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That's just you sittin' in the garage wringin' yer hands, hopin' & prayin'.
Your a funny little midget. I'd love to know where your getting your stats from. Last year Artest shot 34% during the regular season, to Ariza's 32%. You call that considerably better? LOL. You left out the fact that in the post-season Ariza absolutely smoked Artest's ass in 3pt shooting, (40-84, 48%) to Artests' (23-83, 31%).
Ron Artest has always been a powder keg ready to explode at a moment's notice. Everyone knows that. One negative word from the coach that doesn't sit well .. could set him off.
If Bynum keeps up this offensive pace that's he's been on, this will only reinforce my POV that the lakers won't need much from Ron-ron other than defense and the occasional 3pt shot.
That's just you sittin' in the garage wringin' yer hands, hopin' & prayin'.
Career: (from basketbsll-reference.com)
Ariza 3pt% .299 Artest 3pt% .342 .
Yes. I call that considerably better.
So, you can take the career averages or you can post the numbers which were for one year and subsequent post season. Let's not forget that Ron was one of the primary scorers on most of his teams and thus commanded the defensive attention. If you take last year alone you are leaving off a lot of data and also fail to understand why Trevors % increased so much last year alone. Could it be playing off Kobe and being ungarded had something to do with that?
.... and you are correct (go figure) ... all the Lakers need from Ron is tough D and an occasional 3 along with an occasonial post up option (something Trevor couldnt do)
What a stupid , new to the NBA?
Artest was the 1st/2nd option on offense last year depending on whether Yao was playing or not. Team's focussed on Artest.
Ariza, on the other hand, was the 5th option on offense and defenses left him wide open to shoot so they could spend time doubling other players...maybe like Kobe or Pau perhaps? Just so you know, wide open shots are much easier to make than contested ones.
Really? What has this "ready to explode" powder keg done and when did he do it?Ron Artest has always been a powder keg ready to explode at a moment's notice. Everyone knows that. One negative word from the coach that doesn't sit well .. could set him off.
Boom!
o Arizas' 48% in the playoffs to 31% for Artest .. is alot to chalk up to simply being less contested. Also shows Ariza steps up his game for the playoffs while Artests' game took a dump.What a stupid , new to the NBA?
Artest was the 1st/2nd option on offense last year depending on whether Yao was playing or not. Team's focussed on Artest.
Ariza, on the other hand, was the 5th option on offense and defenses left him wide open to shoot so they could spend time doubling other players...maybe like Kobe or Pau perhaps? Just so you know, wide open shots are much easier to make than contested ones.
Really? What has this "ready to explode" powder keg done and when did he do it?
What has he done? You dare ask?
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Ron Artest has worked long and hard, but he finally has become the most disturbed NBA player of all time
Posted by Matt on Oct 16, 2009 in NBA • 4 comments
Most thought it would take a lot of work to displace Dennis Rodman as the NBA’s madman. Someone’s done it. Ron Artest is hands down the most mentally disturbed basketball player ever.Rodman pales in comparison. Maybe if we added up all the early 2000’s Jail Blazers, that would amount to the insanity that Artest brings to the table. Let’s take a stroll down memory lane with our buddy Ron, shall we?
In 1999, before his rookie season, Artest applied for a part time job at a Circuit City in Chicago. But the Bulls stopped him. Apparently he wanted the employee discount. Artest: “I thought it would be fun. And I had a friend who worked there.” Later in 1999, he was fined $5,000 and sent home from the league’s rookie orientation program for missing a meeting. Jerry Krause said Artest overslept and had a friend in his room when visitors weren’t allowed.
In 2001, Ron was suspended for one game and fined $7,500 for fighting with Glenn Robinson. Later that year, he broke two of Michael Jordan’s ribs during a pickup game. “I’m not sure what happened,” Artest said, “I was just guarding him. I was just trying to get position because he was posting me up. I don’t even recall him stopping for a brief second. … I read it in the paper and was like, ‘Man, Mike’s ribs got broke. How’d his ribs get broke?’”
In 2002, Artest was traded to the Pacers. Ok, no problems here, right? Wrong. Later in 02, his girlfriend Jennifer Palma, the mother of one of Artest’s sons, accused him of grabbing her around the neck and by the arm during an argument. No charges were filed, but she was given a protective order, which Artest allegedly violated several days later by calling her.
