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    blah blah blah blah Look at me I am yapping just to get attention. I know I am full of . I just say this repe ive crap to get a rise out of people so I can argue with them about bull I don't even believe in. It's fun.
    This is what you are indirectly telling me. Thanks.

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    This is what you are indirectly telling me. Thanks.

    I'm beginning to agree that this is just a troll who says really dumb to get a reaction.

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    Shaq is old as dirt. He was also one of the most dominant players ever. None of the Celtics big 3 can say that. Add on top of that he put up 18 and 8 last year. Add on top of that the Cavs got him for nothing. Add on top of that all that the Cavs needed last season was a big body to throw at Howard. So yes, you're correct in saying he's old as dirt... the problem is saying that I'm contradicting myself, because I never said that he wasn't. The point is, the best team in the league got a player who put up 18 and 8 last year for nothing at all. It's simple.
    But he is 38 years old and here you are getting on your knees for him. What Shaq did in 2000 is moot now. He is no where near that level anymore. Are you trying to tell me that you are not contradicting yourself due to what Shaq did in 2000-2002?

    You were going well with this act but now you are failing dramatically.

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    I'm beginning to agree that this is just a troll who says really dumb to get a reaction.
    That is exactly what he is.

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    Their problem is Mike Brown, it sounds crazy but he's got a lot of similarities to Mike D'antoni. His team loves to blow all the crappy teams out, and lose to all the other contenders, and being the idiot he is, he convinces himself that that's not a problem. He plays the starters 40 MPG during the regular season to inflate their record and doesn't develop the bench, so he's up 's creek without a paddle when someone in his 6-7 man rotation is having a bad series. He also is horrible at making any adjustments over the course of a series. Delonte West was getting torched by Turk in game 1-5, so of course he goes with the same matchup for a must win game.
    I think it's time to take a stroll down memory lane. Throughout the LeBron James era Cavalier fans have always wondered "Why aren't we called elite when we took Boston to 7 and gave them the hardest series they had all playoffs?" or "Why aren't we called elite when we when the ECF without HCA against the Detroit Pistons?"

    The common answer from most analysts was that Cleveland gave up too many easy wins against bad opponents. Now we tick over to last season and the Cavs are blowing out every team that wasn't elite and even then handed out some floggings to the Celtics, Nuggets, Mavs, Spurs. The Cavaliers had finally found that consistency and were good enough to blow out the ty teams and be a true contender.

    Mike Brown didn't leave the starters in there for 40mpg, in fact LeBron played the least amount of MPG ever, even lower than his rookie season at 37.7 (his rookie season was 39.5 by the way). Mo, Z, Big Ben all had their minutes go down. Delonte and AV had their minutes go up slightly but no where this so called 40minutes you claim.

    I know Mike Brown should have played Boobie Gibson major minutes whilst he has battled with an injury all season and lets match him up with Pietrus, or for brains Sasha Pavlovic or perhaps the defensive dynamo Wally Szczerbiak. You couldn't have meant the rookie with a back injury JJ Hickson?

    The only I will give you is that Mike Brown is extremely stubborn when it comes to his defensive adjustments. From inside sources on Cavaliers boards there was some tension between the assistants and Brown as to making the Magic match up with us instead of Brown playing the waiting game. The Cavaliers didn't have the personnal to match-up with the Magic on the wings like they do now. Small ball with that offense in the 4th Q in game 5 with LJ at the 4 was what I thought would work except giving Pavs or Wally major minutes as the SF would be its folly. Now the Cavaliers can play Moon there who I think will surprise alot of people this season.

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    I want to agree with you, but Cleveland is just not built for the playoffs. Everything runs through James. Shaq is a s of himself, and they don't run enough. James made a comment to Mo when the Lakers went into Cleveland last year and defeated them. "We cant beat them if we don't have Z to draw their big men out of the lane." Ok, now Z is on the bench and probably on the trrading block as well. Now you have the biggest, slowest center in the league clogging the lane, so they are still stuck with the same problem they had last year.
    Except that the Cavaliers have added two solid wings in Moon and Parker, another year of development for LeBron, people like Gibson and JJ getting healthy.

    Shaq is replacing the juggernaut Ben Wallace. The spacing issue is overblown. This is what coaches would have been figuring out all off-season. It's not the perfect set-up but it will get the job done. Lets have a big man rotate off Shaq and leave him wide open or AV wide open on a cut, he has got the best reverse lay-up in the NBA, no joke.

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    I think it's time to take a stroll down memory lane. Throughout the LeBron James era Cavalier fans have always wondered "Why aren't we called elite when we took Boston to 7 and gave them the hardest series they had all playoffs?" or "Why aren't we called elite when we when the ECF without HCA against the Detroit Pistons?"

