (the Tennessee markets probably switched out of mercy).
Unfortunately I'm still stuck watching it. Well actually it's not so bad watching the ans lose like this.
haha
I don't know one single person here in TN who wants to see Vince Young ever walk out onto the field (except those who hate the ans).
For the record, i'm convinced he can't read or write.
His wonderlick IQ test results during the combine strongly indicate that.
His Wonderlic score isn't even the half of it, but it should have been a huge red flag before the draft. And his inability to finish sentences in interviews should have been the final straw.
Yeah I was joking, but you're right that drafting a QB who s up that much on an IQ test is asking for problems. Other than accuracy, intelligence is the most important part of a good QB.
Wow, not used to seeing an NFL team quit like that. ans have no pride. Guess it's time for Fisher to go. He can catch on with a new team and keep doing his thing.
If there's any coach that can turn around a 0-6 team, it's Jeff Fisher
There's going to be some furniture moving around in Tennessee! Geez...that was hands down the worst thing I've ever seen. The first negative passing yardage by a team since the NFL/AFL merger?
I didn't even realize that Jeff Fisher's coaching record just isn't that good. 6 playoff appearances out of 16 seasons? Soon to be 17. What network do you think he'll work for next year? ESPN? CBS? Fox?
Last edited by TFloss32; 10-19-2009 at 09:01 AM.
It may not seem like it, but Jeff Fisher has some of the best job security of any coach in the NFL. He's not going anywhere.
I know he does and it's sad...I was being facetious. Find the Tennessean newspaper online and read the comments from the Nashville residents about Jeff Fisher after yesterday's game (if you want to call it that). Ouch!
Tenn deserved all that ass-kicking yesterday and more. NE running up the score didn't bother me at all.
Sal Pal said this before last season and got blasted but he was right on point.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...sal&id=3417631Another coach who seems to get a free pass is Jeff Fisher, the coach of the ans.
Fisher, who rode Buddy Ryan's coattails to the NFL, still is riding high on the memory of one indelible image: being one yard short of defeating the high flying St. Louis Rams in Super Bowl XXXIV.
At the start of the 2008 season, Fisher will be the NFL's longest tenured head coach. Why?
If you count 1994, when he finished out the year for Jack Pardee, Fisher is beginning his 15th season as head coach of the Oilers/ ans franchise. Let's say the 1994 season doesn't count (he went 1-5 to finish the year, yet got the permanent gig anyway). Fisher has gone to the postseason in just five of his 13 full seasons as a head coach. Five winning seasons. Four losing seasons. Four seasons of 8-8. And how exactly is that anything but mediocre?
Fisher's won-loss record of 115-99 (.537) barely cracks sea level, and his playoff record is 5-5. Yet, every year he is bathed in media holy water as one of the bright, young coaches in the league. When Bill Parcells retired from the Dallas Cowboys, it was rumored that Dallas owner Jerry Jones would pay any price to get Fisher down in Big D. Again, why?
But strip away the carefully crafted Fisher veneer and you get one mediocre head coach who doesn't deserve the constant doting of the national media.
Fisher grew up in Ryan's 46 defense. Yet, in all his years with the Oilers/ ans, Fisher's teams finished ranked better than 10th in points allowed just three times: 1995, 2000 and last season. Same story on offense. Only two seasons did Fisher's teams finish in the top 10 in points scored: 1999 and 2003.
Let's compare Fisher to another head coach who doesn't get nearly the lavish praise: Dennis Green. As of 2006, Green, too, had 13 seasons as a head coach. His record was 113-94 -- six more wins than Fisher over 13 seasons. Green made the playoffs in eight of those 13 seasons. Yet, Green is unemployed. Fisher is in demand.
While Green's poor showing in the playoffs (4-8) is constantly regurgitated, Fisher's failures in big games are overlooked. So, let's look.
Example 1: ans finished the 2003 regular season 12-4, go to New England in the divisional playoffs. Lose to the Patriots, 17-14.
Example 2: ans finished the 2002 regular season 11-5, lose to the Oakland Raiders in the AFC championship game. Bill Callahan's offense stomps all over the defensive genius -- 41-24 Raiders.
Example 3: ans finished the 2000 regular season 13-3, win the old AFC Central for the first time. Don't forget, that year, Tennessee finished second in the league in fewest points allowed and total yards. Trent Dilfer and Ray Lewis & Co. just came into Nashville and stripped Fisher's team of its manhood: Baltimore, 24-10.
Example 4: ans finish the 1999 regular season 13-3, advance to Super Bowl XXXIV against the Rams. Kurt Warner plays pitch and catch all day. Fisher's defense has no answer, allowing the winning 73-yard touchdown pass from Warner to Isaac Bruce with 1:54 left. Even with Steve McNair's late-game heroics factored in, Fisher's coaching performance should go down as one of the most overrated in Super Bowl history.
By the way, let's not forget something. It was Fisher who demanded the ans draft Adam (Pacman) Jones in the first round over the objections of his scouting staff. Jones, the poster child for NFL bad boy behavior, was traded to the Cowboys for a song.