How could 2002 be any worse? Artest, back with Kimsha Hatfield, his girlfriend for eight years and the mother of his two oldest children, called the police claiming that she hit and scratched him. They’re now married. A match made in heaven! You thought that was it for 2002? You were sorely mistaken. He was fined $10,000 for shoving Raja Bell and not leaving the court in a timely manner after his ejection.
2003 wasn’t exactly kind to Ron either. He was suspended three games and fined $35,000 for smashing video equipment after a loss to the Knicks at Madison Square Garden.
He was then suspended one game by Pacers for smashing a framed picture of himself in Conseco Fieldhouse (huh?),
On to 2004. He made his first all-star appearance by changing and mismatching his shoes throughout the game, in the hopes of landing a shoe contract.
Still in 04, he was benched for two games after he asked for time off to promote the release of his upcoming rap album. “When I decided I wanted to leave the game or take a month off, I’m a grown man,” Artest said. “It doesn’t make me crazy to want to do something that I want to do… You can be anything you want to be….I want to be a musician.
In November of 2004, Artest ran into the stands at the Palace of Auburn Hills to attack a fan who threw (precious beer) a cup at him.
Wow…on to 2005 we go! Before the season, Artest said: “I’m going to continue playing hard and out of control, like a wild animal that needs to be caged in.” Then, appearing on the cover of Penthouse, he said in the interview that he wanted to box Ben Wallace on pay per view.
In another interview, Artest suggests the Pacers trade him. “If the trade rumors, if there is any truth, maybe it won’t be a bad thing. They probably could win more games without me. … If I go to the West Coast, I would come back to New York after my contract is up. … I would go to Cleveland. I wouldn’t mind coming off the bench behind LeBron James. There’s a lot of players I wouldn’t mind coming off the bench behind.” Artest also criticized coach Rick Carlisle, who benched him for two games. “I like Coach [Carlisle] as a person, but I don’t like playing for Coach. I like my team, though. … Don’t get it twisted. He’s a very good coach. He knows what he’s doing. I personally don’t like playing for him.”
He was placed on the inactive list, then fined $10,000 for making public statements that he wanted to be traded. He then changed his mind and said everything is OK.
2006 was a modest year for him. His self- led CD hit the stores and he told the New York Post that his New Year’s resolution is to: “Teach math classes in elementary schools throughout the country. And, of course, I want to sell 10 million records.”
He’s almost traded to the Kings for Peja Stojakovic, but the trade falls through because Artest doesn’t want to play in Sacramento. He then accepts the trade to the Kings after talking to the Maloof brothers.
In 2007, dogs owned by Artest spent 77 nights at a pound because of poor care by Artest, costing him $1,942 in boarding and impound fees. Artest is out indefinitely with Kings after a domestic violence arrest. He apologizes and rejoins the team. Artest is charged with four misdemeanors charges: battery, corporal injury to a spouse, false imprisonment, and dissuading a witness from reporting a crime, stemming from the domestic dispute at his home. He pleads not guilty to misdemeanor domestic dispute charges. He’s ordered to stay at least 100 yards away from his wife and children until further notice.
Ron has a quiet few years in 2008 & 2009, but there’s still a few highlights! How could we forget this one? ”I remember when I used to play back home in the neighborhood there were always games like that. I remember one time, one of my friends, he was playing basketball and they were winning the game. It was so compe ive, they broke off a piece of leg from a table and they threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court.” He also asked his Twitter followers what jersey number he should wear for this season. He picked 37 for Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” staying on top of the charts for 37 straight weeks and proceeded to make this rap tribute to MJ.
I rest my case… Ron Artest is unequivocally the most insane basketball player ever. What the was he like as a kid? I’m honestly not sure how he’s still in the NBA. But hey, no worries Lakers fans! You’ll be fine! I’m sure he’ll shape up! On second thought…
The sound of bone spurs exploding within Oden's knees.
More likely the sound of Bynum's ligaments snapping.
maybe because he can put up 17, 5 and 3 while playing elite defense..I rest my case… Ron Artest is unequivocally the most insane basketball player ever. What the was he like as a kid? I’m honestly not sure how he’s still in the NBA
you are such a tool...keep laughing all you want it will be ron and L.A the ones laughing at your sorry ass when the lakers repeat.
Ariza stats were so good due to the amount of open shots...artest will get the same results.
Have you seen the games or are you commenting from boxscores? Ariza's shots were WIDE OPEN. Yes, being contested versus wide-open shots is very different.