    The common answer from most analysts was that Cleveland gave up too many easy wins against bad opponents. Now we tick over to last season and the Cavs are blowing out every team that wasn't elite and even then handed out some floggings to the Celtics, Nuggets, Mavs, Spurs. The Cavaliers had finally found that consistency and were good enough to blow out the ty teams and be a true contender.

    Mike Brown didn't leave the starters in there for 40mpg, in fact LeBron played the least amount of MPG ever, even lower than his rookie season at 37.7 (his rookie season was 39.5 by the way). Mo, Z, Big Ben all had their minutes go down. Delonte and AV had their minutes go up slightly but no where this so called 40minutes you claim.

    I know Mike Brown should have played Boobie Gibson major minutes whilst he has battled with an injury all season and lets match him up with Pietrus, or for brains Sasha Pavlovic or perhaps the defensive dynamo Wally Szczerbiak. You couldn't have meant the rookie with a back injury JJ Hickson?

    The only I will give you is that Mike Brown is extremely stubborn when it comes to his defensive adjustments. From inside sources on Cavaliers boards there was some tension between the assistants and Brown as to making the Magic match up with us instead of Brown playing the waiting game. The Cavaliers didn't have the personnal to match-up with the Magic on the wings like they do now. Small ball with that offense in the 4th Q in game 5 with LJ at the 4 was what I thought would work except giving Pavs or Wally major minutes as the SF would be its folly. Now the Cavaliers can play Moon there who I think will surprise alot of people this season.

    I didn't literally mean 40 MPG, but he did not use his bench very much, you can't deny that.

    And if the problem is the bench sucked and he only had 6-7 players worth using, that's something he should have addressed at the trade deadline, and should get blame for pretending lack of depth wasn't a problem.

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    The KING already schooled you enough on this subject, but I'll just add on to what he said and make you look like even more of a moron.

    Hedo Turkoglu:

    Game 1: 4-11FG(.36%)
    Game 2: 9-17(.52%)
    Game 3: 1-11(.09%)
    Game 4: 5-13(.38%)

    Game 5: 10-18(.55%)

    What are his assist numbers? He was doing a lot of his work dishing it off o Dwight cause West was screened off him so easily and Dwight's guy had to help.

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    The Sheed acquistion is being way overrated just because he landed with the C's

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    What do his assist numbers matter? You said he was lighting West up. That means, obviously, that he was scoring on him. I've never heard anyone drop an assist off to a teammate for a dunk and say "you can't guard me". Stop trying to hide the fact that you don't know about the NBA, like most Suns fans. Go grab your skateboard and do what you do best.



    You're either a really funny troll, or a stupid San Antonio Mexican. I can't tell.

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    You're either a really funny troll, or a stupid San Antonio Mexican. I can't tell.
    seeings as though you have been owned twice, the stupid comment would be a more likely reference for yourself!

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    The Sheed acquistion is being way overrated just because he landed with the C's
    in ay. Cavs can deal with his lazy ass quite easily.

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    DUNCAN has been on the rag all weekend.

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    in ay. Cavs can deal with his lazy ass quite easily.
    I'll hold you to that boast, thank you.

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    I bet that if they have more points than their opponents that they'll win it all.

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    you need a in superduperstar to win in this league. Kobe last year, KG year before, Duncan*4... Shaq*3... Dirk*1.. Hakeem*2 MJ *6


    Can a 34 YO KG (come playoffs) who showed dip in production last year and is coming off a knee injury lead a team to a championship? Highly doubt it

    Pierce? Not really a superstar, and he's past his prime as well.

    To me the Celtics as currently constructed are similar to those Suns/Pistons/Kings teams from the standpoint that while a nice collection of talent, they lack the guy who has "it"...although KG used to have it.

    Can they win the East? Sure... although against the Cavs/Magic they have the disadvantage of NOT having the best player on the court at all times. Even if they do, the Lakers or Mavs will hand their ass to them in the Finals.

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    tee, hee.

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    In the improbable event that anyone other than the Lakers makes it out of the West, it will be the Mavs rather than any other team.

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    4-1 gots

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    I'd go 40% Boston, 30% Cleveland, 30% Orlando.

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    I'll stand by the 40/30/30 Boston advantage in the east, and 50/50 with the Lakers if we come out of the west. Boston has one of the most stacked rosters in the history of the league, you cant deny they are beastly.

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    If Garnett does not return to full health, this team has a 0% chance of winning. Pierce and Allen better remain the same and Rondo has to improve if they want to get out of the East alive.

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    The sixers are looking more and more like they will be my darkhorse pick in the east.

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    The Sheed acquistion is being way overrated just because he landed with the C's
    Agreed.

    Even though... KG is the real glue in Boston so they will be especially good because of him and not Sheed.

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    The sixers are looking more and more like they will be my darkhorse pick in the east.
    How? By subtracting Andre Miller and adding Jrue Holiday?

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