As for whats going on in Tenn now. Bud Adams has had enough. I believe no matter what, Fisher is out after the season.
His public words:
"If we end up losing every game or don't look better, I'd have to look at that pretty hard, you know what I mean?'' Adams said during a telephone interview Sunday night. "The way it is going, I don't know if we'll win any games, and that is unheard of in the National Football League.
"Right now, it's as bad as I've seen it, and that's a long time. I've never had a team start out like this. We had the best record in the NFL last year. I can't understand it.''..
"Even if I am unhappy, you don't make changes in the middle f the season. You don't know what you might end up with,'' Adams said of the coaching staff. "We'll just have to see what happens the rest of the way. I'll have to make my decision after the season is up. Who knows, we might come back and win 10 games. Then it wouldn't look so bad compared to how we started out. We have to look at the overall picture.
"But right now we're not doing very well, and that worries me.''...
"That is one of our problems, the coaching staff,'' Adams said.
But the owner indicated he wouldn't force Fisher to make changes.
"You can't do that in the season, that is not the way you do it," Adams said. "You have to wait until the season is over. The coaches have to be preparing for every game, and
it takes a lot of effort. You can't just get rid of people.''
As for a potential change at quarterback, Adams said he'd like to see Vince Young play more instead of starter Kerry Collins.
"I have been wanting him to play Vince Young more because Collins has been having his problems out there,'' Adams said. "I just think we need to find out how well (Young) can
do. If you don't play the guy and lose all your games, it is hard for you to see what he can do if he is not playing.
"Vince has won a lot of games for us. But Jeff is the one making those decisions; they are playing for him.''
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...++ ans++play
As for what's happening behind the scenes.....
Word is VY has a bad at ude towards JF because JF doesn't want him. That much is clear. JF explained in a closed door session to local media within the last couple of weeks that he isn't ever playing VY because of VY's at ude and work ethic. The relationship obviously is past any mending point but that was clear last year. Again, a lot of what happen last year was JF looking for a reason to sit VY.
Anyway, now Fisher knows he's screwed. He still doesn't want to play VY, even with the owner publically making it known. Don't obey the owner and he's fired. Obey the owner and VY does well and he's fired anyway for not making the call sooner.
Fisher is gone. Only question right now is if he finishes burning VY's bridge in Tenn or not.
Maybe VY should have a better at ude and work ethic.
it's kind of hard to suck it up when you know you're not wanted and you're getting to play a game when your team is down 52-0 due in a small part to the quarterback play. vince's apathy is understandable. that team is an abortion and i'm sure everyone on it feels like mailing it in right now. sure looked that way on sunday.
What was his excuse last season when they were doing well?
i think that's been do ented more than enough.
Maybe the ans should win a game or two and this wouldn't even have to be discussed. From what I saw on Sunday, VY isn't the only player with a bad at ude. The ans flat out gave up against the Patriots and that reflects upon Fisher. VY is the least of their problems at this point (he's not the one losing games) and Fisher will continue to dig himself into a deeper hole. He showed what an arrogant prick he is and his lack of respect for VY when he put him in at the end of a 59-0 route. For anyone whose ever played sports, that's as good as being spit on by your coach. How could you have a good at ude or want to work hard for a guy like that? Seems as if the rest of the ans are falling in line.
Last edited by TFloss32; 10-20-2009 at 09:06 AM.
Oh mah lawd, is this thread STILL going on? You know, I really do hope VY gets into the game so they can suck just as bad or worse (if that is possible) so everyone will shut up about VY already. Peyton couldn't save this franchise, so I don't know how the you think a headcase with little passing skills is going to do it.
Mike, look at the bigger picture. I don't think anyone has said VY will "save" the ans. Like I stated earlier, VY is the least of their problems. At this point, it looks as if the team has given up on Fisher. By not complying with Bud Adams' wishes to play VY, Fisher is only hurting himself. He's showing his arrogance and inability to swallow his pride, digging himself into a deeper hole and putting his coaching future in serious doubt. Plus, he's hindering the ans' ability to fully evaluate which direction they should go in the near future (trade, draft a QB, cut Vince, etc.). Playing VY can only help Fisher. I don't think he realizes it's a chess match...and he's losing badly.
Just heard this.
It was confirmed Fisher was at the show.A buddy of mine is listening to Tony Dungy speak in Nashville today. He just text'd me to say that Fisher came out to introduce Dungy. He was cracking jokes about being 0-6, then proceded to take off his coat, tie and shirt...and was wearing a peyton manning jersey and said "That's better, now I feel like a winner".
http://www.rocketown.com/rallyforrocketown
If true, he is begging to be fired.
EDIT: Looks like it is 100% true.
http://tweetphoto.com/w0gxacyt
http://twitpic.com/m9cnn
Last edited by 2Cleva; 10-20-2009 at 01:31 PM.
mike mad cause vince continually ed his team. i'd be mad too.
Who knows....I'd be mad too after epic comebacks two years in a row. I think Oklahoma State gets Texas this year though.
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