So this "powder keg" that's going to blow up the Lakers has done nothing wrong the last two years according to the author and he has to stretch to find some dirt on Ron?What has he done? You dare ask?
Ron has a quiet few years in 2008 & 2009, but there’s still a few highlights! How could we forget this one? ”I remember when I used to play back home in the neighborhood there were always games like that. I remember one time, one of my friends, he was playing basketball and they were winning the game. It was so compe ive, they broke off a piece of leg from a table and they threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court.” He also asked his Twitter followers what jersey number he should wear for this season. He picked 37 for Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” staying on top of the charts for 37 straight weeks and proceeded to make this rap tribute to MJ.
I rest my case… Ron Artest is unequivocally the most insane basketball player ever. What the was he like as a kid? I’m honestly not sure how he’s still in the NBA. But hey, no worries Lakers fans! You’ll be fine! I’m sure he’ll shape up! On second thought…
So "Powder Keg" Ron Ron
1) Told a story about getting stabbed with a table leg
2) Chose 37 as his Jersey number in homage to MJ (singer)
3) Rapped about Michael Jackson
And this is going to blow up the Lakers?
Wow, what a "powder keg ready to explode at any moment". Golf must seem like a contact sport in your world.
I agree, you should rest your case, you don't have one.
Last edited by Allanon; 10-18-2009 at 02:38 PM.
FACT: Ariza upped his 3pt% almost 15% in the playoffs getting the same open looks. Artest's 3pt% fell off the earth last year in the playoffs.
I'm a tool for stating facts like these? Meh.
The only thing this proves is he's due... even past due.. for another meltdown.Have you seen the games or are you commenting from boxscores? Ariza's shots were WIDE OPEN. Yes, being contested versus wide-open shots is very different.
So this "powder keg" that's going to blow up the Lakers has done nothing wrong the last two years according to the author and he has to stretch to find some dirt on Ron?
So "Powder Keg" Ron Ron
1) Told a story about getting stabbed with a table leg
2) Chose 37 as his Jersey number in homage to MJ
3) Rapped about Michael Jackson
And this is going to blow up the Lakers?
Wow, what a "powder keg ready to explode at any moment". Golf must seem like a contact sport in your world.
I agree, you should rest your case, you don't have one.
Keep thinking those positive thoughts Allanon. It's gonna be hilarious as when Ron-ron's frustrations at trying to fit in and not being able to start venting out in crazy antics.
Ah, so now he's due for "another" meltdown.
Look at your list...which one of those incidents you listed was a "meltdown"?
"Ron has never really been involved in a real legitimate anger management program. He needs to begin with a comprehensive assessment of stress, anger, communication and emotional intelligence. The assessment will provide a map of where he is on a wide range of subissues and provide a guide for skill enhancement.
Luckily, all of the approved programs in Los Angeles County will provide this service."
George
getting the same looks?
artest % was bound to be bad when he has somebody on him all the time.
Ariza did get plenty of open looks but he was consistently hitting 3's with a hand in his face during the playoffs.
But it really was just a hot streak. Ariza will drop back down to the low 30s this season. Bank on it.
i think everyone forgets ariza was trash from the 3 during the jazz series. but like everyone its about what have you done for me lately, and in the finals he was smoking hot
No he wasn't.
Bynum vs Clips tonight (ie Kaman, Blake Griffin, D. Jordan)
20 pts, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks.
Sidenote, WTF was up with Shannon Brown? 20 points?
Just got back from clubbin and feeling buzzed, can't sleep yet.
Brown put up some bad shots though. Then got real hot in the 4th quarter with Morrison and Farmar actively set both of them up.
Farmar played really, really well last night.
Sasha is screwed. Brown is going to gobble up all his minutes. He's the 6'3 version of Trevor Ariza. He's proving to be a much better SG than a triangle PG. Farmar and Brown backcourt is fun to watch and they outplayed Baron/Gordon down the stretch last night.
Splendid report, 21. Easily visualized.
I dont know about gobbling up sasha's minutes. Sasha's stroke has been looking fantastic and he's doing a decent job on defense again. I think the minutes will be split up pretty evenly. Also, if Morrison finds his stroke like he did last night, look out... because we're finally going to have some shooters that spread the floor, unlike last season where we relied mostly on our dribble penetration and post play.
The return of Bynum to solid form is encouraging, but he still has a little ways to go. Positive signs though.
Bynum's looking good on offense but needs work on Defense.
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